Is VR porn the end of women Sup Forums?
I just had my first experience, and while it wasn't as good as real sex, the niches and fetishes one can experience make it better. I have no doubt in a decade or less VR + sex toy will be better than any woman alive.
Since men are only with women for sex, will MGTOW be the norm?
How will women adapt to this? I've already seen groups trying to ban it
>Since men are only with women for sex
There is this woman that is fucking pro in table tennis which I regularly play with.
is there vr porn games and shit already?
In the west?
I thought most of that was in asia only
I meant with as in relationship
BadoinkVR, NaughtyAmerica, Pornhub, and VirtualRealPorn already have tons of VR porn, a lot of which is free
There are already women's groups against VR porn and AVR sex dolls.
They can jack hammer their disgusting cunts with dildos attached to power saws but god forbid there exists a decent sex toy for men.
Women hate this mainly because it lowers their SMV. If all the NEETS fuck their animoo waifu sex dolls all day long and are actually content with that, then women are forced to fight over the chads and remaining alpha men.
Sooner or later we'll invent artificial wombs and even the VR and AVR sex doll fucking neets will have children without ever touching a real women.
Women can't stand the idea of this because they will finally lose the only thing that has enabled them to be parasitic leeches since the dawn of time. Their vagina...
SMV
I have found it interesting how when a man has a sex toy he's a werd, disgusting, creepy beta and when a woman has a dildo or vibrator she's cute and exploring her sexuality.
What is it with women banning literally every thing that lets a man release his sexual buildup? They've already made prostitutes illegal and tried to ban porn. The thing they did win is shaming people who get a prostitute or look at porn though
>Women sticking object in pussy sexy, men doing it gross
>Its womens fault
No, not women did this but little nu male pussies who adapted to those ugly bitches who never got a chad and were pissy because they only were cercled by freaks and geeks. The funny thing is that the nu-male gen reproduced those sour bitches narratives because they thought they so could get into their ugly old women panties.
>the niches and fetishes
but it's only normie porn so far. it's too expensive to make for anything other than mainstream and it will remain that way for a long time. there aren't even foot fetish vr videos
I tried the Avant Glyph yesterday.
It was shocking how real it looks.
The only disorienting part is coming back to reality.
what vr did you buy? how much did it cost?
yup
Yeah but now that it's coming out how many of those numales are gonna jump ship and swear off winen for good?
haven't tried the avant glyph but i've heard good things.
That's my problem as well. It's like you're actually there, especially with a good headset, so when you take them off it's a bit dazing
Quite possibly. I mean if there's an option that doesn't drain you financially,makes you content sexually and is close to the real thing it will be the end of women. As VR progresses it's only going to get better and better for the user's.
There's probably a man who is better than her.
only for genetic dead ends
Lets be realistic here. A very, very tiny percentage of men will ditch 3DPD for VR2D. But even if, in the most outlandish scenario, 75% of men gets all their sexual urges quenched by VR2D, women would simply turn to the remaining Chads, who would without a second's doubt provide their dicks with no complaints.
There will be no competition among females, just a cultural shift toward polygamy. You will go extinct and Chad will impregnate his harem of grills like in the olden days. You will still be forced to pay taxes and provide for the women and the kids Chad sired, either way. You're only cucking yourself.
If only VR headsets weren't fucking $600.
Realdoll with an augmented reality voice/expression interface would be God tier.
Really I'm talking about the generation below us. Kids who are 10-13 right now who will go through puberty with VR porn.
It takes away the only thing women have that men want.
you can get cheap VR headset for your smartphone that is pretty descent VR IMO. I tried my brother's EVO VR which was like $15 and it was unexpectedly good.
No.
If you're desperate for sex, you can just hire an escort, yet most men won't.
Because they want something more. VR won't change it, and neither do sexbots. They're just another tools for masturbation.
That's your inner beta talking.
What do women give you that your friends can't other than sex? Absolutely nothing
Plus male camaraderie is infinitely better than a single female who says nothing interesting
>implying women are not tools for masturbation
That's... surprisingly insightful
You really have a lot of time to think about things in Finland huh
We only have the HTC Vive on Swedish markets, and it's $1150. VR will be stillborn if shit doesn't change soon.
Doesn't matter if lil' Billy tugs it to VR r34 after school. He will still pop boners for Stacy in class the next day and buy her shit to try to get in her pants. The only scenario where women are truly obsolete is when we have perfect waifubots, indistinguishable from the real deal with artificial pheromones and the whole package. Wombs optional. I don't think we'll be seeing that for quite a while, if ever, such as things are going.
If it gets popular it will only lower the western birthrate even more. Note that the only people who could afford this shit are the intelligent upper classes, the lower classes will still have sex and still have kids. Also note that the groups that have more available women will not turn to VR porn. The guy who was getting laid in high school won't do it and the black dude who had sex at 13 in the ghetto won't be using it.
My opinion is that it won't be the end of women but it'll just lower our cultural standards even more. Men will try less to get women if they aren't naturally good at it and women will spend less time improving themselves since men don't want to deal with them.
Western women are trash. Most have failed in their primary purpose of birthing and raising healthy white children.
Leave them to get raped by niggers while I enjoy my VR harem of waifus.
>and women will spend less time improving themselves since men don't want to deal with them
Won't it have the opposite effect? Women will spend more time trying to improve themselves since a chunk of the population is wanking it to VR and the other half of the population will have a wider range of women to choose from?
VR makes me nauseated though, senpai :/
Women will shut this shit down quickly. Trudeau already talking about banning Oculus in Canada
Not really.
You get horny, tryout sexbots / VR, then feel empty inside.
It's just like fucking an escort. Seems like a good idea when your horny AF, but after you've cum, you realize you've just wasted a shit ton of cash on what is essentially a bad fap.
Having sex with a girl you love is simply what we crave because it's engraved in our genemass.
It might nerf women a bit in terms of the casual sex stage.
Just because you're shit at table tennis, doesn't mean she's a pro.
Sucks to be you. I'll be with my VR waifu within 10 years while you struggle to not vomit.
Why would it be the end of women?
I have a wife and jerk off and have sex. It isn't one or the other.
Women
Good for sex and table tennis
Sexbots will be orders of magnitude cheaper than quality escorts.
Sexbots, in time, will be orders of magnitude more attractive than women by any and all standards.
Tay has shown that a chatbot can already converse better than most women, this gap is only going to widen exponentially. You can't teach a woman respect, love, fidelity, honor, shame, and self respect, but you can teach a robot.
Women will only be useful for procreation, although I'm certain synthesizing human eggs are not physically impossible.
Because when VR porn becomes as good as actual sex there is no need for women anymore.
You still masturbate because it doesn't feel as good as sex. If every time you masturbated it felt like real sex, you wouldn't do both.
It's all the upsides of busting a nut inside a real woman without the long list of downsides
>$600
stop being a NEET fag
required reading
Nah man, the feeling of conquest just wouldn't be there, no matter how close the physical feeling is to real sex it could never replace it for me.
"Chad" or not, reproduction is on the decline. Those looking to reproduce will continue to do so, possibly until the advent of artificial wombs.
I think you overestimate "Chad"s willingness to have sex, let alone impregnate, the entire female population. He has standards, he is and will continue to reject lower value women whose potential mates have turned to 2D
if you agree with my earlier statement that the men not affected are chads and low-iq low class individuals then I'm assuming that it doesn't take much to impress those types of people.
Putting on makeup isn't very hard. Chad and Tyrone won't care if your educated, have skills, personality etc they just want you to be fuckable.
VR and video games are degenerate. Kill yourself.
Every kind of escapism is degenerate around here senpai, so everyone is a degenerate.
>feeling of conquest
seruously, Nigel? Fucking a whore hardly makes you a Caesar
>You still masturbate because it doesn't feel as good as sex. If every time you masturbated it felt like real sex, you wouldn't do both.
There is more to sex than strict physical sensations.
>Because when VR porn becomes as good as actual sex there is no need for women anymore.
Let's say my favourite food is steak. I'm not going to eschew all other foods because steak is the best.
But I'm guessing you haven't had much sex if you equate it with masturbation... the novelty, excitement, nervousness, passion, etc. is something that jerking off with VR gear can't actually recreate.
Women aren't going to lower their standards. Women always go after the top 10-20% of men.
When your average man has turned to fembots, the remaining women aren't going to go after ugly fat poor cunts, they're going to go after the most wealthy and most attractive, thus they'll have to adapt and improve their own standards
He said feeling of conquest, he didn't say he was the first person to set foot on moon pussy.
There can be a feeling of conquest when having sex, it's common. It's also an emphasized theme in porn these days.
When a girl deepthroats you and gags, you have a good rhythm going balls deep it, you get her off several times, etc., it makes you feel like a champ.
>But I'm guessing you haven't had much sex if you equate it with masturbation
I didn't equate it, you did. You masturbate because you get horny, and can't have actual sex. Masturbation pales in comparison to actual sex. Which was my point. When VR + sex bot becomes as good as actual sex, actual sex won't have as much value anymore
>Novelty, excitement, nervousness, passion
That sounds like something a virgin says. Who the fuck gets nervous in sex besides a virgin
The only time I've ever felt any of those things was passion with a long term gf
>That sounds like something a virgin says. Who the fuck gets nervous in sex besides a virgin
>The only time I've ever felt any of those things was passion with a long term gf
Sounds like you've only been with one long-term gf if you haven't felt these emotions before.
>trying to explain this stuff to a pussy slave
Waste of time fampai.
Nice
Maybe it's because every girl I've fucked was a massive slut but I wouldn't say any of those things have ever given me a feeling of "conquest"
No I'm serious. The only people I can think would get nervous would be 16 year olds who think they're doing something so naughty
*Fucking a pro
FTFY
Nervous as in feeling excitable and on edge. If you haven't felt this way with a new girl you probably have low T or are a closet fag.
>Is VR porn the end of women Sup Forums?
No. VR porn marks the end of men and the rise of the matriarchy. Enjoy your soulless virtual machines.
Orgasms are easily reproducible, this is literally one of the lowest hanging fruits. So is a gag reflex and throat (and throat is the hardest of the 3 to recreate).
I would have more passion and excitement with an AI that has an actual personality and character far greater than what any contemporary woman is capable of.
Creating standards for the sexbot to refute your advances with is absurdly trivial, if desired.
This is a decent post but implies a false dilemma. You can go to movies with your sexbot, you can give it a name, it can do anything a woman can and more. If anything is required material, go watch the movie Her.
I don't even have anything against women personally. I've been in many casual relationships and they're not all bad, but comparing them to what modern technology is capable of is completely facile.
>having all of these emotions when fucking one a one night stand
That's your problem. That's something a woman does.
Why would you feel anything when fucking unless it's your wife or something?
You should feel absolutely no emotions to a slut on a one night stand, that's why betas get cucked
Honestly its just going to expand the problems we see now, neets will neet even more, and women will only go for Top teir men, like the top 1%.
So Chad, who is rich, funny, and good looking will be able to fuck anyone he wants, while the rest of us will have robots.
Also, their is a deeper chakra connection that happens when you fuck a women that you don't get with a robot, so it won't be the same.
>Also, their is a deeper chakra connection that happens when you fuck a women that you don't get with a robot, so it won't be the same.
>when a woman has a dildo or vibrator she's cute and exploring her sexuality.
I dunno. When I hear something like that I assume she's a whore with a gaping vag.
>That tattoo
Since you sound like a spiritualfag what separates a robot from a person if they're identical in every way
THE AGE OF VR WAIFUS HAS BEGUN
Why are you assuming I'm only talking about a one night stand? I'm talking about the initial phase of a relationship.
>Why would you feel anything when fucking unless it's your wife or something?
Because I am a human being.
I really don't think you've been in a relationship with a woman before, it's sounding more and more clear by your meme-tier responses. It's like talking to an autistic person who simply cannot empathize with something you are talking about because they can't experience it.
That pic is autism
>So Chad, who is rich, funny, and good looking will be able to fuck anyone he wants, while the rest of us will have robots.
Sounds like win-win to me.
Sounds like your both virgins.
There is a connection you get with a women when you are both really into each other, it transcends any possible jackoff technique you could imagine. And yes I have fucked a "robot" type thing. Its just not the same, not bad, but not the real thing.
Even if you don't believe in spiritual stuff, science has proven the human body gives off a distinct energy pattern, unique to each individual.
There is a reason the ancients called men and women two halfs of a whole.
the future sure looks bright lads.
Women will outlaw anything that threatens them, and they'll usually fail. They used to be the leaders of porn bans but since ultimately men hold the power, they lost, VR, and eventually sexbots will be the same.
They'll try to socially shame VR sex users instead to keep you in their claws, but since we're all impervious to social scathing by now by relishing in it for so long it will have no effect, and other men will follow secretly enjoying it. However it's likely you'll get loli vr porn and doll bans.
No I'm just being a realist and you're being an idealistic cuck who believes a relationship between a man and woman is a holy sacrament from God.
When I fuck my wife, I'm fucking her because I'm horny and need to bust a nut, there is nothing else to it. I please her but only because I get pleasure from it. There is no love in sex.
Love is self sacrifice, not a mutual get each other off session.
You still haven't addressed my point though. When vr sex becomes as good as actual sex, the value of actual sex diminishes. It's not rocket science m80
this goes for you too
>banning Oculus
>not Vive
>not Samsung VR
Trudeau's losing his touch leafbro
And honestly the connection with a bio cunt is not worth the amount of shit they make you put up with these days.
You basically have to work 40-60 hours a week, then come home and do another 20-30 hours a week with the women.
That leaves 0 time for vidya, or fighting the Jew.
Although the robot thing is a Jewish trick, I think it will back fire and just make men have free time for fighting the degeneracy.
I know that is what I do with my free time now that some bio cunt is not nagging me 24/7 365.
Anyone have the study that checked out men and women's standards for physically attractiveness and it showed women were much more picky?
...
I don't have it, but it was essentially men will go after women 4/10+ and women will only go after men who are 8/10+
You sound like a woman.
Yeah sex is awesome when it's with a gf you've been with for years but once you realize that even she eventually becomes insufferable by falling in the feminist trap, you're back to being bitter. And casual sex is shit, you go in, orgasm and get out while dealing with a bitch.
You also sound like you've never found something so damn good that even though you're fapping it feels fucking amazing.
And if we're talking stricly about sex here, then how many times did a woman ever got you to keep going after you came? Those are rare af because said woman needs to work hard and look amazing to keep your dick hard after you're done; but those cases are not so rare on porn or hentai or what have you.
>No I'm just being a realist and you're being an idealistic cuck who believes a relationship between a man and woman is a holy sacrament from God.
You are the one who said, "how can you feel things thing if its not your wife".
It's called being an animal with normal emotions. Having sex with someone who excites you and you are infatuated with invariably stirs a mixture of feelings.
>When I fuck my wife, I'm fucking her because I'm horny and need to bust a nut, there is nothing else to it. I please her but only because I get pleasure from it. There is no love in sex.
I hypothesize you are either (1) a virgin; (2) someone who has only been in one relationship that went on longer than it should; or, if you are married, (3) all excitement is gone in your marriage and your boring approach to sex has turned your wife off and you now look at it with disdain instead of what it should be, a great experience that feels amazing mentally and physically and is a critical component of a healthy relationship.
I doubt it, sure VR can't replace women in it's current form. But when it matures, it will be better than even the hottest qt could ever be. Why would Chad even want to fuck some 8 when his 10s can't even compare to VR. The hottest women will essentially be for breeding only, the rest, well they can have some VR dick and get a job.
all I have is
>a leaf
>They used to be the leaders of porn bans but since ultimately (((men))) hold the power, they lost
ftfy
Porn entering the mainstream in the West was literally Jews deciding they wanted a new market to play with, and manipulating the legal system, which they control via threats of career ending allegations of anti-semitism, to massage it past long-standing anti-obscenity laws.
This.
Porn will not in our lifetimes come close to being in love with a person and having them around.
It's a totally different thing
The best thing is to combine gf with VR than you can fuck her but literally fuck someone else.
>fighting degeneracy by engaging in it
No
They will stop being ""independent"" after their attempt to get it banned fails
They will realize if a man would rather choose a machine than you, you have a lot to work on
The ideal 1950s house wife may return, but only after these are as common in houses as dildos
Listen I think you need help. You're part of the problem, you're the reason women are insufferable these days.
You are acting as if sex is the absolute greatest thing in the universe that only women can give us.
You're the reason why the "pussypass" is a thing. Because you will do absolutely anything for a woman if it means her spreading her legs.
These feelings you're having isn't being a normal animal. Animals fuck because of their instinct when they get erect, just like us.
You can love your wife / gf, but never act like sex is the basis of that love. The moment you start doing that, she has a grip on you, but you're too bluepilled to see that
As soon as it becomes a legitimate threat, feminists will ban it along with sex bots because it devalues pussy. They won't come out and say it, they'll find some loli rape game or lolibot and use it to push a total ban.
>How will women adapt to this?
who cares? they're going to be phased out as soon as artificial wombs are a widely available thing. their only use has always been for breeding.
and porn still isn't banned because?
This could actually be a good thing. Sexbots and VR would force women to try a lot harder and might help destroy a lot of this body acceptance nonsense. Even the betas won't chase the ugly fatties anymore if they can get a decent, safer VR sex experience for cheaper.
>science has proven that the human body gives off a distinct energy patter, unique to each individual
That's what I see happening.
I'm tired of seeing descent looking guys with ugly as fuck ham beasts
We can always get stuff from Japan since they already told women to fuck off on the subject of lolis.
They tried to ban porn before, but then it fell apart once they realized they can't easily ban just a few types of porn. Women only really hate the more traditional vanilla porn. But you can't ban that while still allowing femdom, lesbian, gay and other more "empowering" types.
Not an adequate replacement.
Bitter virgin detected.
I'm 30, married, have a health sex life, and a young white son. I'm doing my part, I'm not disconnecting from reality because I spent too much time reading SJW posts and think this is what 50% of the population thinks.
The fact that feelings + sex = slavery to you tells me that your perceptions are a direct result of spending too much time online obsessing over the vocal minority. Perhaps you should unplug from this hugbox echo chamber and devise experience-based opinions in life.
I mean here you are arguing about the merits of virtual sex over women. You literally have zero biological instinct if this is actually a serious thought to entertain.
You are the reason our race is declining. Don't blame it on women - you could improve yourself and spend your time looking for that one diamond in the rough and start reproducing. Instead you spend it online complaining.
Pathetic. You might as well off yourself and let a fertile Muslim family of 8 take your place.
My waifu is basically the same thing.
kek there's been porn in America since the fucking 1700's and porn movies since pictures started moving and Tijuana bibles and blah blah blah.
>"guyzzz womenz deserve everything, don't abandon spoiling them and waiting on them hand and foot for other things" the post
so glad your kind is dying out