Why are gun owners usually so right wing and usually either nazis or ancaps or some other cringey fringe faction?
I feel alienated as someone who likes guns but is leftist on most things, and I bet the rudeness and hostility felt from average gun owners being hostile nazis and belligerent ancaps and such is why the west is so anti-gun these days, and not anything having to do with guns themselves.
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Fuck you nigger lover, you don't deserve guns
>leftist twat
>leaf
Makes sense. Shit trickles down.
I haven't read a greater horseshit today.
Be a good leftist and give your firearms to the government so they get destroyed. Also don't forget to suck trudeau off.
Fuck you Canada, you huge pile of shit. I hope that entire failure of a faggot-country falls apart with no survivors.
Did you really just say that decades of promoting gun control by leftist faggots like you is to blame because some gun owner was rude? This has to be bait.
Sage.
>niggers
>wetback narcos
>right wing
kys shill
>Be a good leftist and give your firearms to the government so they get destroyed.
leftist =/= neo-liberal
shitlibs can fuck right off
Faggots like you don't deserve guns. I hope shtf so people kill you and take your guns.
leftist = anti gun
You don't even know about the ideologies you were brainwashed to believe in.
Its because leftists are actively hostile to us. What's worse is they don't even understand what they're hostile to.
kek
do this one
Because there is no space for gun owners in any mainstream political discussion. The NRA is a manufacturer's organization primarily, and Republicans are fair weather friends to gun owners at the end of the day.
>gun owners right wing
Because if you're on the left, something you learn early is "don't disagree with the left".
Plenty of left-wingers are gun owners but you don't tell your Democrat friends that you own a gun, just like you don't tell them you eat meat.
Left-wingers eat their own and they will bury you if you step off the line.
>Netherlands
>being that much of a retarded faggot again
Oh and for the crap your disgusting government brought upon us firearm owners in Europe during it's joke of a EU-presidency, I hope for all of your larger cities to burn to the ground and get flooded with blood.
Imagine you are raised with guns in the home.
Imagine you and your Father spend a lot of time shooting together when you're young. At first it's air rifles, then .22's, then centerfire rifles
Imagine your Dad gives you a present on your 12th birthday - a stripped AR15 lower receiver (the legal weapon in disassembled form in the US) and you spend that whole summer afterwards mowing lawns and doing misc work around your whole neighborhood to build the parts into a rifle.
Imagine you and your Dad build that rifle together once you've saved the money and bought all the parts.
Imagine that rifle is banned in that configuration just months later because people are stupid (1994 AWB)
Imagine your confusion, knowing full well that bayonet lugs, collapsing stocks, and threaded muzzles have nothing to do with a rifle's lethality. Yet the lawmakers of your country seem to think that will 'help' somehow.
Imagine spending the rest of your life trying to rationally, calmly, and kindly explain how flawed this premise is, and try to honestly educate people so they can better understand how ineffective and pointless it is to regulate features and appearances.
Imagine being met with vicious hostility from well over half of the people you ever speak to, simply because you're defending the right to own guns - or more specifically, that you don't agree blindly with banning any and all guns ever.
Imagine being told to your face that you should be castrated and murdered because you like firearms (happened to me in a college class - no consequences came to that student.. imagine if I'd said the same thing to her on account of literally any subject)
Imagine realizing that no matter how kind, or nice, or reasonable you try to be, you will never see that good faith returned in a discussion on the topic of guns with someone who is ignorant of how guns work but wants them banned.
(cont)
Imagine that being the vanguard of an extreme-left push that basically blames white males for literally fucking everything that's ever been wrong, and the media, social norms, etc. Mercilessly insult, marginalize, and harass the idea of a white male that knows anything about what he's doing.
In commercials, if you need a 'dunce' character it's a white male. Anything else is racist or sexist
In movies, more and more villains, antagonists, and 'bad guys' are white males - almost exclusively. Anything else is racist or sexist somehow.
Imagine being so fucking exhausted by it all, and how incredibly fucking hypocritical it is for people preaching 'equality' and 'fairness' to openly marginalize anyone based on skin color or gender - and who openly call for and threaten physical violence you and those who agree with you on gun rights - to absolutely no consequence for them. Knowing full well that if you ever said that someone who disagreed with you deserved to die for any reason, you're immediately branded an intolerant racist and you should be fucking murdered.
Imagine being so fucking sick of that, that you simply don't care to be nice, or reasonable, or approach those topics in good faith - because you KNOW they won't ever be reasonable with you.
Once that 'fuck them' threshold is reached, it's pretty goddamn easy to just let it go.
I'm white, I like guns, I'm male and I generally prefer the company of women (but not exclusively) so they'll just brand me a racist cis gendered evil gun loving republican anyway.
So fuck them. Why should I be obligated to show kindness and reason when all I get for having my views and beliefs is open hostility?
Most firearm owners aren't vocal about it. Nobody I work with knows I own firearms.
In regards to left leaning gun owners, there aren't many. That's the case because the people who "care about guns" don't want their rights taken away. The people that actively try to ban firearms? The left.
No matter what political group is in power, I'm going to keep my arms.
>leftist = anti gun
counterpoint: no
you can be in favor of social programs and relying on government instead of corporate interests and still like firearms and think they're okay to own
> no space for gun owners in any mainstream political discussion
probably because you are shrill meme-spouting harpies
I disagree with SJWs in person all the time when I happen to meet them in bars or whatever
>t-they eat their own
you seem really brittle. are all americans so sensitive?
>probably because you are shrill meme-spouting harpies
Our inalienable, god given rights to self defense are no meme, leaf. This is why you're a Canadian.
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48% of american own guns, there are between 400-500m guns in the us, 200m have been sold under obama alone
sup
That is another thing why I dispise you leftists that much. You bend your world together on the basis of how you like it.
Tell me then, why are ALL left wing parties around the globe antigun, antagonize and criminalize legal firearm ownership and scream for gunbans and "common sense gun control"?
You are basically sawing the branch which you are sitting on.
>loves guns
>is leftist (who want to disarm all civilians)
Pcik one.
Be lefty, or be a gun nut.
You can't be both.
>s-shall
>Shall ;_____;
tell that to cali and ny
Pretty tasty cock desu
Examples like that are good reasons why it is important to fight, and not give them an inch. "Common sense gun laws" are just grabs in slow motion.
And tell me leaf, when was the last time you ever heard of a gang member in either of those states having trouble finding a firearm? Or in the gun-free city of Chicago?
>you can be in favor of social programs and relying on government instead of corporate interests and still like firearms and think they're okay to own
Not in the US you cant. We have 2 parties, and both have made it very clear about what they intend to do with guns.
Republicans will defend them. Democrats wish to ban them in almost totality
If you enjoy having the right to bare arms, you can not vote for a party that tells you, you are the problem in our society.
Remember Obama's "Bitter Clinger" comment? That sums up the hostility the left has for guns in America
Gun designed by Jews but since they don't have the strength to wield it, it's usually Mexican drug dealers who watch to much movies and obese Americans who are used to carrying excess weight.
>Tell me then, why are ALL left wing parties around the globe antigun,
you're wrong and they're not
>is leftist (who want to disarm all civilians)
#notallleftists
come for my medicare and i'll blast you
>it is important to fight
then why are americans not doing it in favor of sitting around collecting nazi paraphernalia and butchering AR15s to be "compliant"?
> when was the last time you ever heard of a gang member in either of those states having trouble finding a firearm?
what does this have to do with literally anything? are you gathering that i'm anti-gun? there it goes again with the belligerence and memes, no wonder your country wants to disarm you so bad. there's probably a congressman peeing in your herb garden right now
>liberals aren't leftists
>names two most leftist states that have strictest gun laws
must be hard being this retarded
sage
>obsessed with painting a rifle in turquoise and babyshit yellow
....it actually nailed me. Holy shit.
I'm waiting for you to put it in your mouth
being a hardline communist is not considered being liberal, since on the political spectrum those two are separated
not all left-leaning or outright left-wing people are the same, who knew
canada's gun laws are literally looser and more understandable than both cali and ny's, and we don't have dumb shit like "SBR laws" up here
you don't even have to register long guns at all ever
You ask why gun owners gravitate to non-traditional political ideologies. I responded that its because it is difficult to find a mainstream political party that will represent the interests of gun owners. What any of this has to do with Nazi paraphernalia or some hackjob in Cali messing with his AR I don't know.
I brought up the gang member to show how in a country like this, any attempt at regulation is ultimately useless and unenforceable if one were motivated enough. Consider it.
we do. daily. for some reason states right is not associated with slavery when a state wants to shit on gunowners
>why leftist?
>medicare, that's why
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Your gun laws bear any sense of reason and a shitton of firearms are restricted or banned.
basically this, you don't have to be a shitlib SJW to be a socialist or full-blown commie
if anything, the LIEBERALZ you know are more akin to crypto-fascists who want limited government control over anything ever. note how they always push for things like universities and private institutions to provide their Le Safe Spaces and and hand out their gibmedats and prosecute their bullshit rape claims rather than going to municipal police.
>it is difficult to find a mainstream political party that will represent the interests of gun owners.
I posit that this is the case because it would be political suicide to appeal to groups as paranoid and belligerent as average gun owners
even now, in this very thread, I have not said ANYTHING negative about firearms or ownership thereof, only about the onwers themselves, and you're talking to me like I'm anti-gun and want to """""""regulate""""""""" (read: ban) everything scarier than an airsoft pistol.
Fuck you OP, go be a LEAF somewhere else!
>Your gun laws bear any sense of reason
yes, they do, they are literally readable
>and a shitton of firearms are restricted or banned.
same deal with some US states, and we at least ban things by function, not "assault features"
>you don't even have to register long guns at all ever
When you can buy an AR15, a Beta Cmag, a threaded barrel, and a suppressor for it, let me know
>Any long gun, with no detachable magazine, with a capacity less than 10, and bolt action
Is what you must have meant.
we're going in circles here. Gun owners are paranoid and touchy about the subject because for the last 30 years (as an arbitrary benchmark, for the sake of argument), the left has been grabbing for guns as quickly as they have been able. Every promise of compromise was the threat of repeated affronts down the road. It has been take take take with no give. Paranoid and belligerent is what happened when an otherwise law abiding and peaceful demographic became a political target.
Dude, you're on pol.
I grew up around people who loved guns.(Like, really loved guns) Nobody was racist, it was never even a part our social consciousness.(Nobody fucking thought about it or cared, or even made subtle jokes ironically. It never occurred to us.)
Then I started working with Lefties and all they fucking think about is race. Race race race. You've sullied my mind, and now everything I do and think and say has to be viewed through the lens of this fake, manufactured, politicized bullshit.
The very act of making subtle implications to people that "I'm a good guy, see, I'm not racist" is annoying as fuck, so why bother?
Fuck you, leaf. You're probably a filthy nigger, aren't you?
The who leftist issue was already explained here And yes, Americans get touchy about their guns because every second of every day we are bombarded with propaganda about why we are evil people. Maybe if we could get a short break that would be great and we could relax slightly. But no, that will never happen
Any true socialist/marxist has to be pro-gun since most leftist philosophers said that it's imperative for the proletariat to be armed.
I'll give you a call as soon as you can get that stuff in Cali
this is all besides the point anyway; I at no point said I want firearms to be more regulated than they are. I'm making fun of you for thinking that the US is a magical cowboy land of zero regulation at all, when you have to sign reams of forms to buy stuff at gun stores and gun laws in states vary between "it's ok i guess" and "if you put a foregrip on it, you're fucking deported"
so by ops logic don't buy a gun just let the burglar in and steal your shit and rape you and your wife lmao
Ill take your word for the theory. In practice, every communist country that ever was, the first thing they did was disarm their citizens.
This deserved a screencap. We're all jaded here.
LOL. I got like a half dozen guns on that list, plus more
except in this case it's due to leftist liberal bullshit. just because you want to keep harping on being a special snowflake it doesn't change the obvious general trend most people with common sense can recognize. you only strengthen my argument by being a special snowflake sjw faggot you faggot
>SAvaGE
>the left has been grabbing for guns as quickly as they have been able.
Have you not noticed that every time they make those grabs for guns, they point at things like mass shootings and paranoid militiamen and shit who have acquired their arms legally?
Just stop being terrible with guns and people won't want to grab them. Canada has has comparatively few mass shootings and fairly little gun crime among people who acquire guns legally, so our laws have been getting loosened over time and are a lot more relaxed than people think in the first place (see: removal of the long gun registry, the ease of getting a PAL which is a federal level thing instead of provincial so we don't have special snowflakes like the US does in Cali and NY, etc)
Or better yet, look at Britain. Britain's gun discourse is pretty quiet, because most of the chav crime is being done with knives. So there's bids to make knives harder to get rather than relentlessly attacking firearms.
The left will always push for fun control, and the right would rather save billions of dollars than do all the bureaucratic shit that gun control requires. They'll pretend to be progun, but they're being pragmatically cheap.
Even if one or two leftists happen to like guns, the party is still going to push for controlling them. If you care about the freedom of gats you're gonna have to be a single issue voter.
And we have very idiotic laws.
>any gun that was in an 80s movie is banned
>need a license to buy gun food, but you can buy all the hand loading supplies required to make gun food without one
>need a special license for handguns, and ARs, and you can only shoot them in DESIGNATED shooting ranges
>5 round clipazines
>the only acceptable form of self defense in canada is lube and a rape whistle, so god forbid you actually use it to protect your life
>I have not said ANYTHING negative about firearms or ownership thereof, only about the onwers themselves
admitting to ad hominem and lack of actual argument.
now THATS shitposting
>fun
guns are cool but i would never let you step foot on a range with that attitude
i wouldnt even trust you to operate power tools anymore
>(see: removal of the long gun registry, the ease of getting a PAL which is a federal level thing instead of provincial so we don't have special snowflakes like the US does in Cali and NY, etc)
Done by our Conservative Party, to save money.
>I'll give you a call as soon as you can get that stuff in Cali
Large difference is, I can live in a state that isnt totally retarded and not be affected by it.
Your national laws kind of suck due to the scale of them.
I am also very aware of US gun laws. CA, NY, MA, NJ are all a version of bad. Being state laws though, all I have to do is move to another state, or be smart enough to never move to a shithole to begin with. I left Illinois for college and never even considered going back. I never even considered going to school in-state, though that was not just about gun laws
>Canada has has comparatively few mass shootings and fairly little gun crime among people who acquire guns legally, so our laws have been getting loosened over time and are a lot more relaxed than people think in the first place
which has a higher percentage of white people, canada or usa?
The military seemed to disagree with you, so that's cool.
>i would never let you step foot on a range with that attitude
because you don't own one
Because they resist the leftist brainwashing. You just hit the sweet spot where you buy most of their lies without falling for the whole 'give up your weapons, we won't abuse you once you can't fight back' thing.
>mass shootings, paranoid militiamen
Literally a fraction of a percent of gun violence overall, its just used as an excuse because its flashy news and gets people's emotions involved.
>removal of the long gun registry
Even in NY/NJ, super strict gun laws, long guns don't need to be registered. Virtually zero crimes are committed with hunting rifles, so this is a moot point. This is not an example of generous gun policy.
>Britain's gun discourse is pretty quiet, because most of the chav crime is being done with knives
This is where I end the conversation. You're either trolling/shitposting, as is your leafy nature, or you're genuinely this retarded. Either way, this will be my final post in this thread.
I wish Trump would talk about a wall on our northern border instead, because I am sick to goddamn death of Canadians.
Race is very real user.
Look at the statistics for education and violence when population adjusted.
You can even adjust for socioeconomic factors and there will still be a huge difference.
Race is real, and it's a detriment to force us to live together when we used to have geographical borders like oceans or mountains separating us.
we have no rules on detachable mag, but are only allowed 5 rounds, and semi auto is fine. we also have no waiting periods and can buy guns by mail. we are in a much better position than places like cali or ny, though thats not saying much.
what's your unit and mosid, fuccboy
ps, educate yourself on self-defense in canada. if you claim to be military, you should have attended an ROE lecture at some point in your life :^)
cbc.ca
>le its not le crime problem its le niggre problem :^)
and you wonder why it's political suicide to try to appease gun people in the US
Simple ya
>Even in NY/NJ, super strict gun laws, long guns don't need to be registered.
Not entirely true for NY. Anything the state deems as being an """""assault weapon""""" is supposed to be registered with the state, as of cuomo's 2013 NY """"SAFE"""" act. Of course, compliance for this is estimated to be extremely low.
>Literally a fraction of a percent of gun violence overall,
and knife attacks in britain are a non-issue as well
i'm trying to illustrate why "anti-funners" hate you so much. it doesn't take very many cases to make a perceived problem, just a few high-profile ones and a bad response to them.
the even bigger issue is that when these things happen, instead of agreeing that it was a tragedy that could have been prevented but by something other than gun control (like say, highlighting mental health issues, or criminal motivations, or whatever other thing that doesn't end in "let's ban all the guns"), half of gun nerds jump to defend the shooter for removing [insert race here] and the other half insist that if only everyone else was also carrying a gun this wouldn't have happened (when usually, it would have anyway since it's not like these shooters start shooting expecting SWAT to not demolish them at some point)
also you also only need to present your PAL to buy firearms or ammunition, none of this signing 15 ATF forms to buy a gun shit
really, the existence of the ATF at all is proof that 2a has been infringed and won't stop being infringed for the forseeable future
Nice. I would have also accepted Agent Smith as a correct answer
Because leftist want to take away gun rights, there is pretty much no choice for us but to vote right
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Wrong! The deagle was designed by some muricans that took inspiration from an old swiss project of a gas action small enough to fit a handgun. It was only built by jews.
I call bull on that lad, this is how the average amerikek looks down there.
Small dick x20 is still pretty fucking huge.
Because true socialism/communism says that a group of people must take full power as a result of a revolution and then hand over that power to the entire proletariat.
But it always ends with that group of people taking absolute power and disarming and terrorising everyone.
this is not something I needed to see before going to sleep
This brings to mind,
Why doesn't Hiroshimoot IP ban Canadians from Sup Forums yet?
I would unhesitatingly sacrifice my Sup Forums privileges to save the rest of Sup Forums from the reckless shitposting of other Canadians.
>any government anywhere is gonna be altruistic
the only way you can make a government act in your interest is by demonstrating that it is in their self-interest to give you what you want.
gun owners do the opposite every day by being belligerent weirdos who explicitly say they keep firearms with the express purpose to engage in anti-government/terrorist action at their own (seemingly random) discretion.
Dunno mate the vietcong where communists and seemed to like there guns?
Forgive my noguns but would you not one more than one gun for different things? Fun guns, range guns, war guns etc?
>rely on government instead of corporate interests
Theres a third option you know-neither
>the world is imperfect
>government is the only way! Who else will do it?
Goddamn leaf this is low even for you
the image is just memes but some people only do one of those things, or get one gun that's more versatile
>neither
enjoy your no sewers, no roads, etc
someone larger than you and your immediate family has to handle shit like globe-spanning sea and air routes and country-crossing railroad and road networks
or do you prefer living in the stone age
nailed it
nice copypasta
There does appear to be differences between races. That doesn't make me "hate" people based on that, the same way acknowledging differences between the sexes doesn't make one "hate" men or women.
While it could be argued that life would run smoother if we were a homogeneous society, once someone becomes a citizen of a nation based on laws, that law should be upheld, regardless of who you are. Who we bring under the protection of those laws to begin with is up for debate, but once an individual is under its protection, there's no more arguing.
The problem is that Leftist ideology tends to have a problem with the very idea that people may have differences. They confound the idea of impartiality under law, with a kind of meritless equality under a controlling state, which enforces what they see as fairness.
Hey i get it, economies of scale and what not....but its not neccessary to give centralized power to those who have a monopoly on legalized violence.
Also i see a pattern with you....
>gov't or corporations
>current situation or stone age
Never forget to atleast ask if theres another option
I dont have all the answers, none of us do
Firearms are the ultimate expression of self determination and freedom. Essentially, you are trust people to be good, and manage themselves (for the most part), or you believe in a central authority that rules you and tells you how to live, because they "say so".
You really need to examine why you consider yourself a lefty.
Do you believe that you should be in charge of your life?
Do you believe that if the boogeyman comes knocking, you can curl up in a ball and hope that a civil servant will risk his life for 35K?
Also,
Sage
>most gun owners are nazis or ancap
Good job buying into the leftist rhetoric.
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
Why haven't we IP-range banned all you fucking canucucks?
Atleast the Aussies are funny.
>Barett M82
Yes, yes I would love to destroy old appliances in the desert, but I will never live out that dream ;_:
>The leaf still hasn't replied.
Have fun having your entire fucking country oppressed while I can have nearly any kind of fucking arm I want here in the good ole' Grand Canyon State :^).
>those who have a monopoly on legalized violence.
They only have that monopoly because they lie unchallenged in it, and are only unchallenged because they have shown themselves to know the value of a good deal
i see u've never been 2 /k/
>I say gun owners are paranoid weirdos
>this nigga proceeds to be a paranoid weirdo
>I have not once said that guns should be regulated
>this nigga starts complaining as if I want to ban guns 5ever
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>2016
>not beeing a libertarian gun owner
Are you saying you will never be accosted/robbed/mugged/assaulted in your lifetime Leaf?
You're one of the lucky ones then. But that doesn't invalidate my rights.
>sign reams of stuff
>sign 1 form in 2 places
Kek
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