Who does represent Islam? Is it the Shias? Is it the Sunnis? Amaddiyys? Wahhabis? Al-Qaeda?
Story time: >be me >arguing with feminist moron at school with large Arab/Muslim population >say Islam is a violent religion and based upon the text ISIS, Boko Haram, and the like are the best representation of the religion. >Her: "You're such a fucking idiot. I can't believe you would say that such a small minority of Muslims represent almost two billion peaceful people. I have so many progressive Muslim friends here at X University and they would never do that." >Me: "So the small group of positively selected Muslims who are capable of immigrating and studying here, and, above all, are your friends, and who commit haram acts such as wearing nail polish, driving, etc. absolutely represent two billion practitioners of a single faith. You're a fucking idiot if you don't see that double standard." >Her: "..."
Anyways, when someone says, "ISIS DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS REEEEEE!" how do you respond? I find quoting this video, albeit the video is a joke of course, actually works and the person I'm arguing against usually spews out random syllables of words dumbfounded.
Any religious book holds contradictions at everything it states.
It's not actually a wrong interpretation to take literally the worst parts about it. That hipster video is actually haram.
Jack Foster
ISIS doesn't represent all Muslims, they're right. They fail to realize that ISIS represents the truest form of Islam, and there are actually a lot of people that, while they don't join or do the same shit as ISIS, actively support them.
You don't even need ISIS Muslims to show us why Muslims aren't compatible with western society. Just read the polls and the facts.
And don't even bother arguing with them they're retarded. They will literally deny facts in front of your face cause you're a bigot and or racist.
Ayden Davis
every single religious book represents nothing. they are self contradictory, theres no problem putting all jews iinside the same bag and air drop at their respective countries.
Evan Watson
This is essentially what I believe. Religion is the ultimate blue-pill anyways. It's just a written contradiction.
>They will literally deny facts in front of your face cause you're a bigot and or racist. Yeah, those words don't even bother me anymore. Pretty much because I am a racist though kek.
They don't bother me either because they literally don't even make sense when they use it. They just throw it around like retards to label you.
Easton Hernandez
should have started with the really bad ones then go into the neutral ones
Caleb Young
Here's before the boob job.
Easton Adams
Hahaha PISSLAM BTFO!
Wyatt Powell
ISIS, Boko Haram etc. are the best representation of what societies governed by the Qu'ran could do. Flat reading of the Qu'ran. Flat application.
Shias are Sunnis who beleive in other traditional and eerie shit
Sunnis are wahhabies-wannabies that had to adapt to real life not to get fucked by the west
Muslims in occidental countries are completely bullshiting their religion
>and all of the above is shit
Wyatt James
Well thank god she got the boob job.
Michael Young
Read Stephen Coughlin's Catastrophic Failure or watch his Redpill Lecture. Seriously we need a notice, like how fit warns you to not start a thread asking for very basic information and sends you to a primer, or g has an intro to building your own setup. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY OR ASK ABOUT (A) WITHOUT READING (B) A = Islam, B = Stephen Coughlin's Carastrophic Failure or his Redpill Lecture A = Basic Economics, B = Henry Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson A = Gun Rights, B = In Search Of The Second Amendment A = Gun Crime, B = John Lott's More Guns Less Crime A = Jews, B = Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight Of Three Thousand Years Etc These texts are not the end all and be all. They are short, readable, accessible, widely available, sourced, authoritative introductions that fully answer basic questions.
Wyatt Bennett
Yikes.
Jason Young
> I read one /x/-tier book on the internet about djihad >"how come you don't know islam is religion of terrorism are you a KEK, I am clearly more competent than you on the subject" >hurr durr murrica education
Jose Phillips
"Islamic State" is the thing Sayyid Qutb foresaw as a Muslim adaptation of the Marxist True Communism utopia. It is squarely in line with mainstream Islam and Muslims deny it out of fear of getting in trouble. Sayyid Qutb was the founder of the Ikhwan, the terrorist group Obama made a point of shmoozing when he gave his major address in Egypt. Both Al-Qaeda-ISIS and the Ikhwan derive their idea of Islam from -- watch this now, not from themselves or their own private interpretation but -- al-Azhar University, which is roughly the Muslim Vatican. The actual founder of al-Qaeda was a tenured professor at Azhar. Far from being Hanbali or Wahhabite, ISIS posts jurisprudential justifications for everything they do, strictly from the Salafi and Shafe'i schools, which are the biggest and most respected and mainstream jurisprudential schools.
Adam Hernandez
Whatever "best representation" means, practically Islam is mostly represented by non extremist.
Lucas Richardson
I hope you know you sound like a faggot.
Juan Young
X-tier book on jihad? This is exactly why Coughlin is so powerful. Coughlin serves up extensive cross-referencing quotations -- armies of scholars from different eras all lining up perfectly. There is literally no room for misinterpretation. His book has extensive explanations and quotations. What Coughlin says makes sense and enables prediction. The multikulti nonsense is the x-tier stuff, it makes no sense even in reference to itself. And by the way, prior to finding Coughlin, I took every Islam related course offered at a Detroit university (with tons of Muslim students) and got A's in all of them. The professor for most of them was Saeed Ahmed Khan, who has been a guest expert for BBC. I am telling you to ignore John Esposito and Karen Armstrong, who I have read, and look into Coughlin.
Brody Rodriguez
The religion isn't monolithic. There's no spokesperson that can make significant reforms or guide it like there is with the pope.
When you say ISIS have the true interpretation of Islam then you basically a shill for fundamentalists and Wahabbists without even knowing it.
Actual liberal muslims have a hard enough time as it is, and the right wing make things worse with their simplified world view and explanations.
An actual legitimate complaint about the hard left view of Islam is that there is a significant minority of people who hold hardline views, it's useful to think of the groups in cocentric circles, with Jihadists/ISIS in the very tiny center.
Jacob Martin
Okay, I sound like a faggot. Want to make sense of Islam? Read Coughlin. Want to weep and mumble about how you just don't understand? Read the mainstream consensus about Islam being just another religion. ISIS is mainstream Islam, in line with Qutb's vision, and every Muslim afraid to support them openly is quietly happy to benefit from theur Islamically required work.
Jaxon Cook
good post, leaf
Owen Myers
>Sure, not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorist seem to be Muslim.
Christian Sullivan
before they butchered this girl's poor nipples
Eli Nelson
>liberal >muslim Sounds haram.
And religion is pretty simple: It's all bullshit. Why should I feel bad again about sandniggers and their "hard" lives that they live?
And to your previous statement, just look at Europe. Crime on the rise, Sharia courts, Sweden is the rape capital, etc.
Jack Myers
Islam is actually not fastest growing religion that's more of a meme to try to make it more appealing.
also look up the words taqiiya/idtirar and kitman.
>The religion isn't monolithic. What..
>There's no spokesperson that can make significant reforms or guide it like there is with the pope.
youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc#t=1h0m45s "moderate" muslims tell you there are no absolute rulings in islam (trying to hide from you what the rulings are like when you find sharia law unpleasant for instance) wrong.. ofcourse there is.. Scholarly consensus) Adherent muslims know what they follow.. Reliance of the traveller b7.0-b7.2"When the four necessary integrals of consensus exist, the ruling agreed upon is an authoritative part of sacred law that is obligatory to obey and not lawful to disobey, Nor can mujtahids (expert islamic scholar) of a succeeding era make the thing an object of new ijtihad (different ruling), because the ruling on it, verified by scholarly consensus, is an absolute legal ruling which does not admit of being contravened or annulled."
Ian Torres
>islam is hard to reform You're right about that.
youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc#t=1h02m33s Apostacy in islam (riddah) Whoever voluntarily leaves islam is killed.. "when a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed. Book o8.0-o8.1 reliance of the traveller. Among things that entail apostacy from islam... "To deny any verse of the qur'an or any-thing which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it.... to deny the obligatory character of something which by the consensus of muslims is part of Islam" So even if you don't want to leave islam because you don't want to be killed and live in a muslim nation under sharia law.. you are still in danger of being killed for apostacy if you do one of the aforementioned things. And this is ofcourse only punishments for apostacy.. There are many other ways to incur severe punishments for doing various inappropriate things under sharia law.. This is important because this is the law they want to impose on the entire world, and the kuffar have it MUCH WORSE than the muslims in this regard, if they are even allowed to live as a non muslim in many cases.. So this means that they cannot call anything else but islam a religion, or they are in violation of sharia law.. and risk becoming an apostate and thus likely to be killed/executed. So.. when an islamic organization says the word/term religion.. you can be sure that they mean islam and ONLY islam, and nothing else.
Jaxon Ross
>image.jpg those are some sad fuckin titties
Lincoln Lopez
Degeneration. Basically the story of Western civilization today.
>say Islam is a violent religion and based upon the text ISIS, Boko Haram, and the like are the best representation of the religion. Not really, I agree that Quran has its lot of violent texts but before the litteralist upraising islam was mostly a vocal tradition and a "do like your father does" kind of stuff. Pray, don't do stupid shit, raise your childrens, keep an eye on your woman and daughters and be a good man. But well : >western degeneracy hits the arab world quite hard >SA and their billions funding litteralists views of islam >pointless wars made by the US in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia and Syria Arabs don't even fucking know who they are anymore. I might be overthinking but my point is that the western elites are about to destroy the arab patriarchy after destroying the white one, so that they will only be uncivilized apes remaining. >say Islam is a violent religion and based upon the text ISIS, Boko Haram, and the like are the best representation of the religion. Boko Haram are a bunch of niggers. They're not arabs, berbers, turks or persians, Islam or not they've always been doing niggers stuff.
I think that muslims that kill people in France (I mean it's literally the country that fed and raised them, what a shame) should be impaled or burned alive for treason but what they're doing in Syria is somewhat justified. ISIS and movements that are alike is how arabs react to the degeneracy hitting them, they don't have the intellectual and ideological tools to resist the western degeneracy so they have to rely on the quran and hadiths.
Jack Turner
>terrible canadian accent >terrible instrumentals >terrible clip >terrible chant >reminded me of this friend that really cries all the damn time cause she aborted twins aged 16
fuck you was feeling pretty comfy until this
Mason Cox
This is just not true and is now completely unbelievable.
Thomas Williams
Rather those than the fake tits. People are just used to fake tits now because (((hollywood porn execs))) made fake tits a must for the big screen. Now normal women look unappealing to a lot of men.
Bentley Williams
Her tits are horrible both before and after. No one wants suck those flaps and nipple scars put me off. She should've worked her way up and cut under or on the side. Would be less visible and look more natural
