Atheist General

ITT: Discuss our perspectives on faith and religion. How to dismantle religion, promote freethinking and reason and so on.

Welcome:

Atheists
Agnostics
Respectful theists

Unwelcome:

Rude theists
Fedora memers

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>tfw going to Hell for being a non-believer
How do my fellow atheists deal with this?

giggling, chuckling, belly laughs.

The typical way of dealing with stupid ideas.

Don't be an obnoxious atheist. Just do you and don't be an annoying vegan faggot about it. Talking with someone at a party about their atheist identity is as much of a drag as talking to someone about their crossfit routine, vegan diet or membership in organized religion.

Atheism has been taken over by SJW feminists. Theist ideology is the only way to prevail against the enemy of us all, even if you don't believe in gods.

You shitting me? YouTube is infested with Antifem "edgy" atheists.

People need to understand a simple concept. Opinions cannot be right or wrong, only agreed or disagreed with. This is the flaw in religion. A persons belief is an opinion.
Saying that "My religion is right" breaks down the conversation. And supporting a different religion isn't wrong it's a difference in opinion.
Too often religious people think "I am right".

We could be pursuing scientific progress, but will be hindered by retarded theists and regressive leftists.
>mfw

Funny, I hear more people complain about obnoxious atheists/vegans than I have actually encountered, both outside and even online. But I agree with this post.

Actually, including famous people such as on youtube, the atheist community has split into two sides: SJW and non-SJW. TheAmazingAtheist, Thunderf00t, I believe Sargon of Akkad is an atheist, Dave Rubin, and others are anti-SJW.

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>implying atheists aren't the worst when I comes to 'I am right'

I cannot see myself in a relationship with someone who would want to talk about religion at all. I don't talk about my non-belief often with my partner (also atheist) and have 0 interest talking about my non-belief with a religious partner. I have had friends who have tried to talk to me about it to 'pick my brain' and it just gets exhausting because I can tell that that they are worried that I am going to hell or something.
I also want to have kids some day and my kids being raised in a religious environment is just NOT going to happen. And it is every religious person's right to want their kid to be raised in that kind of environment. It just wouldn't mesh well. FUCK CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!1

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grow up

because indeed we're dude.....not trying to be a dick but your arguments for the debate are just ridiculous

read the OP flip

>Unwelcome
>Fedora memers

I laugh.

My man Aquinas. Flawless logic.

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Good to know theists can't read

Are there legit religious people on this board who think they will go to an alternate paradise dimension after their brains (and thus consciousness) die (cease to exist)? Not to mention how horrible most of you people are. I'm assuming it's just a ruse right, nobody is that deluded.

Isn't it funny when philosophers argue obvious nonsense as though it's a sensible point?

Atheists are fags.

ITT: retards

I kinda feel bad for atheists, they don't have a fuckin clue.

*tips fedora* have a nice day, m'ladies

Jesus was a fag. That's a historical fact afaik

> Not to mention how horrible most of you people are

BTFO tout le monde, mon dieu

>Not to mention how horrible most of you people are

I think half of the theists on here are LARPing but yeah, this place is full of pretty shitty people. They just use the veil of religion to cover for their actions.

Hello~
If you don't understand the relevance of this image, it's because you know virtually nothing about epistemology~
Whether you understand it or not, you're still fucked~

I wouldn't mind atheists if it wasn't for the fact you morons pollute our society with degenerate garbage and have allowed the slippery slope of degenerate rights to ensue. Soon pedoohiles will think they can come out and it's all thanks to muh "intellectual free thinking atheists(:" fuck you

>implying scientific progress doesn't happen all the time

The only reason we have what we call science is because of Aristotle, who believed in god.

Checkmate atheist fag.

I believe in energy. If you think about it, it has the 4 characteristics that are given to god: omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and eternal. I think that all gods are just poor interpretations of energy.

Bump.

>energy
>omniscient

>energy
>omnipotent

Yes, here's how:
All knowledge is thought. And all thought is electrical and chemical energy. Thus, energy contains all knowledge.

Anything is possible, given enough energy. And it is through expending energy that any action is done. Thus, energy is omnipotent.

As a bonus, I'll give the rest.

Matter is energy. And energy is matter. Thus, everywhere matter is, there's energy. However, scientists have found that even in the vacuum of empty space there exists a sort of vacuum energy, so energy is literally everywhere.

According to the law of conservation of energy, energy cannot be created or destroyed. So, if it exists, it has always existed and will always exist, making it eternal.

Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Eternal

>Sup Forums
>Politics

Keep religious/atheist discussion out pls.

You make so many presumptive leaps and equivocations there it isn't even funny.

most christianity to fedora tippers converts are edgy teens and ignorant cunts

most converts from fedora tipping to christianity are actual adults who have ridden themselves of ignorance

science and freethinking are not products of atheism, stop spreading that poppycock around

desu i dont give half a shite if you do not believe in a divine being just because you cant see it, but please dont use science and freethinking as a justification to get people to join your fedora tipping group

You know who else is kekking right now?
Psalm 2:4
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Point them out, then.

>Soon pedoohiles will think they can come out and it's all thanks to muh "intellectual free thinking atheists(:"
That sure is a slippery slope there. I feel like shunning pedophiles only leads to them taking measures to cover their tracks/keep any possible crimes a secret. Should we instead encourage pedophiles to come out and treat them as patients who need medical/psychological help? Maybe.

It seems a lot of them are excathocucks too

>if you aren't well versed in my stupid nonsense, you don't know anything

Ok there champ.

Really, epistemology isn't complicated. If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not.

The uniformity principle and cause and effect idea are actually irrelevant to epistemology. They're particular theories that are useful in particular universes... and can be disproved.

>dismantle religion
>respectful theists

I'm always respectful towards people who want to dismantle my beloved institutions.

Eat fuck you fedoratipping edgelord.

Attacking Christianity is boring and played out. Where can I go to tip my fedora at Islam? Are there any Muslim forums or chat rooms that won't ban you in two seconds for criticizing their religion?

>I'm an adult that unironically believes in magic
>Atleast I don't wear a funny hat

>All knowledge is thought
>all thought is electrical and chemical energy
also,
>Thus, energy contains all knowledge
doesn't follow as a necessary conclusion *even if* those other things were true.

>According to the law of conservation of energy
Which you have no idea whether it's an unviolable law, and just assume it to be because as far as you or you believe others have ever experienced it hasn't been observed to have been broken.

And more shit, but I'm highly uninterested in talking about this to a guy with a writing style like yours - I'm stereotyping you in with the average scientism worshiping retard since you fit the image too well.

>If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not
So "all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't true, since "all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't a statement about reality that can be used to accurately predict the future.
Fucking. Brilliant.
I absolutely *ADORE* when people who know jack diddly shit about philosophy try to jump in and pretend they can articulate a point. Absolutely stunningly hilarious.

I stand against all religion. Obviously we see more criticism of Christianity because its the dominant religion in the West.

Imagine god having earth as a television show and then the sitcom richard dawkins comes on and all of heaven laugh their ass of how dawkins says a universe comes from nothing

>"all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't true, since "all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't a statement about reality that can be used to accurately predict the future.

It looks like you made a logical error, but I'll play along to make sure:
Of course, It can be used to make predictions about bachelors. I can go investigate all the bachelors and find out that none of them are, in fact, married.

NOT
AN
ARGUMENT

Bump. Where are the Muslims at?

An a priori true proposition has nothing whatsoever to do with what you do a posteriori~

it was Christians that rushed in here to attack atheists. I made no reference to any particular religion.

What do i call myself if i believe a higher entity/god exists but isn't the one labeled in these fairy-tail books and their rules on what's right and wrong?

>An a priori true proposition has nothing whatsoever to do with what you do a posteriori~

In which case you made the logical error i was alluding to.

> If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not.

Your statement isn't about reality, hence my definition has nothing whatever to say about it. Your statement is not untrue according to my definition.

Nice try though.

>In which case you made the logical error i was alluding to
What the fuck are you even saying? Is your google search failing you literally this hard, or is it that your reading of it is that poor?

Are you also lefties? Dismantling Christianity is just asking for more degeneracy.

"all bachelors are unmarried" is a statement about the definition of the word bachelor. It's not a statement about reality.

A priori true propositions are just definitions. They don't address what exists or doesn't exist, just like you said.

Theist would work and means nothing more than you think a god exists. Deist is the same but I believe there's a general component of god created everything, set it into motion then does not ever intervene with its creation.

>It's not a statement about reality
You're right! WHich is exactly what I said here dipshit-san~
>"all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't a statement about reality

Let's lay out *YOUR* dipshit criteria for what's true and what's nooooot~

>If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not
Here's a statement about reality that cannot be used to predict the future senpai: Dinosaurs existed.
Under y our criteria, that's not truuuuuuue~

Absolutely *BRILLIANT*!

atheists are basically jewish puppets

>all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't a statement about reality

is NOT the same as

> "all bachelor's are unmarried" isn't a statement about reality that can be used to accurately predict the future.

For a """"""""philosopher"""""""" you sure seem to be pretty careless about the meaning of words

If you accept that it's not a statement about reality, you should have known that it was irrelevant to the definition I laid out. Obviously you didn't realize that at the time, and obviously you made a fool of yourself.

>Dinosaurs existed.
This is pretty desperate. You're one of those anti evolutionists aren't you?

The existence of dinosaurs predicts the existence of fossilized dinosaur bones. Depending on what you mean by dinosaurs, it could also predict the similarity of dinosaur dna in modern creatures.

You're right! They're two separate criteria! Only *ONE* of which was being talked about for a moment! BRILLIANT observation dipshit-san~ Stunning!


>If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not
Really? What about "Dinosaurs existed"?
>S-shut up!
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leddit is opened again , you can go back now

>Only *ONE* of which was being talked about for a moment!

Lmao are you even able to read what I'm writing. I'm getting the feeling that you're assravaged over your mistake and aren't going to be honest anymore.

Just tell me if you understand that

"a statement about reality that can be used to accurately predict the future."

is a subset of

"a statement about reality"


That statements that fail to fulfill the latter, are not addressed by the former. Also tell me if you understand that your first example was completely irrelevant to my criteria.

>What about "Dinosaurs existed"?

I addressed this in my previous reply.

Is it weird that I believe atheists are the most rational and have the most sound reasoning, but I still believe in a higher power? I think it is weird.

I recognize there's really no good reason to believe such a higher power exists, but I still feel it in my heart that its out there. Can any Sup Forumstards relate?

I am a leftist, yes. But you don't have to be.

Kill yourselves you egalitarian freedom haters

I love freedom though.

OH WOOP HERE WE GO!
PROPOSOTIONAL BREAKDOWN FOR THE LOGICALLY IMPAIRED!

>If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not

WHAT ARE WE TALKIN' ABOUT JAYMAL?
>Uh... we talkin' about statements rite?
Ezzactly! What kind of statements we talkin' about Tyrese?
>We talkin' about statements of da variety dat pertain to reality, rite?
Fuckin' rite Orangello! What other criteria we needa fulfill here?
>Well, these statements, which in dis case are statements about reality, dey gotta also be able ta be used 2 accurutly predict da future an shiet, rite?
Man Grapeoleo, u rite again! And if dis is da case, what do we have?
>Well, if it b true that we have a statement about reality dat also can be used 2 accurutly predict da future, den dat statement b true. Othawise, dat shit ain't dope - is not true.
Shiiiiiiiet.

Mormon user here to ask you if you want to shoot hoops with Jesus in the afterlife

I'll take that as a no.
lol....
BTFO'd him so hard, he turned into a nigger.

I'm fine, but thanks for the offer Joseph

religious extremism is discrediting religion pretty well

It's ok, I've had my fill of your insecurities. I'm off

Great rebuttal senpai - as stellar as your *AMAZING* criteria for truth! You couldn't even understand your native language of ebonics.

>If a statement about reality can be used to accurately predict the future, it's true. If it cannot, it's not
lmao~

Bai bai dipshit~
Don't worry, your posts still remain in the archives forever for everyone to seeeee~

Islam is the one, the only redpilled religion of Sup Forums neck yourself spineless atheists.

What's the situation like in India?

>agnostics
Jesus Christ I hate these people.

It's a really simple question: do you believe in god? Y/N. It's not 'do you have 100% irrefutable evidence bla bla' It's just the lack of the belief.

And you have the nerve to say 'I-I'm not s-s-sure what I b-belive' Sheesh.

i want to inseminate junko

>dismantle religion
>only good goyim theists allowed

Well some people are just genuinely unsure or disinterested. I lean a little towards apatheism myself. But I call myself an atheist generally.

She is a supermodel.

Why burn churches when they can be re-purposed for better use?

People become atheists for many different reasons. Essentially, religion functions as an "in-group" where they share a sense of belonging, typically viewing other groups of the type as bad.

Many former Christians of the leftist variety follow Secular Humanism. They give up the idea of god, and replace it with their brand of science and leftism. As much as I dislike religion, I abhor Secular Humanism, as they glorify the slave morality of Christianity, while perpetuating degenerate ideology.

> So, what is atheism to me?
Simply, I don't feel that I have enough evidence to conclude that there is a god (but, to be perfectly honest, I am more of an igtheist).
> Why reject religion?
they are dogmatic, and do not allow for adaptation. Their moral codes may get in the way of progress. It is an obstacle in the pathway of progress.

> What do I mean by progress?
I am not talking about leftism or anything of the sort. I am referring to the preservation of Western Civilisation and of technological advancement. It may become necessary to slaughter those of different ideologies for the betterment of society, and the Jain idea that one shouldn't kill is a problem. The Commandment "Thou Shalt not Murder" could be used to condemn that action.

Any kek worshipers here?

Why do you faggots always try to make atheism about destroying others religions? Religion is how some people deal with the vast empty void of eternal nothingness looming over them. That's how they deal with it and some of us turn to science and reason yet we don't have to attempt to destroy their faith in order to believe what we believe in. We're better then that

Religion isn't necessarily a coping mechanism for anything mane.

those who don't believe in God are always the ones that bring the topic up?

Do you also bring up topics of ghosts and aliens too or are you trying to justify your believe because you fear you may be wrong?

>I abhor Secular Humanism, as they glorify the slave morality of Christianity, while perpetuating degenerate ideology.
What specifically do you mean?

He means, to paraphrase:
>muh syphilis

>Atheist General

That logo.

I saw this faggy old pedo looking dude at the market the other day with an "A" badge. What kind of faggot walks around wearing an Atheist badge

cringe.

They actively try to push it on others, indoctrinating their kids, demand special treatment like churches not having to pay taxes/hate speech laws, retard science, education and human progress.
Everything wrong with the middle east, or why Israel and Palestine can't get a 2-state-solution can be traced back to religion etc. And so much more.

tl;dr: We don't care as long as you keep it to yourself.

good post finnbro

>That sure is a slippery slope there. I feel like shunning pedophiles only leads to them taking measures to cover their tracks/keep any possible crimes a secret. Should we instead encourage pedophiles to come out and treat them as patients who need medical/psychological help? Maybe.
Maybe they where born that way and we should all just quit being such pedophobes. Love wins!

do you also stand against all Easter Bunnies and Orcs too?

why waste your time standing against something you don't think exists? seems like you do believe in God, but wish to stand against him.

>how to promote free thinking
>by destroying opposing opinions from yours

Oh atheists there you go again