Did America cause the rise of ISIS? and other groups

Did America cause the rise of ISIS? and other groups.

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Shut up aboriginal

I could tell you but i dont wanna get knocked off

Yes, It's not like America would make you another star in their flag.

Obama did not create help ISIS

Why is everyone blaming America all the time?

You know damn well Russia did the same shit during the Cold War. They funded and armed Communist Maniacs from South America to Asia and killed millions.

:DDDD

>defending America by comparing us to Communist Russia
Only in Sup Forums.

Because forty years ago the USA could claim it was only doing it because it needed to do so to combat the Soviet Union and prevent the Big Bad Commies from taking over the world.

Well, now the Americans are the commies, and they have no equivalent threat to scaremonger against it. Which makes their endgoal rather transparent.

Well America funded and trained the Mujahideen who eventually became Al Qaeda who did 9/11 which caused america to invade afghanistan and fight the people they funded in the first place
then they also invaded iraq because of alleged weapons of mass destruction that never really existed and the rest of the world was getting dragged into this mess
then when we pulled out of iraq there was a whole load of equipment there and some trained soldiers, which when mixed in with the arab spring which was probably also backed, trained and funded by americans, created an entity called the islamic state

so yes they did

>B-but da Russians did it too!

America is the only reason ISIS exists. Same goes with Al Qaeda.

To be fair, In some respects they've been trying to clean up their mess by smashing the roach and watching it split into different roaches and smashing that one and getting more and smashing that one and so on..

Venezuela, North Korea and 90% of modern Communist movement groups were the creation of Russia

although I suppose gavrilo princip caused ISIS since he caused world war one which caused world war two which led to the cold war and then the soviet-afghan war etc etc

>North Korea
That kid who thinks he's hotshit but at the sametime is dogshit.

Yes. It's all about Greater Israel, goy.

>Are we the baddies
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why do people think that the Nazis invented the "totenkopf"? it's a Prussian insignia that began under Frederick the Great.

Partially. Feel like taking a trip down the rabbit hole?

Sup Forums is the same board who defends Russia as being some savior when they did the same shit the USA has done

North Korea is equally Americas fault. Look up the actual conflict and it's politics. America loterally arranged the assassination of a South Korean president to further it's agenda and fuel the divide.

literally*

National Bolshivism

>Whataboutism, except from an American

Top kek

This.

Sure, some blame goes to the USSR, who also trained militias here and there to wage their proxy wars for them during the era of the cold war. But after the fall of the iron curtain, they at least stopped.
The US frequently "intervenes" for "humanitarian" reasons (oil), thus destabilising entire countries.

They are indirectly responsible for Al-Qaeda, the IS and the current stream of migrants that is flooding europe.

only al quaida, which was merely interested in financial destruction of the west
the youngins branched off from al quaida and got violent

Or we can blame the sand niggers for acting like savage animals.

obviously.. we should have killed the entire region and claimed the territory as our own.

>Obama did not create help ISIS
that's like saying I didn't blow up my house. I just left the gas turned on and walked outside for a while.

Aboriginals don't have electricity, let alone computers and the internet

America provided some funds and weapons, but the actual training was in Pakistan by the ISI. Most of the recruits came through Saudi Arabia, as well as them matching the funding. The Saudis were scared the Russians would move down through Afghanistan and attempt to cut off the waterway for Saudi oil exports.

As for ISIS, the groups that would form it were already in Iraq before the war, making the Kurds women wear and burqas and shit. Would they be as large as they are if they didn't have a failed state? Obviously not. But let's not pretend the West created the ideology or the groups, it just gave them an opportunity to grow.

There have been Islamist/Jihadists groups and uprisings for at least 40 years now, including one in Syria in the 70s (the recent battle in Aleppo was named after a martyr from that uprising). The whole 20th/21st century with Islam has been a fight against secularization. Primarily organized around the thoughts of the Muslim Brotherhood and Sayyid Qutib.

>America is the only reason ISIS exists. Same goes with Al Qaeda
they 'may' have existed anyway.. but we trained and armed them. smart

>It's a thread about a topic that has been answered 1000 times already to get easy replies episode

They're not trying to clean anything. They ensure that the region remains unstable so Saudi Arabia will always require their military protection in return for selling their oil in US dollars. The US dollar has run its course and is being artificially held up by the brute force of the US military

yes. when we invaded iraq, we destroyed the infrastructure that was keeping the terrorists at bay.

And we should do that too.
But we should also have an open discourse about the supposed western ideal of non-interventionism.