Can we talk about how Jon Hamm's character did nothing wrong in Baby Driver?

Can we talk about how Jon Hamm's character did nothing wrong in Baby Driver?

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I enjoyed this movie a lot.

Buddy had many opportunities to kill Baby but he passed them up to indulge in dramatic effect

He's a white male

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>committing armed robbery
>killing cops trying to apprehend him

hmm

this

Get a life you fucking dickhead

I'm a gamer, I have hundreds of lives

>Baby kills Jamie Foxx in a temper tantrum and blows the whole heist
>Jamie Foxx was a total asshole, but hadn't directly done anything bad to Baby
>lots of cops die in the ensuing shootout
>Buddy's lover gets shot to bits in front of him
>Baby gets away without a scratch after mere 5 years in prison
How were we supposed to sympathize with Baby again? What if Debora died because of someone's stupidity, would he be the villain as well?

>hasn't seen the movie
If Baby wasn't a total faggot they wouldn't have to kill any cops at all.

He may have been an asshole, but did Jamie Foxx really do anything to deserve to die?

Foxx killed people left and right and might have killed Debora and Babys grandfather if given the chance. Killing him was the only logical choice

Yes, he casually murdered seemingly any tradesman who crossed his path.

He was about to fucking kill Debora in the diner before he stopped him and he fucked with his grandad. Also he was a fairly loose cannon, he'd have the guts to actually kill Baby as well if he wanted to.

It's part of the job.

>It's part of the job
So killing Kevin Spacey's gun dealer contacts because he was a paranoid fuckhead was part of his job?
He also had to kill the cop outside the bank, oh totally needed to do that!
It's also implied he either beat up or killed the guy in the convenience store just to steal a box of gum packs.
He was literally just killing because he was a psychopath with no self control.

>gamer
Kys 1000 times over gamerfag

But why then? Why blow the entire heist?

Spacey was retarded for not telling them "Oh by the way you're buying these guns from dirty cops. Don't be alarmed by them being really fucking suspicious and everything looking like a sting operation." That's all on him.

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he acted like a retard and shot near baby's ears instead of just getting it over with.

That was the only time they were together. If he waited until afterwards, he'd be fucked

He wanted Baby to lose something he loves (Debora) just like he did, not simply kill him.

He should've gone to Doc for help or something, Doc wasn't a good guy but Baby was more important to him than some muscle like Bats.

Then again, I guess I get why Baby did that, but I also understand why Jon Ham went batshit and simply couldn't see him as a villain at the end.

I thought he meant to deafen him completely so he couldn't listen to music any more.

He did go deaf, didn't he? That's why he had to put his hand on the car speakers to "hear" the music at the end?

Yeah. But what I mean is that when Jon Hamm said he wanted to take away something Baby loved, he wasn't talking about Debora.

Yeah, you're right about the music thing.

Shit, did he go completely deaf? I need to see this movie again.

Was Baby /our guy/?


You know...before he got a qt gf

so he was just gonna walk away and let him live?
maybe even say "we're square." kiss my ass, it's a dumb ending.

Did Buddy actually die? After what he did during the movie I'm not so sure.

Buddy > > > > Baby

No, he was still going to fuck Baby up (and fuck Debora too, though in a different way). But he wanted a bit of justice to go along with the punishment, thus deafened him to take away something he loved.

Baby = plebbit
Buddy = Sup Forums

He's definitely /our autism/. Difficulty socializing, speaks mostly in sentences he heard from movies or other people.

>"If you don't see me again, I'm dead."
>we don't see him again
Did he died?

>girl hears him tape her
>doesn't freak out
>instead flirts with him

How is he /our guy/?

so it's "then you have my permission to die" tier stupid. amazing

It's /our fantasy/

Obviously? Then again, didn't Doc say he doesn't like to use the same crew?

I took it to mean he was going to fake his death and fuck off with his heist cash

>murderous Jon Hamm will never look into your eyes as he sings Barry White
JUST

Joe - Lawful Good
Debora - Neutral Good
Baby - Chaotic Good
The Butcher - Lawful Neutral
Griff - True Neutral
JD and Eddie - Chaotic Neutral
Doc - Lawful Evil
Buddy and Darling - Neutral Evil
Bats - Chaotic Evil

Yes
He was a psychotic asshole who killed people for literally no reason, whether he was in the middle of criminal activity or just buying gum at a gas station. He nearly murdered a waitress at a diner just because she was slightly rude. Maybe impaling him on a bundle of steel cables was a bit extreme, but Baby was only giving Bats his just desserts

Because they were all murderous fucking criminals and Baby was being forced to assist them.
They already killed several people and were probably going to keep killing people if someone didn't stop them.

That was his best chance.

Yes
Buddy killed him for staring at Darling's ass

what kind of retard goes out in the open in a fire fight? she deserved to die

Buddy and Darling were professionals from what we saw though. Bats was the trigger happy fucker.

>heal turn because he found out Baby had a waifu....even though he threatened to kill her earlier in the movie

pretty stupid

I felt like she sensed that they were absolutely fucked so decided to go out in a blaze of glory.

but they had the getaway car right there and they had buddy shooting the fuck out of the 4 police men

HE SET UP THE MEETING FOR THEM

literally no reason to do that dramatic dual wielding shit

>that fucker who buys an Austin Powers mask instead of Michael Myers
I was dying.

That's my point. Why not TELL THEM the meeting was with dirty cops so they wouldn't freak out when they realized they were dealing with cops?

this, the dumb bitch died cause she went rambo. not cause of baby. baby knew these guys were gonna kill him after the heist so he did what he did to survive.

What age target group of this movie?

What is this kid of poster called?

Girls looks here much more attractive than in movie.

pic screams gta

Babies

Why'd they off hat gook?

Because he fucked up during the heist.

Until this thread, I thought that movie was a sequel to this shit.

No you didn't.

I did because I never see anything other than Sup Forums and someone posted some scene from that movie as a thread starter for this movie. I never looked twice.

it is boss baby is kevin spacey

So you genuinely thought Baby Driver, a movie released in June, is a sequel to an animated movie that was released in March?

I don't keep up with kid's shit. I've no clue when either came out other than one was before the other.

But you knew they were both released this year. It just doesn't make logical sense why you would think one would be a sequel to the other.

Nope. No clue at all.

Alright then.

It may also stem from the fact that I have image loading turned off and must click on an image to actually see it.

another movie showing the asian character as comedic relief.he acted dumb. surprise they didn't make him do a chinese accent

I figured Doc killed him for threatening Baby, which made Doc's turn at the end a little more believable for me.

Asians can't act, so that's all they're good for.

There was a scene later where a doctor checked out his ears and he talked to Deborah at the end, so his ears were fucked for a bit but got fixed.

...

saw it for a 2nd time, the ending isn't so bad the second time. not sure why, but it seemed to make sense this time

Why do so many people hate a film if they don't 100% agree with the decisions the protagonist makes?

so they want us to believe that baby didn't get raped while in prison for 5 years?