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controlled demolition

Intense heat from the burning towers caused the the steel in this building to weaken and hence cause it to fall

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The fact remains that the buildings fell at free fall speed meanin they fell completely un obstructed by anything below it... We can talk about jet fuel all day but all three fell at free fall speed meaning the level below was cleared out before the one above it fell on it. With sandwiching it hits, dislodges, hits, dislodges slowing the rate of falling. Buildings that have controlled demolitions fall in that manner. Not buildings suffering from structural failure. The ALSO tend to lean as the metal distorts which prohibits straight down collapse and would have made them top heavy pulling to whichever side the great damage would have been on. My guess would be the site of impact. Say what you want but the physics and pure mathematics don't lie. It was demolished. Not to mention jet fuel doesn't cut base supports in a straight line with thermite.

Lol so WEAK

FOR THE RCORE, this building falling down without getting BTFO by a jet is 100% bizarre

Daily reminder that "Bush did 9/11" truthers are useful idiots distracting from "Bush knew about 9/11 but ignored it"

The end result is the same (tragedy exploited for geopolitical gains) but you fags for some reason feel the need to overly complicate everything to the point that people who say "Bush ignored a taskforce set up by his predecessor to catch Bin Laden" get lumped with "HOLOGRAPHIC MISSILES HIT THE WTC AND THEN A MICRONUKE IN THE BASEMENT WAS SET OFF" types

Wake up! If this was evidence that it collapsed due to the extreme heat then the other building surrounding that square would have melted to the ground! It was several hours later that this happened and that would have not been logical to have only happened to ONE BUILDING!! GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!

>Explain
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makes sense that it then was the ONLY other building around collapsing.
Without other buildings showing the slightest signs of breaking.

Let's just forget about this whole thing guys

shove a banana up yer ass ya manlet nerd

For those who complain that opponents of the official 9/11 story just "cry about melted steel and stuff", I'll explain the significance. The laws of probability, thermodynamics and thermochemistry dictate that military-grade unreacted nano-thermite does not form spontaneously, and office fires of hydrocarbons burning in air of up to 21% oxygen cannot melt iron or steel. The time evolution of a spontaneous process will be in the direction of increasing entropy; thus, a sophisticated, highly energetic, nano-engineered accelerant comprising 40 nm-thick aluminum plates and 100 nm iron oxide grains requires a 'creator' - e.g., the U.S. military.

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Tinfoil faggots never show pics from the other side.

Notice the structural damage especially apparent toward the base.

Giant chunks for the twin towers did hit that building though.

If you are all into the science behind the unprovoked false flag by the military industrial religious media banking complex against the civilians of the world, consider the micro nukes in the basement theory and forget building 7. That was a red herring. Look closely again as the 2 big buildings basically get vaporized.

> A few billion pounds of concrete and steel hit the ground with enough force to liquefy.
>No shock wave that could damage other buildings.
Tinfoilers fuck off. We have real problems to deal with.

>one side all fucked up
>other side perfectly fine
>collapses perfectly uniform at free fall speed

that is not how it works geek

Flaming debris ignited the roof. Steel beams from the north tower also smashed into the side of it as it collapsed.

The fire burned for 8+ hours until the fire department claimed the building was unsound due to the roof fire spreading down 14 floors. The building collapsed an 40 minutes later. There were no causalities.

but still no jetfuel that "melts steel beams" direct damage. that was the argument why the oh so solit WTCs could collapse in the first place, since a plane alone without the "increadible hot fire" would not have made it fall.
That's what they say.

I have never seen this pic.

This also disproves the idea that the twin towers fell into their own footprint.

You forgot the part where the fire impacted all the beams in the building to the exact same effect so that all the beams failed at the exact same time, causing a perfectly straight downward collapse. It was a very hot fire.

It's not perfectly uniform. You only watched one of the videos.
Watch the videos again.
>Notice how the structure on the roof collapses first.
>Notice how it leans toward the damaged side. >Notice how the only videos used in tinfoil videos are from angles which obfuscate details that indicate a non uniform collapse.
>Notice how halfway down the leaning is undeniable in videos that show the majority of the building, not just the top 20 floors.

youtu.be/uFJa9WUy5QI

Because the internet is spammed with pics from angles that support tinfoil theories.
>Just google "Tower 7 structural damage"
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They didn't collapse at the same time. That is utter bullshit. Watch this fucking video.
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On a building that short it would be impossible to notice the level of bend that would cause a collapse. However, a bulge in the building was noticed before the collapse and was a contributing factor in removing firefighters from the building.

WTC 7 was also partially damaged by the collapse of the north tower.

Also building almost always will collapse vertically downwards, even in partial collapses. This is because in order to even stand in the first place they have to stand incredibly straight up otherwise they will lean. There is also no reason why they would fall any direction other than down because there are no forces that drive them horizontally. Unless they collapse in a hurricane, forces generated by the wind are small compared to the mass of a building.

Just look at the Oklahoma city bombing or the Sampoong Mall collapse.

Not to mention thermite doesn't remove idiot genes form the gene pool.

>610ft is short?

>The original 7 World Trade Center was a 47-story building, designed by Emery Roth & Sons, with a red granite facade. The building was 610 feet (190 m) tall, with a trapezoidal footprint that was 330 ft (100 m) long and 140 ft (43 m) wide.[12][13] Tishman Realty & Construction managed construction of the building, which began in 1983

You cant make something a fact just by calling it a fact, retard.
You are parroting made up bullshit.
>good job.

It was partially controlled. The building was disintegrating on a molecular level from the inside. Then it was pulled down with explosives.

What about OKC? You mean the fact that the fucking thing was packed full of explosives?

Nope. It burned from the inside out.
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lol shut up nerd

Go fuck yourself, retard.
>better to be a nerd than a retard faggot like you.

Sure there were some small office fires. But that's not what caused the building to smoke like it did and collapse.

is this nerd srs rn?

cause its shopped, the top left of the sunny side of the building should be in shadow from the smoke but its not.

Can you explain these burnt cars? What caused this?

>pic related.

It was the giant diesel tanks in the basement.
>Diesel generators for backup power.

>Engineers from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation investigated oil contamination in the debris of WTC 7. Their principal interest was directed to the various oils involved in the Con Ed equipment. However, they reported the following findings on fuel oil: "In addition to Con Ed's oil, there was a maximum loss of 12,000 gallons of diesel from two underground storage tanks registered as 7WTC." To date, the NY State Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and DEC have recovered approximately 20,000 gallons from the other two intact 11,600-gallon underground fuel oil storage tanks at WTC 7.

It's like you never looked into this on your own.

Probably fire. Quit being silly.

>This also disproves the idea that the twin towers fell into their own footprint.
That was never a real idea in the first place. Conspiracy theorists are just dumb. Just watching the video you could see giant pieces of the towers falling far from the base.

And all that gold and cash that went missing, and the cargo trucks discovered abandoned in the tunnels bebeath the complex ... they were ... they were evaporated by all the ... jet fuel!

Fire. Okay, from the plane impact?

your assessment of the lighting is incorrect, try again.
You aren't using enough points of reference for the shadow, or you have poor spatial awareness (which makes you most likely female).

>The fact remains that the buildings fell at free fall speed meanin they fell completely un obstructed by anything below it

1) There's no such thing as "freefall speed" you guys have had fifteen fucking years to learn the difference between speed, velocity, and acceleration. Seriously, pick up a fucking high school physics book or something and get your shit together.


2) None of the towers collapsed at freefall acceleration (g). Each tower went through a similar progressive collapse sequence

a) A brief moment of near-freefall in the instant the supports finally buckled and the collapse started
b) Rapid deceleration as the collapsing mass encounters resistance
c) Increase in acceleration as the collapsing mass gains momentum and the surviving support structure becomes able to offer less and less effective resistance, asymptotically approaching but never reaching freefall
d) Rapid deceleration as the collapsing mass reaches street level and the becomes effectively incompressible.

This sequence is described in excruciating detail in all of the NIST reports on the collapse of Towers 1, 2, and 7.

It can also be shown that the average rate of acceleration for all three towers was LESS than the freefall rate. The North Tower collapsed at an average acceleration of between one-half the freefall rate, the South Tower between two-thirds, and Building 7 at around four-fifths the freefall rate.


Or, more easily, you can simply look at the debris falling off away from the sides of the building during the collapse - the falling debris (which, in the complete absence of anything below it) accelerates towards the ground at freefall. In all three collapses, the free debris outpaces the rate of collapse of the building, even though the maximum initial velocity can't be any greater than the instantaneous velocity of the surrounding collapsing mass. The ONLY way that is physically possible is if the collapse is accelerating at LESS than the freefall rate.

For how dumb they are, the tinfoilers can be very selective with the footage they put in their videos.

If it was a conspiracy perpetrated by the US gov, it would be much easier to pull strings so it ends up happening with middle eastern radical muslim hijackers flying the planes than any theory put forth by the tinfoil group.

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Barry Jennings just happened to die under mysterious circumstances as did others I don't care to remember.

I just hope and pray people like me with the brains and the tools I don't yet know how to use find you fuckers when the dust settles, and show no remorse.

Stop using all of this logic. Tinfoils can't handle it or else they wouldn't be conspiracy theorists.

I would have to see the locations of the cars, but I would put money on falling debris compromising the fuel tanks of the vehicles ignited by either sparks from breaking/colliding metal and/or very hot or flaming debris.

How is this a mystery again? Why am I explaining how a car might start on fire? You cannot be this dumb.

And this isn't "minutia" or "insignificant details" either... this pretty fucking wholly the crux of the entire "controlled demolition argument", the blatantly false claim that all three buildings collapsed at a constant 9.81 m/s^2

You can argue about "insider information" and "actionable intelligence" till the cows come home. That's circumstantial arguments for a circumstantial theory. Go fucking nuts with it.

But the bottom line is that the physical evidence, the real shit, doesn't support the controlled demolition theory. Find a new theory that fits that fact.

But it did get BTFO by 2 110 story buildings.

7/11 was a part-time job.

Thanks for being here buddy, I was starting to lose my shit.

This sums it up nicely.

>a perfectly straight downward collapse
>perfectly straight

You and I clearly have different definitions of "perfectly straight".

Not judging. What you do in the bedroom is between you and your life partner.

shills are out in force, but the majority of us here know the truth and I can't fully understand their intentions here.

Maybe it's to distract us from more important threads going on right now?

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Look at this picture. How did the car end up atop the other (left) and what caused the burn marks on the hood of the car on the right?
Something doesn't add up.

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>free fall speed
Do you even know what free fall is?

On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.

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Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.

We are on the same side on a lot of things, but you are simply wrong here.

Who knows how that guy died? If you look hard enough there are suspicious circumstances to be found around any death, it is just that people in the public eye are more (easily) scrutinized, so the suspicious details are readily available.

Sometimes it IS a suspicious death, sometimes it isn't but people looked hard enough to find details that make it seem that way.

Ever wonder why there is a conspiracy theory about the death of EVERY FUCKING CELEBRITY who dies? This is a crude explanation of the phenomena at play. This is the same reason every mass shooting is now called a "false flag," anomaly hunting, plain and simple.

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The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.

The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.

NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7’s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“.

The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.

I wonder if there's a 9/11 debunk AI that the government uses to post in these threads or is there a professional team of dis-information posters hired to "debunk" tinfoil.

Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away. Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away. Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years, releasing video after video with complete impunity (and getting younger and younger as he did so), before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video, in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it. Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies and mobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.

If you have any questions about this story…you are a batshit, paranoid, tinfoil, dog-abusing baby-hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and/or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone. Ever.

This has been a public service announcement by: the Friends of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST, and the 9/11 Commission. Because Ignorance is Strength.

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I'm not sure if a couple of these are disinfo, but I knew the truth before I collected any of these.

Nah, that's a 757 dude. Are you blind?

Something spooky to add.
"On March 4, 2001, Rupert Murdoch's FOX Television aired the pilot episode of an X-Files spin-off series called "The Lone Gunman" (The title is taken from the name of a team of investigative reporters' government watchdog newspaper). The program depicts a staged hijacking of a passenger aircraft by a hostile faction in the U.S Government, who take control of the plane by remote control and attempt to fly it into one of the twin towers of the World Trade Center. "

youtube.com/watch?v=26g18Dg7db4

Were the Jews doing some heavy fucking foreshadowing?

>vkbP4GOD

Fire is hot. Heat travels. Go to fucking school you moron.

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Just a (((coincidence))). Nothing to worry about.

NBC reports on damage from collapse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzxzU4kCn0Y

The reporter explicitly states that the cars (including the ones in your/my picture) were moved to their current positions. They didn't catch on fire there, they caught on fire much MUCH closer to the buildings, probably from burning fuel from the initial explosion, or burning debris in the collapse. They were then moved a few blocks away during the cleanup.

2:05 - But even more jarring I think is this scene right here. Look at these two cars placed on top of each other.
2:20 - Moving over you've got another car they moved here.

Trees dont melt. Trees also dont have 100s of tons of weight on them.

coincidence they haven't perfected black magic and caught small glimpses of the future or known full well and warned us as part of the ritual.

i visited the memorial room with my boy scout troop they had the oldest and youngest scout write our names in sort of a ceremonial visitation book

i was the youngest so i got to sign it

they had guys just walking around with Uzi's everywhere

>everyone else was doing it

Clearly, I'm very blind.

You, my friend, are a scumbag.

How does a building collapse due to simple fire?

>>Also building almost always will collapse vertically downwards, even in partial collapses.

Bullshit

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They literally sold themselves out, explained their plan and motive and everything, months before the attack,
It was an inside job, for sure

And for those who are against the controlled demolition idea, how do you explain
>thermite found at ground zero
>the support beams of the buildings slashed diagonally, which is common with controlled demolitions.

I have a feeling, like all 9/11 threads, this quickly filled up with pro-Gov story shills.

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>they had guys just walking around with Uzi's everywhere
That'd be pretty kickass to see. Bet it was scary as shit at the time though.

The fire in the twin tower was a half mile hire than building sevens roof dipshit.

The fire was far from building seveb

BUILDINGS FALLING MELT BEDROCK IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS

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>fell at free fall speed

fail.

Explain why the penthouse on WTC 7 fell before the facade?

I like this guy.

Out of curiosity, whats your view on Snowden?

Yeah. I don't know what I'm seeing desu.

>Icons of NYC at damaged in stories and comics that portray an attack on NYC.

Who would have thunk