Serious question, how much about the Holocost actually happened? A lot of what I've heard sounds silly...

Serious question, how much about the Holocost actually happened? A lot of what I've heard sounds silly, and quite frankly ineffeciant for mass genocide, but the only response from the deniers is, 'Hurr durr jewish lies!" . Cite sources or fuck off.

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cnn.com/interactive/2015/01/world/auschwitz/
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
archive.org/stream/256ReferencesTo6000000JewsPriorToTheNurembergTrialAnnouncement/256ReferencesTo6000000JewsPriorToTheNurembergTrialAnnouncement_djvu.txt
ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p421_weber.html
etymonline.com/index.php?term=holocaust
cbsnews.com/news/man-who-claimed-he-escaped-auschwitz-admits-story-a-lie/
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Frist you have to prove to us it happened.
Then we can prove to you it didnt happen.

CNN said so, bam.
cnn.com/interactive/2015/01/world/auschwitz/

Approximately 600,000 dead Jews due to typhoid and other communicable diseases.
Literally a max of 1/10 the report.
And the term holocaust began in 1917 during ww1 era referring to the displacement of 6,000,000 Jews in Russia who migrated to Central Europe and continued to suffer as reported by the New York times

Basically the holohoax was a Zionist manipulation and exaggeration of factual data for the exploitation of western governments in order to obtain the nation of Israel

this is total bullshit a few pictures of barbed wire, of some train and a small oven where probably 1 in five jew didn't even fit in... This is no proof?

I want to believe but you there seems to be only autists here.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

Here have a picture with that

Sources within the text here

archive.org/stream/256ReferencesTo6000000JewsPriorToTheNurembergTrialAnnouncement/256ReferencesTo6000000JewsPriorToTheNurembergTrialAnnouncement_djvu.txt

or this one

according to the red cross only 300k jews died. they died because of typhus.

Benjamin Freedman Speech 1961
Youtube it bitch.

>ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p421_weber.html

>inb4 hurr leuchter not a good source

Fuck the kikes who smeared him afterwards. The dude built actual REAL gas chambers in half a dozen US states. I think his opinion on the holocaust is as sound as any rabbi's.

German Jews were expelled from the country, they were not exterminated.

Germany viewed the east (poland) the same way the USA viewed its west, a frontier to be settled. Polish jews were rounded up by Himmler's SS and used a slave labor to replace dying polish pows and fuel this movement, and make himself rich.

The original plan was to keep moving the slavic jews east, eventually dumping them in Siberia. Unfortunately for the germans, the Russians pushed back, which resulted in the problem of "now what do we do with them?" As resources tightened, Himmler eventually decided on extermination. Less than 3 million were killed in "death camps." The other half were sinply shot, mostly by non-german allies in eastern europe wanting to show their lotlyalty.

You know what, enough. The Holocaust happened and no amount of petty researching that you conduct could ever change that. There is NOTHING to expose, literally nothing. Everything happened exactly as it has been stated, ann frankly, I'm beginning to get really offended by this board.
You want a source? Read a book.

etymonline.com/index.php?term=holocaust
Why would jews call this genocide a sacrifice?

Im not interested in denying or confirming the legitimacy of any source, so far the only one in the thread that has linked somthing that's not a jpg, plaintext file, or youtube video, so thank you.

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Every argument against six million has been debunked multiple times. Look up literally ANY infograph some retard shows you and you'll find that it's been refuted.

None of it. A holocaust has come to imply a large scale mass murder (and I'm aware originally it meant burnt sacrificial offering and that Abraham in the bible was going to holocaust Isaac to Moloch until Lucifer intervened and saved him... Or something like that).

Expelling jews to the Pale of Settlement and interning them in labor camps during the war is not a holocaust. Even if some of them died. Ironically those camps allowed them to avoid most of the horrors of war and survive to tell the tale. Unfortunately jews being the dramatic bullshitters and pathological liars they are exaggerated that tale to the power of six million and included such gems as millions of them being gassed to death by CO in diesel exhaust (despite there being not lethal amounts of CO in it and plenty of oxygen to keep them alive). Oh and the holocauster on rails that ended in blades and gore or whatever. And the steaming-to-death and underwater electrocution rooms. And geysers of blood.

Gas yourself. No need for war now.

Well if you hear anything negative about Leuchter just remember the kikes threatened his life, firebombed his house and threatened to kill his wife too.

Most of it is all lies and slander.

Great argument mate

I did not ha to provide any argument since your intervention was completely empty.

Not evidence, but a damn good argument.

>glory
>mason hat

What does this mean?

He was exposed as a fraud long ago. Do you still believe in creationism too?

Holocaust happened, but for every holocaust victim there seem to be at least 10 "holocaust survivers" with utterly fantastic stories that are all "real" because they happened "in their mind".

A realistic number of holocaust victims that is backed up by historic records is 1.8 million. Those were not all Jews, but the number includes political opponents, foreign intelligentsia, mentally ill people and gypsies as well.

No he wasn't. He was seen as very capable and an expert in the field until his report and the jews slandered him.

Quite frankly this is my reason for questioning the narrative given at all to begin with, I have no interest in politics or race notions but I do have an interest in conflict and war and it just seems like such a silly notion for an otherwise competent leader.

Makeshift gas chambers are always going to look shoddy at best. I don't get what you're trying to say. They could have worn gas masks to deal with the leaking from the door, it still would have worked. Think about it, they needed to improvise in order to gas a lot of people at a time, all the other gas chambers in that photo look like they wouldn't be able to contain a large number of Jews at all.

Probably a couple hundred thousand to a million jews were killed, mind you, many of them died because allies bombed infrastructure as well as some of them being retarded/disabled so they were executed just like any other retard

He was seen as capable because no one had ever investigated him. He's a fraud and you're a joke for actually believing him.

I think for this job, using any kind of blade would have been faster and cheaper then.

Nice argument faggot.

Inb4 the south African kike comes in with 200 posts about muh 6 gorillian

>CNN
A guy on ABC admitted he lied about being in Auschwitz.
cbsnews.com/news/man-who-claimed-he-escaped-auschwitz-admits-story-a-lie/

>makeshift gas chambers
???

Auschwitz was open for years there was nothing "makeshift" about the chambers.

Most of the holocaust happened. There may be room to argue numbers or deny individual anecdotes, but there is no denying that Germany discriminated against, imprisoned, and murdered the jewish people among other groups of undesirables. The questions about doors and poison used and all of this other stupid shit are just retreading arguments that have been debunked a billion times and frankly it's fussing over details that don't really matter(How can the holocaust have happened if there's a photo of a wooden door with no context that I am going to assume is a chamber door to a gassing chamber!?).

Also the excuse that Germany wasn't at fault for jewish deaths and that it was all typhus and famine due to allied bombing is pure bullshit. Even IF there were no proof of torture or murder by the Germans, the allies cannot be responsible when prisoners starve to death when they're held against their will. It's not that allies' fault that they died, it's that they were forced to remain in these camps while starving to death.

It would be no different from a country using children as human shields, and then blaming aggressors when they blow up the children to get to the people they're fighting against.

So the tl;dr is yes, it happened, and any minor nitpicking where conspiracy theorists "don't understand" something isn't really relevant or has already been addressed.

you'd better check Sup Forums more often
there is a lot of threads about that matter
all those thread have an OP filled with informations and links
your thread sucks because it's only a question
you have no other point than please rE explain me once again that the holocaust didn't happen the way historians say
this is not the right place or the right way to gather informations about the truth
you suck OP, you're a lazy ass person who can't search for information because he is way too lazy

Well, he's right. Leuchter was investigated and he didn't actually have any formal training, education, or expertise to make any of the determinations that he claimed. That you're attempting to use him as a resource when he himself had to admit in court that he essentially made everything up is a bit silly.

Nice sources m8.

>cnn
top kek

>but there is no denying that Germany discriminated against, imprisoned, and murdered the jewish people among other groups of undesirables.
Sure there is. They didn't murder any of them. Some prisoners were executed for committing crimes. There were a couple isolated incidents of wrongful executions and the executioners were punished for it.

But you're right they did discriminate against them and expel them to the pale of settlement in Poland but that already had the largest jewish population before the war and was the only viable solution to the jewish problem since they didn't want to go to Palestine (at the time) or Madagascar. This is not a holocaust though. Calling it a holocaust is perpetuating a massive lie about systematic extermination which did not happen. There was no mass murder, no holocaust. That's an objective fact.

Perhaps to atone for 2000 years of rejecting their messiah.

true answer OP, no one knows. The world is so corrupt by the victors making history that no one knows the real past for most of everything.

Unless you got a time machine, it's mostly just what you believe in, either that is true and factual or it is fake and a lie.

I, personally, am skeptical now since it seems everyone and their mums try to demonize Nazi's and being Satan's minions when they were just stepped on Germans who got fucked over by ww1 for trying to help a neighbor country, who then got manipulated but helped by a crazy hippie.

Nazi's were still human. Yet all my history classes would say otherwise.

>He has worked on and designed facilities used to kill condemned criminals with hydrogen cyanide gas, the same gas supposedly used to kill many hundreds of thousands of Jews at Auschwitz.

If anyone is wondering Leuchter is a pretty smart guy and the state had no problem having him work on execution devices and such until he did his gas chamber reports. His contracts with the state were cancelled solely because of jewish outcry of antisemitism. They didn't try to slander his knowledge and expertise until years later.

It's all in this link

ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p421_weber.html

The infamous ashkenazi crackpot "scientist", Albert Einstein (who was a communist by the way and exhibited symptoms of autism spectrum disorder in common with psychopathy) puboished his theory of relativity in without any empiracle evidence to back it up.

We see this all the time, would-be jewish "experts" without any formal training are given free reign to make all sorts of bullshit claims unquestioned. But if a goy lacking the kosher-approval credentials is making claims that jews don't like they can simply brush it off.

Fact is though Leuchter knew what he was going and did have enough of a background to be a credible source. He may have not gotten enough pieces of paper blessed by rabbis and therefore they can dismiss his findings because of the ashkenazi kosher approval information authority institution says so but that's irrelevant to the facts.

Reminds me of a few years ago when somebody wrote a book showing that the Taj Mahal was a pre-existing ancient temple prior to being a Muslim tomb. The guy even had the actual old receipt from the sultan paying for the refurbishing work of an old temple along with other evidence including journals from the British saying they designated some sites as Muslim and others as Hindu to separate the demographics. His book was criticized and his lack of credentials called into question and for the most part the claim was dismissed DESPITE THE OBJECTIVE SELF EVIDENT FACT that there is a plethora of proof showing it was a Shiva temple turned into an Islamic tomb and that a few centuries ago this was common knowledge and nobody gave a shit until modern times.

>At the 1989 IHR Conference, Leuchter dramatically called for a neutral, international commission of engineers, historians and scholars to go to Auschwitz and the other camps, and to either confirm or repudiate his findings. Not surprisingly, those who have been trying so hard to silence and discredit Leuchter have ignored his challenge.

>First, the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow, Poland, corroborated Leuchter's findings in a confidential September 1990 forensic report. Although it was not meant to be made public, Revisionists were able to obtain a copy. An English-language translation of the complete text was published in the Summer 1991 issue of the IHR Journal.

>Second, Austrian engineer Walter Lüftl explicitly endorsed Leuchter's findings in a March 1992 report, which appears elsewhere in this issue of the Journal.

>Third, German engineer Germar Rudolf, a highly qualified professional, has thoroughly supported Leuchter's findings in an exhaustive report that will probably be published in 1993.

Lel I remember the kikes crying about Germar too.

"I have been vilified by the caretakers of the Holocaust dogma whose desperate tactics prove the failure of their arguments. My livelihood has been destroyed, my character has been impugned and my life turned upside down. But I will not bend the knee: Not now, not tomorrow, not ever. Time and reason will vindicate the Leuchter Report."

Poor guy. Shouldn't have made the jews so angry.

The gas chambers didn't happen, lies created by Russia and pushed by large sections of world jewery but the National Socialists did kill many hundreds of thousands of Communist jews and others who were enemies of the state.

Most of the powerful jews left Germany way before the war even started.

No side in that war were innocent when it comes to horrendous crimes against other peoples

boo!