1 in 4 millennial western men virgins

>Less sex please, we're millennials – study

theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/aug/02/less-sex-please-were-millennials-study

So Sup Forums has no doubt seen this article posted around here, usually in an attempt to debunk Sup Forums's belief that degeneracy (in this case casual sex) is on the increase. And on the surface that is indeed what it says. But some based user last night took a new look at said statistic. Turns out women are having as much sex, or more, than ever. But for 25% of men, wizardry is the only option.

Points for discussion, does lack of sex lead to mental illness? Why is this topic taboo (as in the truth of the matter is played down, words that describe it (incel/loveshy) are attacked).

Other urls found in this thread:

theerichammer.com/2015/06/12/stat-of-the-day-25-of-japanese-men-are-virgins-at-age-30/
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11662500/Rise-of-Japans-middle-aged-virgins-a-quarter-of-over-30s-have-never-had-sex.html
thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/the-unsexy-truth-about-millennials-they-re-poor.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Kill all women.

virginity isnt a thing. just lie

legalize rape

just got done fapping to bara porn
no regrets desu

How's life being a fag holding up for you?

3 in 4 are not. why are you a loser?

>a fucking leaf

LEGALIZE IT

DON'T CRITICIZE IT

It's the life I chose.

So Sup Forums. What's the reasoning here? Women getting more picky? Men getting worse? A bit of both?

Men can't be virgins since they don't have hymens.

lucky guys i was born in 1988 and have fucked several whores.

I wish i was a virgin and could get a nice mormon girl :(

>we hate degeneracy
>IF YOU DON'T FUCK AND INSTEAD WAIT FOR THE RIGHT WOMAN YOU WANT TO MARRY, YOU ARE A FUCKING MILLENNIAL AUTIST
Make up your mind Sup Forums

>implying this 25% will get a waifu

Modern women would rather convert to Islam and marry Muhammad.

80 percent of women think men are either ugly or they're waiting for you to talk to them.

Thing is, i really can't care about most people let alone a woman.

Most women arent sluts or femnazis....but cunts.

There's a good damn reason for this.

Millennial women are pure fucking evil.
I'd take 2 ISIS's, soviet Russia and and the goddamn Chinese army, over having to deal with millennial, western women.

Shit's the reason I'm a godamn race-traitor who won't bother with white women.

>does lack of sex lead to mental illness?

People sometimes cite priests as being examples of this, celibacy driving them to molest children, but when you look at it more closely it's actually that their is a massive amount of active homosexuals in the Catholic clergy. Homos quite often see nothing wrong with fucking boys in their early teens.
So, the extent that they are deviants is only really the extent that homosexuals in general are deviants.

I don't believe being a virgin would make you mentally ill IF it was not tied to rejection. The permavirgin doesn't want to be a virgin and feels completely undesirable even if it might actually be reasonably voluntary.

For instance Elliot Rodger's dad was rich and famous, he drove a Beemer. He could have got a GF if he actually spoke to girls instead of glaring at 9/10 blondes.

Nothing wrong with wanting to get married, some women actually believe the "I have sex because I want many experiences before I get married meme", I blame the jews for that warped judgement of some women

I'm not surprised, I had a feeling that the truth was that the number of men having sex had dropped through the fucking floor while women were still fucking in consistent numbers if not fucking even more than before.

Nobody should be surprised by this however

Sex since the age of 18, but what about under the age of 18? Most normies lose their virginity in their early teens. Why doesn't the data account for that?
>Because normies are breaking the law

Then why put that fact next to male virginity numbers? Why are you people so obsessed with virgins?
One reason for the fucked up society is the fact that people don't even grow up in a proper environment anymore. Instead of pressuring men and women into fucking left and right we should probably let young people grow up and gain some experience before they put a child into the world and suddenly have to be terrible fucking parents that are responsible for another fuckup.

In reality, that #2 guy gets more than one woman.

Source: I'm probably in the top 30%

Not just a western thing either.

>Stat Of The Day: 25% Of Japanese Men Are Virgins At Age 30

theerichammer.com/2015/06/12/stat-of-the-day-25-of-japanese-men-are-virgins-at-age-30/

The system works!
For the superior race

Superior race according to women?

185 cm or taller
Big chest and arms
Fun and outgoing
Socially dominant

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee all the aryan manlets
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee all the aryan blobs
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee all the aryan outcast
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee all the aryan subhuman race

Skin colour don't matter in the real world, having friends, lifting weights and being alpha it's all that Matters

Tell me racist faggots for Sup Forums Did you lift today?

>But some based user last night took a new look at said statistic. Turns out women are having as much sex, or more, than ever. But for 25% of men, wizardry is the only option.

Did you even read the article, retard? It claims its moreso for women.

I don't understand why people post this, probably every day, with the same conclusion that its only men that's having less sex, despite their OWN LINK REFUTING THEM.

>Columbia
>trying DESPERATELY to feel superior to others

top kek.

>we should
>we

It's not we pushing sex on kids.

Doubt it. Some of the 25% may have got some in high school but most won't have. The other 75% of men will have taken care of the girls at their school.

Porn and the internet in general is more gratifying and requires less energy than having a sexual partner.

>I CAN into statistics.

I knew somebody would embarrass themselves.

why does everyone have to be a whore now

and why do I have to have a problem with this.

There's a big difference between being a whore and being an unwilling 25 yo virgin.

For comparison in the 60s, men were virgin into their 20s at a rate of 10%, women were at 2%.

Okay. It went from 2.3% to 5.4% for sexually inactive. Just according to the article that you posted. Ergo, the idea that women are becoming sluttier is wrong, at least based off this article.

Its fine if it hurts your feelings and you don't want to think about it, but again, just going by your article, it disproves your own claim.

Fair enough. Better wordking would be 'men are getting less sex'. Or 'less men are getting sex'. Happy now?

These numbers are in contradiction to many others published elsewhere. It's probably closer to 1 in 10 at worst.

>Happy now?

No, since women having less sex than the 60s is true, again just by the article, though one could argue that's due to virginity pledges or what not (per the article) and the idea of saving it for marriage, or what the fuck ever, while for men its involuntary celibacy.

you sure?Link to other stats?

ask yourself

I don't even see what you're trying to say here. But this bit

>while for men its involuntary celibacy.

Anyway, this thread wasn't so much about calling all women whores as it was asking why modern men are such fuckups and if this will be an issue.

>I don't even see what you're trying to say here.


>So Sup Forums has no doubt seen this article posted around here, usually in an attempt to debunk Sup Forums's belief that degeneracy (in this case casual sex) is on the increase. And on the surface that is indeed what it says. On closer investigation, this is actually what it says, but the people who post this every day forever cannot read the article.

>mfw i lost my virginity just one month after i turned 18.
Reeeee i was so close.

80 / 20 rule.

80% of females only want 20% of men.

>Mini kek

For you manlet =)

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>US research reveals more sexual abstinence in 90s-born young adults than those born in previous decades.
>Abstinence
>Implying it's voluntary

In my defense the 60s were incredibly whorish. The way the media span this story is that loads less people were having sex. The reality is that most of this lack of sex is down to an ever-growing line of forever alones.

>does lack of sex lead to mental illness?
no and I hate the fact that people nowadays think that you need to have sex to have a fulfilling life

I live in an old catholic city full of churches and monasteries. I live next to a monastery and every time I see the old nuns walking in the street it fucking breaks my heart

There is a reason they don't find enough people anymore

>its the weekly "I can't get any ass, its all women's' fault" thread.

> Among the “virgin” students at a recent art class was Takashi Sakai, 41, a heterosexual male who with his respectable job and charming smile appeared to be a far cry from the stereotypes of social misfits.

>“I’ve never had a girlfriend,” he told AFP. “It’s never happened. It’s not like I’m not interested. I admire women. But I just cannot get on the right track.”

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11662500/Rise-of-Japans-middle-aged-virgins-a-quarter-of-over-30s-have-never-had-sex.html

Why the west and Japan?

Sex is the act that continues our species. Stop with this whole "le sex is overrated" shit.

Where do you take that 25% number from. I see it being repeated here but no source. It's seems hugely exaggerated to me. I'd say about 5% males after 20 are virgins, 10% at most.

What's your explanation? Women getting more choosy over partners or modern men are fuckups? Or both?

This is truth.
I would still be virgin if I didn't have some bros that manufactured the perfect situation for me.

I don't say it's overrated, but you definitely don't need it to live a happy and fulfilling life man

This is what incels cannot understand

I'm fine with fapping
Also I've only got to wait 7 more years to become a wizard!

more like hourly.

maybe if you shitlords weren't so racist you could expand your dating pool.

I always thought you guys were smert. It is not stated directly but

>The research, conducted in the US, found that the percentage of young adults aged between 20 and 24 who reported having no sexual partner after the age of 18 increased from 6% among those born in the 1960s, to 15% of young adults born in the 1990s.

>15% of group not having sex

>The trend was also greater for women than for men: the authors found that 2.3% of women born in the 1960s are sexually inactive, compared to 5.4% of those born in the 1990s. That, the authors suggest, could in part be down to a rise in so-called virginity pledges as well as concerns about social stigma.

>5.4% of females in group not having sex

Assuming equal numbers of men and women were interviewed for this the the average (15%) would be found by (women not sexing + men not sexing)/2

Which is

(5 + 25) / 2 = 15

A large part of the problem is cultural mixing.
While there's nothing wrong with most other cultures, I'd find it alien to date outside of my culture.
But almost all the non-immigrants available to me are taking gender studies.

>checked
Probably both

>dating pool
I'd have preferred not to date; prior to my current relationship(2 years now) I was 19 and I hooked up with a woman who was 35 in less than 4 hours of meeting her.

Shitty economy probably.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/the-unsexy-truth-about-millennials-they-re-poor.html

>shitty economy probably
this is one factor.

> 35

maybe hot but jesus christ thats baby rabies danger zone
I bet a lot of Sup Forums could benefit for a qt black/brown gf btw. Their loyalty numbers are high so in a lot of ways they're more compatible.

Anecdotal, but those numbers seem legit.

The people I hang out with used to be on the "loser" side of the spectrum back when we went to school. We're adults now, but roughly 3 out of 12 of them are still virgins after 24. And out of those that had sex only half had sex with more than two different girls.

Then again I don't think most of us ever really tried to score girls either due to low self esteem or perceived social status. Or in my case severe body image issues.

Like I said, purely anecdotal but it adds up. There's an at least 2 incels at my work place, and one incel in the making. Out of about 9 people in my department.

How much are you going to fucking spam this?

bahahah

losers

I'm a pretty shy guy and still I have had 14 sexual partners so far, and none of them ugly or fat.

How retarded and / or ugly do you have to be to not get ANY at all??

>Then again I don't think most of us ever really tried to score girls either due to low self esteem or perceived social status

I think this is a big part of it. I wonder if not having a gf all through highschool is cause or effect?

>Tell me racist faggots for Sup Forums Did you lift today?
You do realize that women aren't attracted to muscular men, right? If you're going to the gym because you think it'll help you fuck women, then just don't waste your time - the only people who'll want to fuck you are the other dudes that also spend all their free time in the gym.

Just don't eat like a pig and maybe do a bit of light cardio/body weight exercises and you'll look fine, won't be ridden in stretch marks or stuck on a strict diet regimen because "muh macros".

Once you get to the bottom of it, physical attractiveness plays such a small role in finding a partner, it's just that Sup Forums is so off-base about it because they're all shut-ins.

Where is this 25% figure coming from?

sex is vastly overrated.
put your winky in a hole and thrust about for 10 minutes.

Its underwhelming really when you do it.

see

>hourly

>You do realize that women aren't attracted to muscular men, right?

Simply not true. I have a reasonably good looking face, but throughout school I was a wimp and barely got over the kissing state with women

I started to work out and suddenly it was as if I had to keep them away from me sometimes.

Sure, ONLY working out all the time is stupid as hell.

But being reasonably fit is simply good looking.

PLUS, you produce more testosterone, which simply put makes you more extrovert and talkative

I've been wondering about this too.

It seems retarded, even the abstract of the research says that less men are virgins

And I have no idea where the 25% figure is coming from

I had a GF for 1 year in high school, and maybe another GF for a year if you'd count that one as a relationship. They both came on to me though so I never learned to approach women. They usually approach me.

I don't go out to normie venues enough.

For the other guys, I think they tried at least a few times but got rejected every time. Both of them aren't very attractive though so that didn't help either.

The two incels at work, one is an assburger who's also incredibly picky. The other has full blown autism so I don't think he's gonna get some either. Final kid is about 5 foot tall and looks like he's 11 even though he's 21. So fat chance on that too.

The supreme gentlemen was a discusting happa with autism who grew up around very happy successful people. Also he couldn't talk to grils because he was a fucking out of place happa. No wonder he shot up some hoes. Nobody cares how muxh money your father has or will sleep with you for that unless you are super rich tier maybe.

I'm pretty sure almost all of my friends are virgins but I wouldn't know because I haven't asked and they don't say. I don't think female virgins over 18 really exist desu unless they're extremely religious.

My friends are sjws too.

yeah i know man i fucked 12 chicks in the last week with my bigdicc 14 inch since i started lifting my bro i also grew to 190cm from lifting

The abstract of the research says that 8.2% of men born in the 1990s are virgins. Whereas 8.7% of females born in the '90s are virgins

>demonize normal male heterosexual behaviour
>shocked that men aren't getting any.

Well seeing as your social circle is basically mental problems central, maybe it isn't like that for everyone
Well it's much easier for women to get some simply because the standard men look after goes down exponentially after x days of no sex.

This is the proper answer. A muscular guy who's a pussy with no game has a bigger setback than a limp noodle who can talk good game. Women are social creatures first and foremost.
But that doesn't mean being in shape isn't a huge leg up. Looking disciplined and capable preselects you before your mouth even opens.

What is the matter with him? Isn't he some AZN with severe penis issues?

Someone please tell me that there's an archive of all these comics.

And aren't there parodies of these comics?

(But nothing compares to SAF.)

As you would have guessed from my posts, I'm not a pussy slayer. But nothing turns a woman off faster than acting like an SJW.

I know who's a virgin and who is not simply by the fact that the people that did have sex don't mind talking about it. Also I just realized 2/12 are incel. One guy managed to get laid too, with catastrophic after effects.

Manchild central more like, There's only one guy in a steady relationship. And a few more that don't have too much trouble getting laid. There's only a few guys that do have some issues, but they're not as pronounced as I made them out to be. We're all pretty social, if not dorks. Personally I have no trouble at all talking to women except that I'm just oblivious to their advances.

Well who fucking knew. Sup Forums was right again.

idk how my friends act around girls because we never meet girls in the first place. Most of them don't advertise their political beliefs, just that when they do they sound like buzzfeed talking points.

don't get me wrong, working out is fine - but it seems that a lot of people take it way too far for the wrong reasons.

It can be a great confidence booster, and is a good way to stay in shape, but just don't go down the path of taking it to extremes and start juicing or eating 6 meals of brocoli and chicken breast every day for the rest of your life.

Also, while any kind of physical exercise will cause your body to produce more testosterone, among other hormones, the amount that it increases is pretty nominal, and so the increased extrovertedness, etc. is purely psychological, and not a result of higher test levels.

What other studies?

...

>Looking disciplined and capable preselects you before your mouth even opens.
this is true, but it simply gets you over the first 'hurdle' of attractiveness. Sure, looking athletic will get you in the door, but that's not to say that it's at all important in the grand scheme of things, and indeed a lot of women aren't into what men think they're into in terms of physical appearance.

I've got an athletic kind of build and do fine with women - mostly because i'm sociable - but know plenty of guys that are bigger than me who just can't seem to strike up a conversation.

where? It says this.

>The number of U.S. adults who had at least one same-sex partner since age 18 doubled between the early 1990s and early 2010s (from 3.6 to 8.7 % for women and from 4.5 to 8.2 % for men).

Are you trying to ruse us lad?

see

Because any 5/10 woman can go to a bar and fuck a chad who is having an "off" night. And since they were able to fuck the chad, they think that that's their standard and start rejecting guys who are realistically on par with them. Then you get OP's pic.

very misleading title - i want sex, I just can't get any

>Well seeing as your social circle is basically mental problems central, maybe it isn't like that for everyone

25% of men have mental problems? Probably not that far from the truth tbqph

Of course. Society doesn't give a shit about men. If this was 1 in 4 women not getting laid (despite trying), there'd be constant effort to try and correct this. Since it is "pathetic virgin men," they don't care.

And it'll only get worse. At some point I can imagine >50% of men being virgins.

But if you do it, they win.

I don t know , i m 22 i consider myself virgin even tho i lost it at 16 with a hooker , i had a bad infection that caused me an awfull ACNE , so my brain is fucked , i still have scars and holes , i consider myself ugly , don t know , i didn t even try to ask a grill out , i m pretty sure i d get A NO anyway

Was the hooker worth it? (I'm assuming the infection didn't come from the hooker) I have been considering using one.

This, if it was for women we'd be seeing a whole movement for it with shitloads of angry tumblr comics.

I caved when I was 27. Found a petite Ukranian qt who would otherwise be totally out of my league. She was totally cool about it, was great to get it out of my system.

No not worth it , , hooker at 16 infection at 18 , and i did a check up after 6 months cause i was a bit scared even tho it was protected , i was clean