who wins?
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who wins?
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stop this
Apologize for polish death camps.
If it's an isolated conflict, Ukraine.
If it takes place in our world, Poland.
S-s-sorry
What are you talking about?
sorry
this unironically
[shits on toddler]
If Uke is the aggressor, Poland def wins because of Nato Article 5.
If Poland is the aggressor, Poland still wins.
Ukraine wins because:
-Larger population
-Larger army
-More resources
-Combat experience
-Higher morale
-Higher domestic arms producement
-More patriotic
*blocks your path*
Ukrainian army is outdated, most of them lack supplies.
They lost a war to some Russian rebels in the Eastern part of the country and you expect Ukraine to win against Poland? Larger army means nothing if it's shit
>They lost a war to some Russian rebels in the Eastern part of the country
Ukrainian army literally RAPED russian proxy terrorists back to the border before russia supplied them with the newest weapons and mercenaries. Before they were claiming half of Ukraine and now the have only 2 cities with some villages.
And in this scenario there is no outside support its 1v1 so Ukraine wins.
>le Poland stonk because 211 more tanks
Ukraine can produce the amount of tanks Poland has within months
Ah, the ukie diaspora.
this
Don't know if good bait or stupid bullshit.
Dunno about the world but Russia does for sure.
>no counter argument
Pooland is only strong in movies like Wolyn
>good bait bro, russia does not create buffer states against nato
We create frozen conflicts to hold neighbouring shitstans by the balls so they don't do retarded shit like joining NATO or Romania.
I was talking about how little you seem to know about this conflict, and I didn't say the stuff you greentexted.
>Ukrainian army literally RAPED russian proxy terrorists back to the border
source?
You just confirmed that Russia does not respect you neighbours sovereignty and allow them to make their own decisions and than you Russians wonder why they hate you. They're all nothing but a buffer zone for Russia.
Russia didn't want to lose naval base in crimea and wants to have a buffer zone between the flat plain between moscow and NATO thats why this war is happening
>Pooland is only strong in movies like Wolyn
In a movie in which Ukrainian bandits murder pregnant women, impale infants on wooden planks and wewuzz about being manly n shit?
>your country doesn't respecr your neighbours. We don't respect the ones which are hostile to us.
Polish Ultra-nationalists ethnically cleansed poland after ww2 to the point that a population exchange had to happen to prevent the sick fucked in the head poles from killing more people. You started the tensions between Poles and Ukrainians, Bandera's actions were in mere self defence
t. Igor
>poland gets attacked
>everyone defends them
>ukraine gets attacked
>nobody cares
poland
Damn greentext :(
>my 3rd world small neighbours internal issues is a threat to Russia
Who wins?
Reminder that Balkanians zerg at tanks, have a fresh war experience, have turbo folk as background music and are described as blood letting, blood thirsty savages from Romans in the 2nd century AD to Germans in the 20th century
Ah, so now I see why "Dutch" posters are so rude to us all the time. It's diasporaniggers as usual.
Yes it is. Partially because there are russians living in those countries and partially because these issues can create hostile governments. Look at Georgia. Good example of how they've learnt from their mistakes and now we are fine with them.
Ok, ok, ok, you seem to be related to the president or something so you know way more than me about why this war has started etc, but I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about how you say that
>rebels controlled half of the Ukraine
and then post
as your source, a fan made (!) video, which shows that rebels initially controlled only the said
>two cities
And if you had actually followed the conflict, you would've known how Ukrainian forces struggled to retake the city of Slavyansk, how they lost the battle of Saur-Mogila, how they got encircled multiple times and how they lost the Donetsk airport. But you said that Ukrainian army
>RAPED
its way through enemy resistance because you're just hungry for (You)s.
tl;dr you are shitposting/stupid, I'm disappointed, have a nice day.
Everyone is hating on Ukraine, this means they are doing something right
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Hrvatska ce uvek da pobedi, vi ste najbolji i najjaci narod na svetu.
I don't think anyone would beat the balks. They turn the ruggedness up to 11.
Tы кyдa лyгaнoчкy дeл, мpaзь,
>I'm talking about how you say that
>rebels controlled half of the Ukraine
and then post
>i said they claimed half of Ukraine, read again
as your source, a fan made (!) video, which shows that rebels initially controlled only the said
im talking about that the rebels control only 2 cities NOW, learn to read again
>its way through enemy resistance
Russian army support
i fucked up the green text sorry pal
>Ukraine can produce
How many tanks has Ukraine produced for the last 27 years?
Yes, Ukraine CAN produce if they want to. The last 27 years don't matter has there was no war till 2014
If west Balkanians marched on Warsaw, The "Rape of Berlin" would become an international lullaby. There is so much seething anger and bombs/assault rifles hidden in our backyards, woe to those who manage to band us together through anger and spite
>Bandera's actions were in mere self defence
Oh yes, especially against infants and toddlers, very dangerous enemies they were
now post when actually the rebels controlled "half of the country" and when the Ukrainian army "raped" them
>Poles killing infants and toddlers is okay, ukranians doing same is evil
I said they claimed half of the country, read again
>Before they were claiming half of Ukraine
>im talking about that the rebels control only 2 cities NOW, learn to read again
I'm trying my best.
>Russian army support
I don't know how much of it is true, but I know that you said that Ukrainian army was owning it at the start of the war, when I say that it didn't. And I provided examples that prove my point.
Please, stop changing topics.
Russia is not a fair opponent to us. Separatists get infinite supply of all their needs. Russia wastes so much money on army so they can afford to transport old T-64 tanks from Krasnoyarsk Krai to Rostov by air (!) just to keep legend "these tanks had been captured from Ukrainians". There was a story about Kalmius batallion which was formed several times because the whole manpower just died out. Infinite soilders, technics, guns and ammo, clothing, supply, parts, everything. For a "rebels" pro russian forces have less equipment shortage problems than Ukrainian forces.
(Them)
Proof?
Belarus.
U can close this thread.
The rebels claimed half of Ukraine as Novorussia at the beginning of the war. But as of NOW the rebels only hold two cities. So, Ukrainian army noot only prevented the rebels from taking half of Ukraine, they literally pushed them back to the border. And the rebels almost lost everything if Russia had not intervened at the last moment. That is how Ukraine raped them.
Generally speaking, both this and OP questions are "easy" to answer. Poland would easily beat both Ukraine and Yugoslavia. Perhaps, when it comes to Ukraine it'd be harder, as there is no such huge disparity in resources(Ukraine has even larger population than Poland), but honestly, economically Poland is so much more powerful, that reason alone would allow Poland to beat Ukraine squarely unless it got surprised early. And that I consider impossible, Ukrainian's military is worse equipped and weaker than that of Poland. Also historically, Ukraine, despite her relatively huge potential it fails to maintain cohesiveness when under pressure.
About Western Balkans, it's 38 million vs 15 million. No chance. Poland has the edge in every conceivable category.
>it's 38 million vs 15 million
This is where our enemies' mistakes start
Don't try, they hate Ukraine regardless of the war for racial and historic reasons
and russia is economically poorer, does it make then weaker?
this is the only time when your painted commieblocks and fixed roads won't help
M80, I don not work for the government so I can't confirm/call out the things you said.
It wasn't the point of my wall of text anyway, I was correcting the Nederland user about how successful your army was.
>claimed
Rebels captured several city halls, that is what they did.
Pictures of Novorussia made by normalfags on the internet are not a "claim".
>NOW
This is what they are controlling since the start of military actions.
>pushed all the way back
This is where all the fighting have been going this whole time dude.
>lost everything before Russia
>this is how they raped them
Here we go again. The fighting is rough, and neither side never got to the "we are in your base, raping your doodz" point.
Unironically Poland
>and russia is economically poorer, does it make then weaker?
Russia is far larger, far more populous, far more militarily powerful and it doesn't matter if Poland has a higher GDP per capita - you take total GDP to compare countries.
Russia GDP: $1,469,341 millions
Poland GDP: $509,955 millions
Ukraine GDP: $104,062 millions
>this is the only time when your painted commieblocks and fixed roads won't help
Are you butthurt that millions of your countrymen come here to work some shitty jobs because even in Poland you will make far more than in your Africa tier shithole?
Ukraine of course. Polish always were shit like warriors.
10/10 bait.
>-Larger population
nope
to expand on that:
According to Wikipedia, the 2017 estimate is 42,418,235. This however includes both Crimea and Donbass. Crimea is 2.4 mln, LDNR is around 4 mln total, so taking away that already lowers the population to 36 mil which is lower than Poland's 38.4 mln
Add to that 1 mln ukropiteks that are working in Poland and can quickly be rounded up in POLISH DEATH CAMPS, and unknown how many but several, no less than 2 million Ukrainians that went to Russia after the war and Urine is left with 33 million at best.
And that is 33 million of some of the worst quality human material the white world has ever seen.
We would never fight Croats.
SRBE NA VRBE
Belarus would unironically win against Ukraine too because it's a country that has its shit together and its people are more intelligent and capable.
now that's some king size bait
the unadulterated truth is always the best bait
Everything you said is wrong, lol.
Are you legitimately retarded?
>me wins me BASH harder
>this is what hohols actually believe
w e w
Why would Croats fight against White Croats?
White Croats is a mememistake. It was mostly Poles migrating from Galicia to USA. Galicia was under Austrian rule and as they were g*Rmanic niggers, they tried to shit on Poles in the biggest ways possible, so instead of "South Poland" they called it "White Croatia".
And so Polacks migrating from this region to USA were called White Croats.
Small scale blitz over a minor dispute could go either way depending on how committed each country is to the cause.
Long term, national-scale, with and without outside support: Poland wins.
B-but I thought we're friends? We love you (or at least me anyway).
On topic: without outside support, you unquestionably win on defense. Could also edge a win invading, but it's a shady one at best, and your chances drop drastically the longer it takes you (and thus war becomes less about military and more about economy).
So if by "win" you mean statistically better outcome if a war happened then yes, you win. Otherwise I call it a stalemate leaning towards your side as the one that has a better opening hand.
woke
retard
Prove me wrong.
>tanktugal
why do they have more tanks than France or Italy
Those in America have nothing to do with White Croats which originated in Poland anyway lmao.
Majority of Croats don't even descend from White Croats from Polish region. It's all about Partitioned Poland.
retard
Keep speaking about matters you have no idea about. I'm sorry history and genetics don't fit your current larping method.
Honey. :^)
;_;
S-sorry, dear Canadian merchant.
>that Latvia having 3 tanks unlike Lithuania and Estonia
Latvia strong!
Assuming Ukraine is doing fine, nukes and nato don't exist; it will not be one-sided enough for a definitive answer and it depends on a couple of factors. e.g: who's the aggressor? who has the early victories, is the war popular, what is the reason of the conflict etc. ?
>wikipedia is lying!
lmao
the one that's not cucked by Russia
Desu Ukrainians would see us as liberators.
You fucking retard. I know that white croatia existed. But Croatians are barerly related to those people.
White Croats in USA aren't Croatians but Polacks, called this way because of Austrian imperialism.
t. nothern p*lack that knows nothing about us proud White Hrvats
>border with hungary
don't wake me from this dream
Considering how many ukrainian conscripts fled to Poland or to Russia and the fact that Ukraine didn't even try to fight during the Crimean invasion? Don't be ridiculous.