Wait a minute, why didn't they just ride the eagles to mordor?

>wait a minute, why didn't they just ride the eagles to mordor?
>lmao just turn off your brain user!

>they could have at least flown them over the mountains in fellowship
Fuck lotrfags, you're all hypocrites all you /lit/ memers too

The ring broke boromir like a twig. Eagles would've just flown them to mordor and landed them all in the middle of an orc army.

Why didn't Galadriel just riverdance to mt doom with the ring?

/thread

Why didn't the allies just fly into Berlin and kick Hitler in the balls?

because its fiction. did you want a detailed explanation oneverything that goes on in middle earth down to the tax policy?

In the movies the eagles fuck up the nazguls, and there are only nine nazguls anyway. Not an argument.

because "Ha haaa! Let's land this thing! It's fucking walk o'clock!"

They would be killed by arrows and other flying creatures like the nazgul asap

This is a bait thread, like every other one you've made so far but for the sake of it I'll explain it again.

The Eagles are only in Middle Earth to act as the Wardens of the Elves, especially Elrond and Galadriel, on behalf of the Valar (Gods, essentially). They're not responsible for the fate of Middle Earth nor even the fate of the Elves. Their only task is to keep a check on them, without interfering too much, if at all.

Then why did they come to Gandalf's aid on those 2-3 occasions, you ask? Because the Eagle King owes the Grey Wizard a debt that cannot easily be repaid.

eagles can clearly fly much higher than where even legolas on steroids could hit them
and the eagles pushed the fell beasts' shit in when it came down to it

both points invalid

the eagles fucking tore through them like they were nothing though

>Because the Eagle King owes the Grey Wizard a debt that cannot easily be repaid

and of course that warrants playing taxi service when gandalf or a bunch of dwarves need a lift to steal some gold back, but not when the fate of the entire world depends on it

I know this is a troll, but there are seriously people who have this line on thinking....

Because, as all good movies/books/etc., it's about the journey the characters take, it's about the changes they go through mentally, emotionally and physically. The ring is nothing more than a tool for the characters development.

That's why the stories don't matter as much, everyone goes through the same shit in their lives, the same shit happens to everyone; dealing with family and childhood, getting together and breaking up, cheating and being cheated on, finishing school, working, selfishness, jealousy, ego, having children, not having children, getting a job, losing a job having someone close die, etc.
The same shit, with some variances, happens to everyone, experiences and stories are not special, fascinating or interesting, it's how someone deals with them and how it changes them which is.

The Eagle king owes the Grey Wizard a debt that cannot easily be repaid

so why can't gandalf just ask them for help to taxi the ring then you fuck

and whyd they come help at the end?

>a debt that cannot easily be repaid
Giving him a lift to Mount Doom sounds like a good way to get started then.

I always thought they lost their evil mojo power or whatever when Sauron was destroyed

>the owe gandalf big time

>but are too proud to give him and his pals a lift closer to Mt. Doom

???

kek'd

Notice that they only appear to save Gandalf or save someone on Gandalf's behalf.
>Saving Thorin, Gandalf, Bilbo + Company from the Warg riders
>Saving Gandalf from Saruman's captivity
>Saving Gandalf + everyone else at the Battle of the Black Gate
>Saving Frodo + Sam from the fires of Mount Doom

It's not about pride or any rules/codes etc. It's just not their responsibility to save Middle Earth or even help saving Middle Earth. Their King was only repaying the debt he owed to Gandalf.

That's it.

...

So why can't they give him and his friends a taxi to Mt. Doom on Gandalf's behalf?

Literally because the author, J.R.R Tolkien didn't want them to.
As to a reason in the books, the Silmarillion makes it clear when "jesus" tells them to not meddle in the affairs of mortals.

How about saving Gandalf and the entire world by flying them to the fucking mountain?

THEN HAVE GANDALF ASK THEM TO TAKE THEM TO MORDOR IF THAT'S ALL IT TAKES

>It's just not their responsibility to save Middle Earth

>but it is their responsibility to save Gandalf and his pals apparently

and doing this would save Gandalf and his pals

>but it's their responsibility to save gandalf's fuccbois whenever they end up in shit
Oh fuck off you fucking twat.

They only come to save Gandalf when he's in dire need of it. They won't fly him and the Fellowship to Mount Doom because that's not their responsibility.

Well Gandalf told them "Fly, you fools"

boney parking

Because they had the element of surprise. As soon as Sauron saw them (and he would), it would be all over. The only reason Frodo and Sam got as far as they did because Sauron didn't know they were coming.

how the fuck is this not a dire need

he wouldn't be in any dire need of assistance if they just gave him a quick trip to Mt. Doom

They still need to land or lower to leave Frodo or anybody else, retard

>imminent destruction of middle earth isn't dire

>It's just not their responsibility to save Middle Earth

The Eagles are a metaphor for Americans in WW1 : they arrive late and steal all the credit

the eagles can't survive temperatures above ~80 degrees Fahrenheit.

even the air above mt doom is too hot for them and they would die.

>tolkiencuck is a broken record

no they cen deploy that little moth to carry the ring down totally undetected

but gandalf and his pals are on middle earth

if they have to save gandalf and friends then they have to save middle earth

They needed to go on the journey because in the end the most worthy candidate to drop the ring in is whoever can carry it all the way there and remain a sane person by the end of it. If you just drop whoever you think is the most qualified person off at the mountain, and they fail, you've just taxid the ring over to evil for nothing and fucked everything up. The journey is the proving ground. The Fellowship of the Ring was made up of various races for a reason. It turns out a little innocent Hobbit actually worked, but it couldn't just be a random Hobbit, Frodo wasn't prepared to do it at the start of the journey, it was only after he went through the journey that he was ready.

So many replies in this thread and they all ignore this post.

Then the moth gets corrupted and it's all worth shit, retard

Have you faggots ever consider the fact that maybe the Eagles would have been up for it, BUT GANDALF NEVER FUCKING ASKED THEM!?

Kill yourselves, autists.

Are you just slow? Or do you actually think the destruction of middle earth would have no impact on Gandalf's health whatsoever?

the real answer is because it would have been a boring book, or more boring

>it was only after he went through the journey that he was ready.
He wasn't though.

he didn't even do it though

he turned at the end and it was only by sheer luck from gollum that he ended up dropping it in

Why didn't Gandalf asked the eagles to fly them to mt Doom?

Moth's have no moral or ethical capabilities. Ergo, it cannot be corrupted.

This will be my last reply because either you're retarded or you're trolling me.

Saving Gandalf from immediate danger =/= Saving Middle Earth.

why didn't gandalf ask them then

because he wasn't in imminent danger

>luck
I thought Eru pushed him.

>the most worthy candidate to drop the ring in is whoever can carry it all the way there and remain a sane person by the end of it.
Yeah, that wasn't Frodo then.

You're a fucking retard.

Because Sauron would have seen them coming and locked the place down
Among other reasons

He wasn't in imminent danger at the end of the movie, either.

HOW DOES SAVING MIDDLE EARTH NOT EQUATE TO SAVING GANDALF

ANSWER THIS YOU FUCK. IF MIDDLE EARTH BLOWS UP IS GANDALF NOT HURT?

He was though.

Destruction of the Middle Earth is immediate danger.

his friends were

his friends weren't in imminent danger when asked to go to mount doom, he can only use the eagles when he or ring bearer was in danger

why didn't sauron always have the place on lock down

>thinks moth's have morals
>calls other people retarded
They are biological machines, bud.

psst.

Sauron winning doesn't mean the end of Middle earth.

Get rekt.

The fellowship was in imminent danger for virtually the entire trilogy. What are you even talking about?

You're not even funny and you're trying too hard at this point.

Because Tolkien can't write for shit. Remember when random nobodies stole that gem shit or whatever from Morgoth in Silmarillion? Lmao

Or when Sauron got beaten by a dog. A talking dog.

surely it means the end of gandalf though

or at least the end of gandalf's friends, which the eagles also seem responsible for

oh why were most of them alive by the end of it then

He was battered to hell but not really corrupted by evil to the core, someone truly corrupted would have been delighted to leave with it. Frodo held on until the end and didn't even make it back out of the mountain before he lost the ring and it got dropped. Compare his composure to the last person who refused to drop it in.

>Or when Sauron got beaten by a dog. A talking dog.

what

>Why can't Eagles just fly into enemy territory which is garrisoned by powerful military units and magic that can fuck up the eagles

He got corrupted and he literally tried to run away lmao what are you doing?

The eagles only rescued gandalf off orthanc because radaghast asked them too

It's not a joke. It's pointing out how retarded the notion that literally anything is utterly corrupted the moment it comes into contact with the Ring. You may as well be arguing that Bilbo's pocket was corrupted to evil as well.

if they couldn't drop them off directly at mt. doom they could've at least dropped them off much closer, saving them a large portion of the trip

Because they survived the danger. Is it that you don't understand what the words "danger" and "imminent" mean? Is that what you're having trouble with?

He was a big dog.

Any living being can be corrupted if it comes in contact with the ring,

This is my last you btw, not wasting my time with a retard like you anymore.

Arrogance
The fact that a hobbit, of all things, managed to carry the ring all that way while evading detection, death and corruption would be absurd to one as arrogant as Sauron

why didn't they just leave the ring with tom bombadil?

he didn't know a hobbit was carrying it did he? it could've been anyone.

why not just keep it guarded?

>Any living being can be corrupted

oh no then middle earth will have to cower in fear before a dark lord MorMoth :O

Because he would get corrupted. No amount of reddit memes and retarded pastas could save him.

It can't be corrupted because it has no thought process. It has no capacity for morals. It's an insect that is magically directed, but of itself has nothing to corrupt. The fuck are you even talking about?

>it could've been anyone
Except anyone else would have been corrupted and refused to destroy it

>why not just keep it guarded?
It's surrounded by an army
in the middle of his lands
full of spies

play the lord of the rings the war in the north up until the first rivendell part and ask gandalf about it

he has some good quips

If magic can control it so can the ring.

I doubt the moth would be strong enough to carry the ring.

He's not corrupted by the ring though. As far as we know, the only incorruptible being in middle earth.

it's been established that the ring's size adapts to the wearer

That's retarded. The ring corrupts. Magic, in general, can do and affect virtually anything. A magic that forces something to behave or move in a certain way is entirely different from a magic that corrupts a moral being and turns them to evil.

Good call. Just wrap that sucker around his little moth leg.

Maybe they did not want to be tempted by the One Ring's power?

>DUDE IT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
lmao, PhD in magic over here

It corrupts the spirit. Moths don't have spirits.

>wind blows it away
Good fucking luck finding it.

Sauron is fucked

>Landed them all in the middle of an orc army

why even land there just drop the ring down fly back, done, problem solved tolkien is a hack.