The general consensus among friends and family of mine, (and Sup Forums) is that most everything started going to shit around late 2007/early 2008.
What happened? What caused this?
A few things that happened during this time, that happened to come to my mind immediately:
>Obama was elected
>Stock crash
>CERN
>Smartphones
What are your thoughts on this? Personal experiences?
I'm interested. Something happened.
RuneScape was ruined in 2007
(((INTERNATIONAL ELEMENTS)))
Nah OP, it went south in 2007, but only after the clusterfuck of 2001-3 came him to roost. In that I mean the war on terror and the housing crisis.
I'd argue it started back in 2006. Maybe even 2005.
Yeah it was shit by 2007. No argument here.
Iphones and the social media use that came along with it. A literal boom mic hanging over every morons head so they can offer any retarded thought that comes to mind, in an instant, that also connected them with every other idiot who agreed with them so they could group themselves together in a show of force against those who disagreed with them. These are the people who once were shamed for the things they believed in, but became almost impossible with the widespread use of the internet.
>everyone joining facebook bc they opened the floodgates to all users
>most people had a cellphone, started using them more often/becoming antisocial
>first giant waves of liberalism in response to neocons spreading, giving way to sjw culture, etc
>internet started slowing down, less sites being used, people congregating in certain corners of the internet and not leaving their hugboxes
>Obama elected in 2007/early 2008
Early 2008 is not November
Smartphones
Tinder , snapchat, private encrypted messaging services. Auto industry, Iraq war and environmentalism beginning of open SJWs and fuckin middle schoolers who thought they were the shit and had a platform thanks to the internet
>muh iphones
I always here this on Sup Forums, i have to believe the people who say this are white trash who can't afford iphones or, even worse, Console-War Anti-Apple faggots.
iPhones had nothing to do with anything and it basically confirms you were twelve in 2007.
In late 2004 Adobe bought Macromedia just with the intention to use Flash for phone content, while that didn`t worked as they expected, it started the era of massive influx of normies in the internet, and paved the way for facebook, etc.
That started our shit internet of nowadays.
Source, me, I used to work for Macromedia.
Yes, there were so many smartphones used prior to the Iphone.
nerd culture became mainstream and social media finally really took off, destroying privacy forever and paving the way for people to soapbox rant about every little thing that annoys them and having the ability to cultivate friend circles that constantly coddle them and their hot opinions
I still blame AOL for letting too many normies in on the secret of the internet.
>tfw Eternal September still hasn't ended
Social Media. Mainly FaceBook.
>inb4 MySpace
Yeah, but MySpace wasn't a venue solely to virtue signal and show your 6th grade friends your law and political science degrees. At most, it was a place for emo faggots to post retarded poetry and show their "friends" what My Chemical Romance songs were their favorite. It was stupid, but a little more lax in terms of the information it asked of its users and the posts of its users.
FaceBook, on the other hand, took off around 2007 and at this point is now a liberal propaganda-machine cesspool on a global scale, open to people of all ages (there is an age limit, but obviously kids have them). It might as well be a global citizen database - in fact, I would guess that it might one day be used for that exact purpose.
>tfw ur dad still won't give you a filepile account
>tfw somethingawful became neo-liberal and fyad is basically dead
>tfw Sup Forums is full of basic bitches and normies now
the internet is dead
im gonna have to start making friends at bars and shitposting irl again
LBGT shit got really big around 2007-2008 too. I remember thats right around the time that gay-straight-alliance bullshit started popping up.
There's been a decline for a long time. Since the new deal I'd say. Key technologies that have increased our standard of living have disguised this but we haven't had the sort of free industry our country was founded on for a long time. We we booming and growing at an alarming rate before, eclipsing the rest of the world who couldn't even come close to catching up. But key socialist policies have held us back sinking us into mediocrity. Now we're closing in on being just another first world country instead of the incredible superpower free capitalism allowed us to be in the past.
2001
When the americans and the world went bananas following the relative sanity of the 90s.
>CERN
>smartphone
Kys
>making friends at bars
You have become the normie.
>The Berenstein Bears changed to Barenstain Bears
Fpbp
I for one blame The Big Bang Theory.
It's been shit since 12,000 BC
>you were twelve in 2007
Fuck off. I was ten
>>tfw somethingawful became neo-liberal and fyad is basically dead
old goon here from '04. what was FYAD about anyway? i heard the original b/tards were from there?
Will 2017 be the next turning point like 2007 was? we are also really close to 2020 now.
Also, when are we officially in the dystopian future?
>CERN
do you idiots really think a physics project has to do ANYTHING with world events???
you know that's as stupid as worshiping the sun right?
>what's this mysterious big machine?
>what mystical space magic could the the Jews be doing with it???
PLEASE tell me you aren't all this stupid
Halo 3 ruined my life man
It's been shit since 9/11 desu.
I unironically miss old MySpace.
Why is everyone's idea of improving something just taking it and making it more restrictive?
>and Sup Forums
You couldn't be more wrong.
Lol was thinking this exact thing
I miss anonymity on the internet in general
> CERN
Not even worth trying to stop them
9/11 was the hammer that dropped the guillotine, it just took 6-7 years for the head to finally sever and die
what ive found in my times out to da bar is that a lot of nerds go out and it's possible to go talking about guns and halo and shit with random people
not women though, they're all fake as fuck
i once watched an episode of that just to see how bad it got
it is exactly as bad as everyone says
>what was FYAD about anyway?
aggressive shitposting and gaudy lookin' jorts
Its da joos man
Atoms are the creations of the devil
>Will 2017 be the next turning point like 2007 was?
2017 will be a very impactful year. What happens in the next 4 years and beyond in America will depends solely on who is elected president.
>Also, when are we officially in the dystopian future?
See above.
My graduation year and the birth of my alcoholism
I'd argue that it was social media. This gave everybody the ability to virtue signal with their support for "correct" opinions, which created a market for producing "correct" opinions. From there it was just a function of capitalism to maximize profit by creating the most correct opinion in line with the views of the biggest donors.
>2017 will be a very impactful year
you nerds say that about every year.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiit
also friendly reminder, jews rock
>mfw I get my Juris Doctor and MBA in 2017
What exactly went to shit?
>not women though, they're all fake as fuck
This is literally why I stay out of bars. Seeing women at bars reminds me of just how much western civilization has fallen, and it's depressing.
That's about right in my experience. Lots of bad shit befell me around that time. It was the beginning of the downward spiral.
Mandela Effect messed up the time line.
9/11 changed America forever at least
no, no and no.....the foundation for the collapse happened 20 years before that. first the s and l scandal of the mid 80s, then a series of banking deregulation which paved the way for adjustable rate mortgages and eventually the subprime mortgages....couple that with the passing of NAFTA and 300 million us manufacturing jobs went bye bye....so really, you should be blaming bill clinton for the recession.....
OP 2007 was only when the bullshit started picking up steam.
First we had the economy dip badly in '99, then came 9/11. That began our new series of wars.
The economy had never really recovered from the first crash, so when 2007 came, well, you see how that went.
9/11 is when things really started going to shit for the first world.
I would kill a baby just to be able to live the rest of my life in a time loop, that starts in 1989 and ends in late 2000. Then do it all over again, on repeat, until I kick the bucket.
> aggressive shitposting and gaudy lookin' jorts
nice. what the hell happened to SA these recent years? it's gone to shit. funny because it used to be the king of internet culture and at its peak even spawned this site Sup Forums that would eventually overtake it. I heard the reddit founders were also goons.
shit, i would do that too. 90's were the best.
>what happened in 07?
You turned 17 and started paying attention to the world beyond your bedroom.
The SA Debate and Discussion forum taught me how to debate, but it wasn't until Donald Trump that I learned how to win at debates even when I'm wrong.
Facebook used to be a laugh. Now it's political arguing group think he'll
No one uses it to chat to their mates like they used to. When it shows old photos the commrnts and interactions between my different friends underneath make me sad now.
Also fb deliberately made itself less shareable and social.
And just recently it's fucked page feeds if you run a page. Fb literally cannot stand real interaction. It was about 2010/2011 I think when they started destroying what their business was good for. I think it was about the time the cia bought it?
You say that as if 2016 wasn't a massively impactful year.
WoW was at it's peak. lots of people were indoors all the time playing.
Rise of Facebook, fall of Bebo/myspace/friendster (the less intrusive sites)
Rise of YouTube and fall of sites like newgrounds, albinoblacksheep, YTMD, and Ebaumsworld.
MTV stopped playing music around then as well and lots of other TV networks basically sold out and started airing "reality tv" bullshit.
Also everyone went from Republican to Democrat as Bush left a bad legacy in the name of republicans.
Lastly, it was the start of a huge worldwide depression.
>I always here this
I found the uneducated nigger!
Ready for harvest.
The Higgs should have been found by us
en.wikipedia.org
Housing bubble.
In the uk pubs closed at an even faster rate. Immigration sped up.
I live in London and even then I had no idea it'd get this bad. I thought we'd already hit rock bottom
But the first few years afterwards were "America, fuck yeah! We're all in this together." and then the financial collapse happened and we got a nigger running the country. I still contend that OP is right that we collectively lost our will to live around 07-08.
Its not too late for Supersymmetry
arstechnica.com
The war on terror changed everything desu. So many of our liberties gone, both parties sold out to pro-war special interests. Now we have a generation drowning in debt and with poor overall prospects relative to the generation before it.
I think you're right that it started there, but we didn't realize it until several years later.
Fuck I thought it was only me who thought things went down hill towards the end of 2008
This is when the Anglo empire collapsed but instead of living in the ruins we are hyped up on drugs and in a coma waiting for the machines to be turned off.
Smart phones and social media ultimately made socializing more of a living nightmare because of all the history that is kept on there for everyone to see FOREVER.
Pandora's box has been opened with a lot of the globalist agenda being in full force and were currently in the black.
John Copypasta started in 2007
Was the start of Sup Forums downfall
The subprime mortgage collapse and fallout, and the resulting credit crunch, caused a tightening of the belt across corporate America, resulting in much stingier labor practices: less hiring, longer hours, more outsourcing. That's what we have to thank for a "lost generation" of skint millennials.
Internet activism, social media and tumblr.
> Tumblr is a microblogging and social networking website founded by David Karp in 2007, and owned by Yahoo! since 2013. The service allows users to post multimedia and other content to a short-form blog. Users can follow other users' blogs.
Everything has been going wrong for longer the financial meltdown was just a turning point. Big buissness having its hand of the government's ass is a pretty big factor in causing it. Education system falling apart is another.
I'm reading this with his voice, are you?
Oh yeah I forgot about mtv becoming the cancer it is today
Also how is anyone meant to become a politician now with their every stupid misdeeds and comment stored forever and accessible now?
I don't ever feel comfortableairing an opinion in public anymore. Even out with friends some prat is always filming
I feel so watched now vs how I used to feel even a few years ago
>CERN
I'll bet that your friends, family and you are just all retarded
I don't know how it was in USA and rest of the Western countries, but here i actually didn't notice anything until 2015.
I didn't even care about world events and politics, but last year i started noticing things. Until 12 months ago i didn't care about PC Culture, i didn't care about liberal influence either.
I got quickly redpilled last year, and i changed my views on everything that looked normal to me. I wish i never visited this place.
21 in 2007. Smartphones definitely changed things dawg
But it was the housing crisis that really changed everything. We still haven't recovered
Newfaggot, things were already going south before WWII. And for Sweden at least, this massive surge of SJWism started in 1968.
There was also massive rise of terrorism and more refugees
it's amazing how many people define "going to shit" as "having to deal with unfamiliar points of view"
rather than, you know, actual documented socioeconomic pressures
Thank you for correcting the record
2014 was when shit became irredeemable.
Prove me wrong.
Making me feel old leaf.
But it's not that at all. I've always enjoyed having different types of friends and fb was always really good for that.
Now even close friends have turned into fucking pod people and are parroting bizarre almost communist nonsense
There's something wrong with the earth when there's more honesty and common sense in this shithole now.frightens me to be honest
Don't forget about outsourcing any job you can save a shekel on to Pajeet.
You guys should have just nuked the cunts, would've been cheaper.
Thank you for shitposting
CERN fucked with time a created a divergent timeline. Think hard about it, doesn't it seem like sometimes you have two different memories about 2007?
>cant afford a smartphone
HAHAHAHAHHAHA dude, there are fucking homeless people in Africa with smart phones. Don't be an idiot.
(((stock crash)))
2005 was when it went to shit
Okabe failed to change the timeline. SERN has won
>13 years old
>level 88
>decided to have a laugh
>pick some weeds
>go to bank
>"selling weed. selling weed"
>perma muted
>appeals denied
ruined the game for me.
was it really so long ago when they fucked it up? i have such fond memories
fucking smartphones
when I was growing up I was a weirdo because I liked to sit at my computer all evening and fuck about on the internet
but now you are a weirdo if you DONT spend ALL DAY on your smartphone fucking about on the internet
no one even looks at strangers in public anymore never mind talks to them, friends dont hang out they just start a group text and having dinner with your family is stone cold dead
all normies needed is to be able to get online wherever they wanted, but unlike nerds who were fine staying indoors at a desktop computer they're not savy enough to not take the internet seriously and just treat it like a laugh
so now you have an entire generation of people taking clickbait articles and facebook arguments dead seriously, and peoples entire lives now revolve around what buzzfeed tells them and how many likes they can get