What the fuck is wrong with vegans/vegos?

What the fuck is wrong with vegans/vegos?
Is there some kind of chemical imbalance in their brains?
We are OMNIVORES you literal non-humans. Trump should deport these fuckers too.

Vegan hate thread.

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Well, I'm vegetarian due to faith. In my set of beliefs, its not recommended to eat things that have ctive consciousness. It's not like I'll die, or that its a horrible sin; its just a realization that you are eating something that is like you. Something that lived, something that had consciousness. It doesn't feel right to be the reason for why something had to die. That is a primal fear for most animals, being consumed. You are free to think what you want however, I don't hate or deride you in the way you eat. If you like meat though, I wouldn't recommend going through the same path of faith as I did though or you won't be able to eat it anymore either.

I think I understand your displeasure though, you don't like vegetarians who are vegetarian for the sake of decadence. Which is understandable, these people are fadsters who simply want something to tack onto their Ego. Kind of like people who put stickers on their cars. You have every right to be disgusted by people like those, because rolling around in decadence is pretty disgusting.

Do you eat plants? They lived. How do you think foodchains work? Gj on ruining your health.

JUST EAT A STEAK
THEY'RE FUCKING DELICIOUS

Actually, I don't eat plants. I'm a Jainist mate, and a Yogi at that. My diet is pretty much fruit, nuts, and things that do not kill the host. Like I said, its a matter of faith with me, it's not about common sense or logical sense. It's just a side effect of coming to understand things as I grew older.
I wasn't always a Jainist, however when I wasn't I always liked Fish more than Beef. Then again, came from an Indian family so that may be the reason behind that.

>came from an Indian family
You know whats coming user

But millions of small animals die in the process of growing fruit and vegetables too. There will always be a loss of life when producing food.

>What the fuck is wrong with vegans/vegos?

nothing, a lot of Vegans are the most annoying people you'll ever meet,

but a lot of them are some of the world's greatest leaders and thinkers like Ghandi and Hitler

You don't understand anything about consciousness, 99% of animals don't have fear. People just project their own anxiety on animals. Animals have sweet fuck all self-awareness.

>Indian family

>We are OMNIVORES you literal non-humans

>farm cattle
>fell swathes of forests to enable farming
>cows fart methane
>methane = x25~50 GWP (greenhouse warming potential) of muh diabolical carbon dioxides
>1,000Lts of water per kilo of red meat (*not including processed meats)
>trees felled are what normally absorb gasses
>red meat 2 times per week linked to colo-rectal cancer
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/nihilism 101

Top fucking kike mate thats a good 1

>99% of animals don't have fear.

all animals have fear which is why the process of making a meat kosher is such a pain in the ass, they believe the brain state in fear and panic releases things in the blood that are bad for your health

>We are OMNIVORES
Yeah, that means you can eat either a vegetarian or meat diet, or both.

It means you need both to have a healthy diet, dickhead.
These days we can substitute meat with other things but this wasn't always the case.

Not eating meat is literally worse than racemixing

Its quite true, ever been to New Dehli? I went once, and it was pretty gross. One of the reasons I love being American though.
Aye, that's why I have a strict practice of food preparation and a special kitchen that tries to eliminate that. It's not perfect, but there's effort put into it. Once you get into the habit, it's not really that hard.

What I can't stand are people who try to force their beliefs on others, or onto things that are meant to be carnivores. Giving wheat and byproduct to pets when their diet exists solely of meat. Those people are misguided in their decadence and should be shunned.

Have you ever watched an animal die? I was once a fisherman. Not out of hobby or pleasure, but for food. Have you ever watched your catch suffocate as you pull it from its home? Have you ever seen the struggle to try and remain alive? It is indeed fear. Even the worms I used for bait tried their best to stay alive, they pulled back in pain, they reacted to the notion of Death. They don't have the same awareness that we do, but there is a form of awareness there. That I cannot deny, and that I simply try to avoid. Do you have a pet? Step on its paw and strike your hand against it. Do you see its pain? Do you see its fear?

If you claim to do as such and reply no, then you are blind to life to protect your own ego.

Do you use the porcelain throne user?

exactly, omnivores, so there's no reason to eat meat. probably you also put waterproof watches in a glass of water every night.

And no its not fear as you understand it. You're projecting your human emotions onto an animal.
Animals have a reaction to force, its their instinct to avoid harm. They dont feel "fear".
Men who have seen too much battle can be driven to insanity, or "blinded". THAT is fear. You can't do that to an animal.

A simplistic form of stress is not the same as fear. Not even remotely, fear by definition is an emotion. Next thing you are gonna say turtles like to have raves.

>is there some kind of chemical imbalance in their brains?
Ironically if there wasn't one before they went vegan there is one after.

praise from one of the kings of the realm of shit talk, cheers brother and please get your nation to stop mining uranium and selling it to jews

No, you uneducated dickshit, it means you can eat either meat or fruits and veg for a healthy diet, or both together.

i know how food chains work so i know about bioaccumulation and that more than 90% of pesticides etc. are in animal products. only one of many reasons to avoid them.

Holy fuck, nobody is ACTUALLY this retarded right?
>frogs are amphibious, they get to choose whether to live on land or in water!

Aye. Bathroom usage comes down to culture and convienance. I am an American, I use the toilet as such. Just because I am Indian, doesn't mean I use the street like poor people do who have no availability to use one.
I disagree. It's a negative reaction to an action given. Do it enough and an animal will avoid the trigger point. It is observed even with sponges, If you spray it with a jet stream enough times when it opens, it'll eventually stop opening. This is basic avoidance due to pain reception, a fear, if you will. It's not human fear like we can call upon, but its a baser form of. Primal fear if you will.

If you eat only meat you get malnourished and die young. If you eat only plants you get malnourished and die young.
If you eat enhanced plants and atrificial substitutes you can survive.
Fuck what your stupid wikipedia page says.

>probably you also put waterproof watches in a glass of water every night.

kek

I... I think I wanna fuck that steak

Wagyu steaks are meat porn

I am completely convinced that Vegans are people who simply don't have any problems in their life and need something to bitch about. All Vegans I know have a good job, happy (vegan) relationship and seem pretty well off. They would have no worry in the world if it wasn't for their descission to be vegan.

Probably just human to be unable to simply have a happy life.

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Tl;Dr crazy tumblr special snowflake vegan bitch kills her mother.

kekt

As a former fisherman, I know when I see bait.

naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html

Veganism is unhealthy and should be illegal for children.

>Jain
*throws garlic, mushrooms and tomatoes at u* nothing personnel kid

> my own family accused me of somehow hurting her by replacing her murder gelatin death evil pills with the good vegan heart healthy pectin pills

Vegans are science deniers, proof #1914390.

Its a suffering for the sake of spiritual morality. I agree with you that you shouldn't force it upon others who don't understand it, (Children, Mentally Unsound) or cannot go through the process in the first place. (Carnivorous Pets)

No. Humans are closer to carnivory than plant eaters, for example compare us to a chimp. Look what chimps actually eat, they're around 4-6% animal proteins (not including insects).

Now. A chimp also eats twigs/ leaves, because they have a large hind-gut which also provides them with protein/ short chain fatty acids.

Chimps have a relatively low caloric input as they rely on the hindgut (like a cow) to provide them with extra energy, they're closer to ruminants than humans (hindgut volume for a chimp is around 50% of total gut volume, whereas humans are around 20%).


A chimps hindgut can provide around 30-40% of its daily calorie needs, however it is also an expensive organ (not efficient).

Humans moved towards eating animal foods as they are higher in caloric density. This allowed us to shrink our hindgut and increase our brain volume.

Humans do need meat, and especially animal fats.

We do not have a large hind-gut. Our second meal effect can a

> I don't eat plants
>fruit, nuts

Fucking retard.

I really miss garlic and mushrooms.
>Fruits are plants
>Nuts are plants.
I bet you think that Planes are cars too right Ausslander?

This is an extreme form of projection you have, if you will. Responding to stressful stimuli is not even remotely close to fear, if you will. The sponge responding to external stimulation doesn't even have pain receptors, it is just following primary chemical reactions which are an automated system of problem solving, if you will.

You sound hyper emotional, if you will. If a sponge has fear than you might as well say that aspirin fears being dipped in water and is screaming which is the fizzing sound as it dissolves.

>vegans

do not eat the animals directly

eat their food so they starve to death
>(also poison them by the millions when they get close to our crops)

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Meat is for degenerates. You're just a drug addict who needs help.

You can beat this.

You know that the streets you walk were once hope of countless animals?
The house you live was once home of many different animals
The farmers to provide you with your fruit have to kill countless of insects
...

Aren t you an hypocrite?

Why would you even join Jainism, anyway?
I mean, Jainism. It's like the worst parts of Hinduism and Buddhism.

Do you even believe in certain Jain things like samsara and stuff?

Ignore these faggot australian abos, you seem like a cool guy. I'm not a vegetarian, but I do hold a special respect for Jainists. Religion done right.

Try living without vitamin B12

damn that is some gorgeous marbling. makes me feel good about my all-meat diet desu

>i hate happiness
>if only the world were even worse so people wouldn't worry about anything other than not dying

age old fake

even the link screams "garbage"

LOL.

I tried being vegeterian for a bit and generally felt better. I also felt like I could eat junk food more and not get fat.

I started eating meat again cause it's just too good and I felt like I was missing something every meal.

If people feel better with it they should do it, but doing it just because of liberal beliefs of saving animals and the ecology is just naive. if you dont eat meat or animal related stuff you aren't saving the world one bit.

Modern meat production uses ridiculous amounts of energy, water and food. Every person abstaining from meat is making it so you can have more, what's wrong with that? Stop forcing your world view on to others faggot.

No it's more like they're both machines.

Jainism makes fuck all sense because they don't eat eggs even though it still adheres to their religion.

cuck

>ameridiot's diet consists purely of hamburger

pottery

>POO dribbling from mouth.

Where does Fruit and Nuts come from retard? If you end up with Walmart/Koles/Costco you've done something wrong.

I can respect that.

Red meat is shit senpais, try to be without for a while, you won't get sick again. Used to get the flu and stuff all the time when eating red, not anymore.

Eating veggies, chicken, and occasionally some fish.

Bonus: Avoid processed sugar also

I take it you've missed reports and studies that plants are showing signs of intelligence as well? Just because it's not flesh and blood, doesn't mean it lacks a consciousness.

Life eats life. You think bacteria gives a fuck about you once you die? We're nothing but a bunch of monkeys that, at times, got too smart for our own good

Don't be surprised if science proves that plants are conscious beings as well within a few years. You know trees "send" resources to the weaker trees in their vicinity. What's that? That doesn't seem mindless.

Like OP said, we are omnivores. Then stupid people convinced themselves that A, B and C isn't good not nice, and they stopped doing it.

There is also no reason not to eat meat

b12 isn't made by animals

yeah if you don't breed and kill animals in reality they are still bred and killed

hundreds of millions fewer animals were killed in the US lately because people bought fewer animal parts but it totally doesn't change anything

The vegan is a myth.

heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes

muhamed pls

Fuck dude I'm a vegetarian and I don't want to be associated with people like you.

nothing
they are just normal people

stop shilling for the meat and dairy megajews

So step on your cat or dog and hit it then.
Do it repeatedly, do it everyday if you are confident in your beliefs. You are trying apply to non living mindset to the living, if it were that simple then we'd know all the mysteries of ourselves. We'd understand psyche, mind, and why we have come to be. You can explain plenty with practical thinking, you can't explain everything with it however. If you do so, it makes you unempathetic, it makes you cold and mechanical. It is good to be wise, but if in that you lose heart, then what is the point?

I cannot be held accountable for the sins of my fathers.
I cannot be held accountable for the sins of others.
I actually grow most of my own food, and the stuff I don't actually grow through other Jains to procure. If you are serious about something, you find ways to try to keep up with it.
I sacrifice comfort in the age of decadence for the sake of faith, if I am hypocritical in that, then so be it.
It really wasn't a wake up in the morning sort of thing and saying "Oh I'm a Jainist now." It was just a snowball effect from living a long time and thinking about this sort of stuff. It was more of a way to continue my own beliefs, while finding a community that had similar. Then I became so entwined with it, that I chose to remain and teach others within it. As per the other parts of Jainism, I do actually believe and teach, however being a modern American I try to explain through a school of logical thought and metaphorical explanation.
Thanks mate.
Yeah. Jains believe in non-violence against animals, I believe in non-slaying. So when I first started off, I was fine with stuff like eggs and honey because it didn't kill anything. That has changed though through the years.
It comes from the tress I pick my fruit and nuts from. I cannot be held responsible for the sins of the farmer, however he is a Jain too, so I know he tries his best to prevent himsa

that one again

>we should go from X to Y
>no because currently we are at X

Thanks mustachioed Austrian man.
In Jainism we believe in the downward triangle of Senses. at the top are 5 sense creatures like you and I, most Jains will only eat things with 1 sense. Yogis like myself stray away from violence and death in general, so it's limited to a very few things. We've had this mindset for a couple thousand years now.

That's okay, I'm a Jainist and I don't want to be associated with people like you.

>you should buy these
>because they are for free

So?
I will never understand people that are so controlling about other peoples personal choices.
I don't give a fuck about your dietary habits, as a matter of fact I am glad that you found something that makes you happy. So is it too much to asked that you give me the same courtesy?

Life is short, painful and ultimately pointless. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn't harm other people.

Huh huh, as I said the vegan is a myth, the actual vegan is a hypocritical shithead that enjoys the smell of their own rancid farts.

Some vegetarians are alright though.

>side effect of coming to understand things

That's code for, I took way too many drugs and now I have mental disorders.

It's a nice way of saying "I've lived a full long life with many experiences I try not to remember."

These past 67 years have been interesting, and today's youth certainly is different, albeit a little bit more sassy than we were at our youth time.

How do you make up for your vitamin deficiencies?

You don't believe in the ancient Tirthankaras and stuff, surely? Like Adinatha, who lived for billions of years and was taller than the biggest of trees, and also deny Ishwar?

>almost 70
>on Sup Forums

Livin' the dream.

On a side note, do you eat eggs?

At my age there are a lot of deficiencies. However I try to find vitamins that fall within my dietary restrictions. There aren't many, but the few that do, do the job well I suppose. I'm alive after all with still a fresh mind talking to today's youth.

>Is there some kind of chemical imbalance in their brains?
Actually yes, essential precusor amines are needed to make neurotransmitters from meat.

Stahp the bait, Hans!

My people from Serbia still kill animals (pigs, sheep, etc) the old fasioned way, meaning taking the animal, tie it up, and cutting a hole in a throat with a knife (pic related), then letting it bleed out.
I still enjoy my meat. Not because im a mentaly derranged person(s), but we know that animals were killed before us, now, and after us, we are made to eat them, and they live because of that.
Pure common sense.

lol man you listen to your cult leader way too much. It comes out in your writing super hard. You aren't divine mate, you are a poo skin with a god complex.

Also way too cherry pick. No I won't injure my animals, they do have a central nervous system which can relay pain responses. Also household animals have been bred throughout the years to have a larger frontal cortex so they are relatively smart in comparison.

That being said what you are talking about is conditioning, only with stressful stimuli. You are talking so much shit that is borderline schizophrenic. Talking about the unconscious mind and state of being has fucking nothing to do with not being able to eat fish.

>as long as it doesn't harm other people.

caring about humans - as opposed to SOME humans - but at the same time not caring about animals is such a weird combination. i get both or neither (don't agree with the latter but at least it's consistent) but being a human-loving and animal-hating cuck is so stupid and pathetic.

>its not recommended to eat things that have ctive consciousness.
Eat insects. They have no real brains and don't feel pain.

dont care what people eat but why are vegans specifically so likely to announce they are vegan out of fucking nowhere

delete this!

Poland bringin the bantz
But shit man, just seeing this pic makes me puke, id rather kill a baby deer with my bare hands and eat it raw, not my way, not being edgy fag here, just thinking to the extremes, cause for me that pic is extreme

our food production industry is far removed from the natural order of things

vegan/vegetarianism as a reaction to that makes sense. if we possess the capability, as a species, to debase, torture and slaughter sentient creatures on an industrial scale, perhaps we should turn some of our resources to discovering a cruelty free alternative.

if you live a natural life, eat anything you can run down yourself

you don't have to go full vegan to get the benefits. just avoid gluten and casein. drink fluoride free water. bathe in chlorine free water. your body will appreciate these things.

After my siblings got back from college all their worthless friends were all wearing veganism and vegetarianism as a fashion statement.

You don't know what you are missing.

nigga please!
>The Clintons were just outed for backdooring the deal to sell one-fifth of the uranium production capacity in the US to the Russian government.

Well then, agree with you freedom, that's the point, keep it in good measures, i mean steak stays on the plate, but dont be an idiot and just consume every plastic shit that is there

It's nice that you know the stories of old English friend, however that's more of a spoken Torah thing if you will. With the Jewish community, old stories are part of a spoken Torah, it's not really canon, but important regardless. I know of the stories, but I practice a logical school of thought for a modern age. I try to relate to an alien age that has changed drastically in the time that I have lived in. It may not be right to the conservatives, however it is whats applicable to you youth. For it is not in we elders that our faith finds life, but in the minds of the youth.
A lifetime ago when I first started. I don't now.
I don't hate you or deride you for that. Some of my people make poop in the streets. That does not mean we are all street poopers. Culture is a part of all of us, if culture is what you know, then how can I hate you for it? I cannot be mad at someone who poops in street, because that is what they know. I cannot be mad at a man who eats meat, because that is what he knows.
By deriding me passively, it could be assumed that I've gotten under your skin friend. That's okay. That means you are reacting to something that challenges your way of thinking. By mocking, throwing it back, acting disgusted, you are taking your first steps to realization. If you ever want to learn more about Jainism, you should go to a monastary sometime. We'd be more than happy to have you.

No thank you, they also fall in line with the level 4 senses. The dietary restrictions have thought of a lot of things long for several thousand years now.

buyer's remorse but for a lifestyle

you dont need to eat insects to eat something that doesnt feel pain. fish & lobster dont feel it either.

...

how can you hate vegans when pic related exist?

I know pretty chill vegans not constantly reminding everyone that they are

But they are toxic due to mercury content. In case of insects, you can breed them yourself.

Vegans are tards. Moral vegetarians are tards.

That said, ive been eating 90% vegetarian this past month for health reasons and feel great.

I still eat meat because im not retarded just cut out all processed food in favour of raw veg and unprocessed meats.