who would win an all-out war between Red vs Green, if Grey remained neutral and uninvolved?
Who would win an all-out war between Red vs Green, if Grey remained neutral and uninvolved?
Clearly, read.
everyone who isn't fighting, obviously
also your sides are so retarded I'm assuming you're actually a canadian
Reds
They got Greatest Ally
what if saudi was green and italy was neutral
Green BTFOs red in military strength. But really, what is this map supposed to be based on.
Red already wins in Europe and the Americas so I guess it's done at this point
Red has more and better nukes.
>Green BTFOs red in military strength.
Yes tell me how the UK, Turkey, Scandinavia and Portugal will compete against France, Italy, Spain, Poland and Germany, which btw is an united block
Only real armies in green in Europe is UK, Turkey and that's it
Iran, Japan, Brazil
Italy would end up finishing on the winning side regardless
Didn't see Japan. They would have to deal with Korea, don't think they can send help
Brazil same with Argentina and Mexico but it will get btfo
The middle east would be a serious threat though, true
With the power of friendship.
The UK only used you and even betrayed you
You're just mad France's girlfriend country prefers the BPC instead.
treaty of windsor eternal
Reds have Ukraine, so greens are instantly fucked.
Germany is the only respectable country among the red
Don't France have the most badass solders in Europe?
>greens
>montenegro
the victor is already decided
Not that easy to say. If Greece, Turkey and Iran attack Europe first they risk to lose middle east to the red ones, mainly because of Israel and UAE. Japan has no strong milliary anymore Korea could overtake it. South east asia should be overrun by the greens ones.
Actually, the one who controls Middle East and Europe basically wins.
p.s Italy will win anyway
Crna Gora Balkan Luxembourg stronk
[spoiler] Italy turns green [/spoiler]
>Red already wins in Europe
Unsure of that. Uk's might matches that of France's and both countries would not dare use nukes so close to one another, but Turkey is actually a huge military to deal with.
It would all depend on how valuable Germany, Spain and Italy would prove as allies.
Should Germany quickly enter Reichmode it'd be doabl though.
And once the fight in Europe is over, the rest is irrelevant : the factions that has the nukes and has won ovber the European continent can just rain nuclear strikes on their ennemies from afar and beat them into submission (both France and the UK can reach any region of the globe with their missiles).
So really it boils down to "who wins in Europe in a fight between - yet again - UK & friends vs France & co."
colouring Italy any shade was a mistake
It really depense how fast Germany/Japan can go into war mode.
Japan's gt access to basically every island in the pacific except Hawaii and the US military atolls
Red effortlessly stomps, several of those nations have extremely advanced weaponry like leopard 2a7s and gen 5 fighters and the rest are fiercely defended or have natural geographic boundaries.
But can Japan protect himself against Korea?
Germany may have an underfunded military but they also have some of the biggest defense industries on earth and France has much better planes than the UK.
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I feel like Egypt is being slightly underappreciated here
Red will win, many countries have nuclear weapon, better tech and war experience on their side
This is an extremely unlikely geopolitical configuration, those alliances would not last a week. On just the strenght of the Euro nations involved red is the stronger side, tho UK vs France is basically a MAD scenario.
>France has much better planes than the UK.
source on that ? The UK has better navy for sure though.
But yeah, I agree regarding Germany's capability, plus if they were to put their industry at the service of sustaining a heavy war effort, that would mean victory.
The German industry machine backing up the French military with Spain & Italy giving a hand would spell swift victory on European mainland at the very least.
UK vs France is a complicated scenario though.
doesn't Iran have nukes?
I do not know but we will switch to their side last minute
brump
Assuming nukes are off-limits, Green would probably win.
UK and Japan are practically uninvadable by anyone other than Clapistan and have the naval power to economically cripple Red via sea blockades (especially with the land route between Asia and Europe being cut for Red).
Middle Eastern Green states would mop up Red ones in short order, then would move through the weak and relatively isolated Balkan states to link up with the Central European Green states. Assuming Denmark, Belgium or the Netherlands were still hanging on, you could then have a multi-pronged invasion of Germany which would decide the war. France and the UK are about on even footing militarily, and the other European militaries are all useless, while Turkey's is one of the biggest in the world, so I think the balance of power would lay on the Green side.
If nukes are allowed, then Israel kills everyone (including fellow Red states).
this isnt the 19th century, fighter jets and bombers are crucial, and red easily has larger and better air forces
thanks for the elaborate response. I think another question is how long central europe can hang on
I believe we could win argies in a war and we can't lose in the forest, so in America we (green) would win...
Major theaters
>Balkans
>English Channel
>Lybia
whoa this is awesome! Interesting two fronts in Thailand. Looks like the levant would be pulverised
>korea
>presenting any threat to Japan
Green would stomp.
Germany alone would beat everyone else
didn't work out so well for em last time...
green takes east asia, latin america and the middle east
red takes Europe. no idea what happens in Africa
Red has the mighty winged hussars, they cannot lose
The Jews
>red takes Europe.
except for mighty albion
The world
I don;t really see nukes going off at all in this scenario, too close proximity and the divisions aren't really very geographic, they'd end up with too much collateral damage to their own allies
green by using brazil and indonesia to win using pure manpower
no nukes of course
Red, they got Israel
Red by a long margin
Fun fact: we invaded New Zealand for a training excise once
>indonesia
they could roflstomp australia but how would you mobilize those troops anywhere outside of asia
>Best korea is red
:o)
We'd beat indonesia actually. They can't reach us. Sad thing is we'd have to just Dresden + Napalm all of Indonesia. So yes we could win but we probably wouldn't be willing to
>reds conquer Portugal, Benelux, Denmark and Eastern Europe
>Royal Navy protects Britain, Norway and Sweden. War of attrition on Swedish-Finnish border
>glorious Greco-Turkish army holds reds from advancing through the Balkans and into Near East
>Greco-Turkish-Arabic-Persian forces march into Syria and Israel, overrunning them before all getting nuked by Israel during collapse
>Nippon rearms and conquers Korea but also gets nuked by North Korea in the process
>Australia annexes NZ
>Greater Siam Empire conquers SE Asia
>Brazil makes inroads in Argentina
>Iraq, Iran and Qatar blockade UAE and withhold oil exports to Europe causing shortages and hampering industry
>meanwhile shitskins in Europe riot and cause devastation after Middle East is nuked by collapsing Israeli regime
>Middle Eastern forces are too devastated by Israeli strike to make progress into Europe
>Red European forces suffer from fuel embargo and internal unrest
>Peace treaty signed
>Korea united as Japanese puppet state
>Thailand starts Siamese Empire
>NZ become Australian state
>Brazil and Argentina settle on similar borders
>Israel reduced to minor state and Palestine established
>European reds demand reparations paid in oil but undermined by their own Muslims and left-wind
>stalemate between European and Greco-Turks and no change
*blows up the öresunds bridge* hehe ops
the jews
green has unbeatable navy
>War of attrition on Swedish-Finnish border
great response. this is one of the more interesting fronts of the war. If the germans are being dealt with by the brits and sweden can focus entirely on the baltic front I think they can pull it off, but if they are distracted by conflict to the south finland can Winter War their ass
>Indonesia could roflstomp Australia
>With their 3rd world tier gear
>And their 3rd world hand-me-down air force and navy
How do you propose they make it across that ocean right there? they build a land bridge out of all their excess population or come across in groups of 5-10 in little hand made rafts, becoming boat people if you will. And even if they did make landfall, the best they get is Darwin, a tiny humid, hot city of 100,000 people, surrounded by in all directions by thousands of kilometers of desert, abos and the much feared Australian wildlife. yeah nice invasion.
lol salty aus
chile joins green just to fuck up with argentina and serve as a base for the UK, then chile drops the war
all der juden has going for them is the empty threat of nukes which they daren't use
>red has NK, France, Israel with nukes
>green's only nuclear power in the UK
That's probably enough or almost enough, but then
>almost all major powers in Europe are red except for UK and Turkey nearby(which will have Israel to deal with from the start
>Americas are all red except for Brazil
>Australia will dominate Oceania with the help of most of Indochina plus SK
While green does have Iran, Turkey and Egypt giving them power in the ME, and they do have the ability to be competitive elsewhere in Africa, I think red would win.
what about no nukes? that at least makes europe competitive
The sides are too unbalanced, Green has a far superior military and population. Give Japan over to red and then it will look a bit more sensible.
Argentina always wins baby
Las Malvinas
Japan's technology/economic prosperity + Indonesia's manpower would absolutely rape the pacific, including us.
Son argentinas
>Indonesia
Entire air force and navy is comprised of used and disposed of ships and jets from the pre-1990s, some of them ours.
>Australia
Modern ships and jets, shipped straight from testing, electronic warfare jets and LHD that could easily be used as an aircraft carrier by fourth and fifth gen fighters
Gee Pedro, wonder whos going to win that battle for the seas.
disgusting
>Mexico does nothing
I like this
>Switzerland anything but neutral
SHIT hypothetical, apply yourself next time
Mongolia reassembles the old Khanate with Kazakhstan and pals and takes over the world
Red because they have Israel
Red will win, but it wouldn't be a resounding victory. Lots of green have big populations, but shit tech and poor quality militaries.
Turkic Resurrection = euro cucked
but muh France & germany master race!
Green
>portugal beats spain
>uk beats france
>nl, belgium, austria and scandinavians beat germany
>cz, slovakia, hungary beat poland
>turkey beats italy
>brazil beats mexico and argentina
the rest is irrelevant
>being close together is a strength
The UK is significantly stronger militarily than all of the continental European countries except for France's nuclear arsenal. The scandies would hold off Germany while the UK and France destroy each other via nukes, but at the same time, the British navy would not be destroyed and could hit targets up and down the European coast
No not yet, that's what the constant whining about the JCPOA is about
>>portugal beats spain
so it is written, so it shall be
I'd like to change teams 2bh
red
>The scandies would hold off Germany
the best timeline, should have done that years ago
enjoy indonesian human wave escorted by japanese naval/air supports xD
You imply the Japanese will have any spare ships for transport between fighting a bigger problem right next door, Korea. And this in top of the fact we can attack and cripple the Indonesian fleet and their ports before the Japanese even get halfway there.You're too far away and you've got more important things to deal with, sorry Abe, not gonna happen.
don't forget thailand's navy and aircraft carrier
Benito Australini
yes, it's pretty easy for japan to wipe out the combined korean navy and impose a naval blockade which basically dries up koreas without a land invasion, as they are reliant on maritime trade for almost every natural resource including oil (as long as grey countries as china and russia honor the rule). plus, even if the aussie navy defeated the indon navy, you can't press the advantage any further due to the sheer number of indonesian population. also, along with greece (which is also green) japan has the biggest merchant fleet in the world which can be utilized for war effort, so we can do that ;^)
red
Why the fuck would the UK side with turkey and iran over america's greatest ally
Random bullshit alliances there.
>but, ok...
So obviously Straya annexes 8th state UnZud.
Reclaims Papuain about 3 hours, reinstitutes Pacific Islands Regiment of Oz Army like pre-1975.
Fucks over the Indon monkeys. About a week to roll Java, then a few months to go round changing the flags on every shitty island.
We already share an airbase in Malaysia and Singapore has half their airforce and armour trains here so they either ally or get rolled because limited armour left at home.
Thais then surrounded.
Victory parade down Patpong Rd for beers and blowjobs. Probably 70% shims but meh still a blowjob.
>hit grey wall.
By your rules Nepal untouchable.
Halt operations.
Go on holidays in New Bali Archipelago with surviving Indon monkeys to be waiters barstaff and blowjobgirls. Uglier than thai shims but meh still blowjobs.
>Hope the rest of Red is having a good time, if not don't give a fuck anyway.
greens cause most of reds are surrounded by greens