Inhabitants of any newly formed country, how did it feel to wake up and be part of a new country...

Inhabitants of any newly formed country, how did it feel to wake up and be part of a new country? How was it getting a new driver's license or anything of that sort? Was there any confusion?

How was it, in other words.

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I always kek on this fucking name of macedonia

Interested in the question too, however

The name is really weird but I guess it makes them feel not as irrelevant

No, I think it's because Greece would get butthurt

I was thinking on the Former Yugoslav part. Greece is still butthurt at Macedonia xD

I was 6 when yugo fell apart. My father was JRM officer(Yugoslavian navy). I still remember to this day when he defected from his ship docked in Lora naval yard in Split, all decked out in his uniform and went to apply for the newly formed Croatian 4th guard brigade. He was among the first to do so.
Those were the days of pride and glory, Croatians yearned for so long to finally govern themselves.
Alas, 20 years after the war I wish(and many other intelligent Croatians wish so) that we are governed by Austria. I don't care much for Hungarians but Austrians are/were truly benevolent governors that did a lot for the overal benefit of Croatia.
Tl dr: it's considerably better outside of Yugo, and yugophiles are only acting like it because without Croatia they lost access to the Adriatic beaches. But if I could magically set things in motion, I would enter a union with Austria, with their brains and penchant for organization and Croatian's honest people and fine labor force, it would be so good. Holy fuck I went on a blabbering rant

Me too. They have that, because of Greece.

We will find out really soon.

It's pathetic. I attended seminary with a bunch of 'Macedonians' and they are so fervently proud of Alex the great and all that Makedonian stuff. When I pointed out that historically, culturally, ethnically and linguistically FYROMers are more or less cut from the same cloth as Bulgarians, and as such have absolutely no right to usurp Makedonian/Greek culture and history, they wanted to fight me. FYROMers are like an Indian ice cream. It doesn't make sense, it's a novelty, and makes everyone disgusted by it

I can’t exactly answer your question because I was born in 1990 (still in Yugoslavia though).

At first people were enthusiastic. People thought we could develop like Switzerland has, that life would be easier, that we’d be richer, have better lives etc.

From 1990 to 1995 it didn’t look that good. Our economy had to find new ties to the west, because we weren’t a socialist country anymore, so all our exports to balkan went to shit.

From 1995-2007 we had an economic surge. Suddenly we were on par with the west and that is the time period people cite as being the most prominent economically wise.
Then from 2008-2014 recession hit us pretty badly. We’re recovering, but now we’re facing new problems - social (immigrations) and bureaucratic. Our public sector is too big and too corrupt. Not to mention our judicial proceedings are highly ineffective.

Older generations tend to miss the life in Yugoslavia. Everything was more relaxed, everyone had jobs, Tito was an effective leader. My mother still has his picture hanging in the kitchen.

Feels bad. At least I have a Bulgarian passport, we can get those rather fast, and hope we go back to Bulgaria one day. Fuck that Serbo-Croat circlejerk.

I expected you to come earlier. How did Great Serbia work out for you guys

thanks for this
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Serbia from Kosovo to Tokyo

Jesus Fuckin' Christ -- just call it "Macedonia". Give me a fuckin' break with that name.

Not sure if it counts, but one of my earliest memories is when my parents went to vote in the 89 elections in Poland. Mother told me to remember that moment because it was important, that's about it. hth

Nice responses. I believe that Serbia and Croatia are bad countries. I do believe that they have been pretty successful countries. Other countries have not fared as well and you guys have despite the problems.

are not* bad countries

It felt glorious. After 300 Slovenian warriors have slaughtered 10,000 heavy armed Serbian soliders funded by imperialist americans without taking any causalties we were finally free.

The event would be known as 10 day Serbo-Massacre

It's getting better, both are safe clean countries but corruption is rampant. Corruption and nepotism is what choked Yugoslavia to death and successor countries won't be rid of it until old gen dies out

Faggots getting triggered by historical facts.

Peđa tu ste vi turneju davno ispušili. Dabogda ti pasoš do Zemuna trebo.

I was just joking man. Is that seselj? I perfer Arkan. Not sure about Croatia but Bosnians are a non nation. They are just Serbs who were raped by muslim Turks

SOON

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lol butthurt serbia still butthurt

LOL we bombed Slavs to defend Turkish muslims

Topk kek cucked europe!

lol balkans aren't europe, its a wasteland packed with people like yourself. only reason we slapped the shit out of you because you thought your slavic master russia can do something about it. so learn from your mistakes and understand who runs this world slave

and next time ask for our permission sry forgot to add this ;D slaveic

1. I am not a Serb
2. Where does "europe" begin then?
3. Even if "balkans" were not europe Slavs would still be a better choice than muslim roaches.
4. How "white" are you if you consider Slavs to be "subhuman" 30%? 40%?

*Tips kevlar

"Our" your country no longer represents you whitey. You had a nigger president for 8 years. 19 jews in Senate. Plenty of other high ranking jews and even Blacks running cities.

1/64th of his ancestors were potato niggers he's definetely whiter than you "slave" ;^)

Post yfw

is bosnia a good buffer state?

You don˙t even know what he. He could be slightly mixed from 3 or 4 generations ago. He could even be Part native American or Part black or part Turkish.

only there for burek tbf

burek is god tier

Still ironic considering a mutts like him call homogeneous countries slaves while licks kike and chink asscrack.

agreeing with a leaf
thats a first

Or the fact that they call us europeans cucked when their niggers chimp out and attack random whites in mobs. Not to mention 11 million Illegal mexicans which they will never remove.

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Well I was in Elementary school when pic related split..

The only difference was new currency for me, and we stopped to learn the Czech half of the anthem in the school..

Economically it was not so good for Slovakia but nowadays it is still shit :D
Communist(Socialist whatever) still at large at so on..

Notive how a nation prospers under a half-slovene and half-croat but burns to the ground as soon as a serb is put in charge.
Really makes you think.

Are you nuts? With Austri? So they can settle millions of refugees here?

I prefer more personal union with Hungary again.

Croats are listen to much to the west and that is their demise. they should just ignore them like Poland and Hungary especially their "advices".

Our greatest ally.

Your greatest demise is not being kind to us. ^^

>Inhabitants of any newly formed country, how did it feel to wake up and be part of a new country?

>Croatia and Serbia exist since the early 7th century
>Yugoslavia was an artificial shit project that didn't even last 90 years
>''waking up in a new country''

by "you"? You mean Slovenians?

M8, yes I agree a Slovenian-croatian alliance have always benefited the two countres. Think on the 14th extraordinary Congress of the Central comitee what happened in 1989.

But you also aknowledge your politicians contributed to this as well. Even more with you silly demands on sea for which you did not have any claims on first place. Later it was discovered your politicans were fueled by Americans in 2008 to block Croatias bid to the EU. Now of course, a part share our politicians.

What needs to be done is that Slovenia and Croats end their hostility and join the V4. It is the only way to save us both from Brussels rule.

Serbs were never in charge of commie Yugoslavia. Kys

>Serbs were never in charge of commie Yugoslavia

whew, lad...easy there...police, military, foreign affairs, economy, everything had to be run by you guys.

The sea thing and a few other incidents where we our politicians just could not decide on things (probably on purpose) have made us hate each other for no good reason.

Now we hate each other because of migrants. Both of our governments refuse to defend their border and push migrants on each other.

actually the muslim ones got raped the least

I don't remember much, was 8 yrs old when it happened. But yeah, you got new passports and id cards etc. And my parents and their friends had a feast and were happy pandas on the day independence was declared. But i didn't understand much of what was happening.

After that they got slightly paranoid about the war, and mom was scared my father would be drafted. But that war shit ended up quickly for us.

Also, I had stop calling teachers in school "tovarish", since we weren't commie anymore, which felt weird since it seemed natural to call them that.

Where did I mention refugees? Obviously I'm relating to experiences until the dissolution, right after WW1. I wouldn't mind being in a union like that. Huns are alright now but Croats and Huns historically didn't get well together, read about it

Holy fuck you are old. What are you doing with your life man? Do you have any children or wife?

Strange how they had total control of the JNA and a shit ton of other stuff while never being in charge.

The last sentence is unfortunately true. As said Slo and Cro should stop listening to Merkel and Brussels. Tell them to fuck from their advices.

Instead together cooperate how to leach the EU from funds.

The whole fight of the borders is created from outside.

They were in charge which is why Croatians and Slovenians wanted out. They had their "Educators" sent to our lands and forced commie garbage down our throats.

And they always spoke Serbo-Croatian in my land.

they are talking about milosevic
and the fucker did more harm to serbia than anything else
since ww2 serbia hasn't had a single leader who tried to make life for us better
only self centered fucks that brought this country deeper in the gutter
hell who knows if we'll exist in 20years

This to be completely honest, Famiglia.

You thought Milosevic was the president of Yugoslavia and now you're making other claims in hopes of looking a bit less dumb. Just kill yourself.

>They were in charge which is why Croatians and Slovenians wanted out.

Yup and blacks are poor and commit crimes because of systematical racism.

Well, m8. You obvsiously do not know Croatian history well enough. We had also bad experiance with Austria and their germantisation attempt as well. So, this some kind idea about union with Austria is frankly disgusting

What I am speaking is from modern point of view. Hungary is the only croatian neighbour with whom she has good relationships. Hungarians were the only who gratulated when Gotovina got acquited and their politicians were the only foreign one who comemorated the fall of Vukovar.

why does a shitty apartment in coastal croatia cost 180eur/night whereas in Bohinj you get a 4star apartment for 90eur/night in high season?

I do not know. Why are Slovenians coming to our sea at all? It is not that we depent from Slovenian tourist as they relativly spend little money.

Anyway, are you a Čefurje mate?

How did Milosevic harm Serbia?

WE WUZ NATO you serbshits.

Pro tip. Don't trust Croatia. They don't respect deals and laws.

not him, but it’s not uncommon for slightly older people to visit this site.
I, for one, welcome older people. There are too many edgy and meme-driven teenagers here.

Living more or less an ordinary life. No kids or wife. Slightly jaded about life in general, probably have depression or something.

Also, 32 yrs old isn't all that old, i know a bunch of Sup Forums visitors older than me.

nah, i’m not a čefur / kifa.
It just seems weird that there is such a huge difference in price. I recognise most people prefer the seaside to mountains, but still, the discrepancy is ridiculous.

I agree that Slovenes generally tend to spend little money on vacation. That’s why many like to spend their vacation in turkey or in tunisia for 500eur in a 3-star hotel for a whole week (airplane ticket included), than in an apartment in croatia for 1400eur per week. That might change now that both mentioned countries are becoming radicalised.

32 is pretty old for 4 chan. Dang man want to talk about life and stuff?

There was a guy in /adv/ who was 72. Also a guy in /po/ who was 60 something from Japan.

sheeeit dawg im 28 we're not old.

>gypsylord chetnik completely misses the point
wew
guess thats what happens when you have an average iq of 89

>milosevic didnt seize control of 4 yugoslav presidency votes in a illegal power grab and subvertion of the political and administrative structure effectivly making him the main authority of the yugoslav presidency
>milosevic didnt pursue centralization into a serbian central authority
>milosevic didnt carefully support and spark ethnic conflicts in further efforts of both power- and landgrabs
>milosevic isnt directly and mainly to blame for the destruction of yugoslavia and the demise and death of thousands of serbs
10/10 best leader ever

I find Sup Forums still best source of satire and humor around desu. Maybe it will be the same for you as you grow old. You don't change that much as you grow older. Anyway, i check it daily along with Sup Forums, and news sites. Its routine. it's not like i hang around here all day.

I am 23 and i already feel old and bitter. I can˙t have fun, i am annoyed by everyone especially our whores. I try to be a nationalist but sometimes i just wish they were raped by a pack of niggers.

I am 23 and yet i do not know anyone my age that cares about politics. All they care about is shitty games, their jokes are your average normalshit and any "edgy" humour scares them.

Because you niggers gave them money

Crucifixion quotas and human blood sports soon

oi stop shifting blame. Your politicians have fucked you over several times we did not harm you in any way.