i expected a lot, i was looking forward to see the movie since months, but it was a lot better than i anticipated. i literally had goosebumps at the end and even cried a little. How the fuck is Mel Gibson so good?
It was pretty shit. Boring loverboy backstory with teary fuckboi as leading man. Editing was especially shit. Felt like another boring war-film with no real substance. A docu on the real thing would be 10 times more interesting
Elijah Wilson
I can't believe people are memeing this as a good film. It's just bad. Literally can't think of a single good thing in the flick. You only like it because you like the politics behind it, that's pretty sad tbqhdesu
Ryder Morales
>You only like it because you like the politics behind it which politics behind it are you talking about?
Adam King
top kek
Justin Russell
I love how hard this movie was shilled here when it first came out but then after the torrent dropped and the slapstick webms were posted almost everyone forgot about it.
Nathan Russell
This was cringey as fuck
Ryan Cruz
Did Captain America go too far?
Landon Myers
idk dude i really, really enjoyed it.
Gabriel Brown
It's a great movie. The fighting wasn't supposed to be photo realistic it was supposed to be visceral and shocking to crowds jaded by movie violence. The only way to make an audience that's already seen SPR and BoB and Lone Survivor etc. feel 1/10 the horror that Doss felt was to make it over the top.
It's also a testament to how degenerate we've become as a society that milquetoast Christian themes in a movie about a man who's only notable because of his beliefs can trigger people and cause them to whine about "the politics behind" the movie.
Jason Kelly
The cheesy first half contrasts really well with the savage second half. If the film began that bleak, then the audience would become anesthetized to it and the impact of the violence would lessen. It's expertly-made pop cinema. Way better than Dunkirk.
Hudson Cox
Wrong
Joshua Barnes
You mean the anti-gun, anti-war, pacifist politics of the movie?
Justin White
it was really overrated
Aiden Watson
I don't really get how he did it? So what? God literally gave him the strength to do that? Was that the message? If so, then it was just bullshit. He probably lied.
Carter Scott
>He probably lied. He wasn't the one who told people the story, his squad-mates did.
Joshua Richardson
(You)
Aiden Williams
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Gavin Lee
this was just ridiculous
Dylan Morgan
No it wasn't. Not the context of the movie.
Hudson Foster
They all lied. The story is ridiculous. By himself, drags over 70 guys during a battle through the night just because of "god". No.
Hudson Nelson
and what context was that exactly?
Noah Taylor
The politics behind the movie is about Mel Gibson, not about the actual content of the movie itself.
Elijah James
OP here, looking at some of the fighting scenes afterwards, yeah sure its not completely realistic. But if i would let my autism destroy even the smallest movie pleasures for me, then hell, i couldnt watch anything. Im glad a lot of people also enjoyed it, the ending was just amazing in my opinion, and im really glad to have seen it finally. im also looking forward to dunkirk a lot.
Jaxon Edwards
Christianity, patriotism and antisemitism. Don't get me wrong, I like those things too. But that doesn't stop me from seeing that this "film" is but a flick.
Jordan Wood
Well the guys he apparently saved all say the same thing, and their injuries prove that they were saved. So either they all lied for no reason and there's a massive conspiracy to attribute the works of many medics to just one, or it's the truth.
>just because of "god" Not because of God, because of belief. It's a movie about faith itself, not Christianity in particular.
Camden Ortiz
I think it was garbage. Garfield looks like faggot and didd't convince me otherwise playing that religious goofball. I know it's a true story, almost, but the guy just got very lucky. That's it.
I skipped the end of it because it was just so fucking redundant.
Wish I had looked up the story beforehand, if I had known it was some bullshit christianity I would've passed it.
Jaxson Davis
Not even going to watch it after seeing this stupidity.
Gavin Garcia
True and honest Christian kino ranking approved by God Young kino > Silence >>>> HACK saw ridge
Jordan Kelly
Juxtaposing extreme gore and chaos with a Hallmark-movie narrative set up. That scene in particular is so chaotic that you accept that he would do that within the logic of the movie.
Jayden James
protestant epic The Tree of Life >>>>>>>>>>>>>> every Catholic middlebrow movie of the past decade
Isaac Scott
I gotta say "The last samurai" is doing the same for me. Goosebumps after the rain scene.
Hacksaw Ridge is not good. It aspires to capture the terror of war, and then proceeds to the Call of Duty-esque scene where he's dragging Vince Vaughn on his jacket while he's shooting Germans like it's nothing.
It completely butchered the classic bootcamp in war movies; I had zero connection to his squadmembers when they were sent off.
The movie forgets the pay-off, which is when the soldier gets to return home. This is an essential part of war movies because we get to experience how the character has evolved, as well as the emotional aspect of seeing family and loved ones after visiting hell.
We also had the bootcamp rivalry, but we get dragged out to the ye olde "I was wrong about you" bullshit.
Go see Dunkirk instead.
Joshua Mitchell
Hacksaw Ridge or Dunkirk?
John Evans
>dated woman once >I'm going to war >marry me >she does
This made me so angry.
Lincoln Perez
girls cant resist the BAC (big Adventist cock)
Thomas Morgan
>Germans
Michael Jenkins
>85452318 >shooting germans dont reply to this bait
Evan Thompson
>Hacksaw Ridge is crap for not including the war tropes that Dunkirk also didn't include, so watch that movie instead huh
Noah Lewis
I never said Dunkirk had the tropes Dunkirk is a better movie, and a big part of that is because it chooses to ignore the classic war-movie tropes.
Learn to read, you illiterate bastard
Brody Hernandez
>ywn experience growing up in the 1940s
Sebastian Carter
fuck, honest mistake
Camden Myers
>Chads are all off at war >men dying left and right >world on fire Women needed to settle down earlier in circumstances like that
Logan Cook
You are chastising Hacksaw Ridge for not including the big return home trope.
Sebastian Collins
You are one annoying person
Hacksaw Ridge should have that trope because the movie builds up to it, and then completely cucks you by cutting to an interview
Dunkirk, unlike Hacksaw Ridge, substantially shows you the terror of war, and THEN shows them getting home.
There is no real character development in Hacksaw Ridge, and a big part of that is that last, missing trope
You know, comparing movies up to another is stupid, because they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Hacksaw Ridge isn't bad because Dunkirk did things different Hacksaw Ridge is bad because of its own buildup
Mason James
The entire first half of Hacksaw Ridge consisted of character development. Dunkirk had none. That's fine; they're two different films with different objectives, but I can't see how a film that goes into strenuous detail about its lead's motivations can be said to lack character development.
>Dunkirk, unlike Hacksaw Ridge, substantially shows you the terror of war, and THEN shows them getting home. The entire story of Dunkirk and the impetus of Operation Dynamo was getting those soldiers home. The payoff of that particular story is the return. The narrative payoff of Hacksaw Ridge would be the taking of Hacksaw Ridge.
Charles Rogers
Do you disagree Hacksaw Ridge didn't lead you to believe they'd show you him returning home to his family and wife?
There's so much focus on his life back home, the first shot is of him and his brother. Wouldn't you say this implies a narrative payoff that he is reunited with him?
In Dunkirk, that pre-war setting is not present amongst the soldiers, yet, their return is shown.
Juan Butler
cont
By your logic, why even bother showing anything after Frodo drops the ring in Mordor?
Justin Allen
not him, but it was obvious (if youre not a complete buffon) that the last scene with the interview and original pictures etc, would not have had half the impact, if weakened before by showing the actors meeting each other again, being happy etc.. you have to be one hell of a retard not to see this. they didnt just not show some returning to home trope, they purposefully didnt do it so the last scene (interviews with original recordings) has more of an impact on the viewer.
Jeremiah Bell
what if i told you this was once the norm
Ryan Robinson
The interview to me felt cheap and didn't belong in the movie according to the buildup
I plainly disagree, I guess
Brayden Sanchez
>it was shit on purpose
Aaron Jones
The focus on him back home was done in order to reveal the main character's motivations. It wasn't the narrative hook in and of itself; Doss saving hose 75 people was what you came to see. The purpose of the first hour of the film was to articulate why he would choose to save 75 people in the first place.
>By your logic, why even bother showing anything after Frodo drops the ring in Mordor? The point of Lord of the Rings was to destroy the one ring. The point of Hacksaw Ridge wasn't to return home, but to show Doss saving the people he saved.
Benjamin Edwards
So if the point of LOTR was to destroy the ring, why did they show anything after? Please just answer this
Jeremiah White
You do realize that the biggest criticism of the trilogy was the fact that the Return of the King had like 5 endings, right? A lot of people lost interest after the ring was destroyed.
Evan Diaz
That part was awesome, though
James Scott
That's besides the point, and you're intentionally sidestepping
The payoff isn't that Frodo literally drops the ring in the volcano, it's that he gets to go home to a peaceful world
Sure, Hacksaw Ridge is secured, but what the fuck does that do, plotwise? We get paraded through how good of a character he is, how much he loves his family and wife and have to sit through a painfully long conviction scene, and for what? The Ridge is secured, people are saved, but the aftermath is so underwhelmingly presented, I can't imagine people praising it
Ryder Adams
I'm not side-stepping the issue, i'm explaining that choosing to focus too much on resolution when the objective of the plot is completed is a flaw. And like that other poster said, another narrative payoff would be redundant prior to the documentary footage at the end.
James Butler
did people un-ironically like this cliche of a war film? i want to like mel because the jews blacklisted him but shit this movie was like seeing those mockbuster disney cartoons.
Asher Cooper
it wasnt even that good. everything is too much on the nose if that makes sense.
Jose Bennett
But the MC never went out to war to secure Hacksaw Ridge, he went out to save lives in order to prevent other people ending up like his father
They jumped the shark on that ending, I'd never use the documentary in the first place, it simply doesn't fit in, even if the main character is supposed to be real It ruins any tie we had to his family, and any resolution we could have experienced
Leo Anderson
i couldnt really stand this bullshit movie. flag waving overrated trash
Sebastian Sanders
This was a lot worse than I had anticipated.
Gabriel Reed
Keep in mind that these are the same Sup Forums poster who enjoyed Dunkirk and dislike The Thin Red Line. Very little taste to be found here.
Gavin Harris
Hacksaw Ridge was better, because it had a story and you cared about the protagonist. Dunkirk was more of a spectacle, it lacked a story.
Cooper Peterson
wew, laddie
Sebastian Harris
you have to go back
Caleb Russell
The objective, the story's raison d'etre, were the feats he did on Hacksaw Ridge. I don't get the appeal of a victory tour, especially by the end of the film when the audience is as emotionally drained as it would be if the film's doing its job. The movie can't go back to the comparative innocence of its first half after that much gore and viscera.
Matthew Allen
i thought it was overrated
Justin Murphy
i kinda have to agree this as well
Ryder Ramirez
Regardless of Garfield and the bulk movie Hugo Weaving was incredible and deserves the oscar or something.
Jack Hill
>I don't get the appeal of a satisfying ending
Cameron Hill
>The movie can't go back to the comparative innocence of its first half after that much gore and viscera.
Why not we do it in real life with real wars all the time, and especially with WW2.
Carson Collins
Agreed, sophomor-onic jumpscares do not belong
Gabriel Diaz
>I can read minds
Chase Morris
Yes Op it's a good movie, ignore these heathens and Athiests,
Let people believe in God and have faith. In the end, the movie showed it was that guy's faith who saved everyone, not God.
Lincoln Cox
Christkino.
Adrian Harris
The gritty and cruel reality of war just made me detest war even further, and that's at least something the movie did right instead of glamorizing and fetishizing war. It would be nice to have a film where both sides are equally bad and cruel to each other, and where there really is no clear hero or villain, just fucked up people hurting for no clear reason
Parker Miller
>that scene when they're all waiting for him to finish his prayer
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Jordan Garcia
the movie lost me when the actions scenes started
so cheesy and over the top looked like it belonged in the 80s, or those weird Veorheven movies
couldn't get into the movie after that
Gavin Wood
/k/ here. The combat scenes were actually pretty realistic. The disparity in body count between the Japanese and American troops was staggering. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if over the course of the battle someone didn't try to advance with a trick like that. Many veterans of Okinawa watched mothers throw their infant children off of cliffs. The concept of someone using a human torso as a shield would be par for the course in that hell on Earth.
David Miller
It was really fucking stupid and mediocre, the thin red line is a billion times better
Alexander Rogers
shut up reddit marvelcuck pajeet
Andrew Russell
watch thin red line then
Jose Evans
>whiles he's shooting Germans >Germans
???
Ethan Reed
>I know it's a true story, almost, but the guy just got very lucky. That's it.
Joseph Young
don't reply to the tripfag, he is literally a schizophrenic debating over nothing he really beliefs in, just to see how far he can go
Caleb Moore
>war is literally hell Holy shit I had no idea based Mel based Bible bro based based based KINO atheist BTFO praise kek
Jaxson Phillips
It's pretty good but I have a feeling Sup Forums would have forgotten or more likely never watched it if hadn't been directed by Meme Gibson.
Leo Gonzalez
>he did not enjoy hacksaw ridge
>>>wizardchan
Cooper Martin
I felt just like you OP. Great kino.
Lucas Lopez
Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom. 29 He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. 30 Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; 31 but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
Easton Powell
>rope burns on his hands create a stigmata >"cures" a blind solider >almost gets stabbed in the ribs by a Japanese solider yo Mel chill with the Jesus symbolism
Cooper Hill
It was horrible.. are you fucking crazy?
Christian Morris
Sorry, faggot. Almost 2 decades later, and still nothing has topped Ryan.
Samuel Johnson
>comparing ryan simbolism to mel gibson christianity