Tarantino Thread

So I saw Inglorious Basterds yesterday and I had mixed feelings on the movie. I was surprised by rotten tomatoes giving this such high scores.

My main gripes I had with the movie was how awkward some scenes were and the change in tone. The part where the owner of the cinema was being introduced to the director (along with his lover) for the nazi propaganda was and for a few seconds there's a scene of them having sex for no reason, with focus on the guys ugly face. That took me out of the movie for a good moment.

And then the scene where they are killing all the nazis in the end felt blown out of proportion, like from a bad action movie, where they had the two white suits left in the theater killing the audience Scarface style.

I loved Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, Django Unchained, and Pulp Fiction. The tone of those movies feel consistent. But with Inglorious Basterds we have amazing scenes, amazing acting, great tension, rich dialogue, but there there are these bits that I feel like are part of Tarantino's dark sense of humor he forces in that takes me away from my immersion. I also felt that while he may be great at writing character dialogue, there was just so much banter.

Any thoughts?

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But seriously, I heard other people online say that because it's a Tarantino movie, I should brace for campy moments. Or you have to watch the movie with a mind open to his erratic style. I feel the same way about the Hateful Eight. It was a beautifully shot movie but it's just his out of place dark sense of humor that I don't like.
Which is odd because in Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction those moments felt in tone with the movie. But maybe I'm just be fallacious since the BDSM part in Pulp Fiction gave me a good laugh.

So why is it that I found those moments in Inglorious Basterds so bad. It was like when Samuel L Jackson was telling that racist guy in Hateful Eight hos he made his son give him a blowjob. I just don't know how to take Tarantino's sense of humor sometimes and I don't know how it sets itself apart from the other movies I mentioned I liked.

the only way your thread gets more than 10 replies is if it devolves into nazi arguments

Do you really not understand that sex scene? It's a quiet restaurant and they are being introduced with class, the sex scene contrasts that directly and its supposed to be sudden, and jarring (also funny).

And of course its blown out of proportion, it's literally Jewish soldiers machine gunning a mass of the higher ups of the Nazi party. Same thing how the Nazis were watching their own version of a bad action movie blown out of proportion with that sniper gunning them down.

Terrantinos a hack, take away the "style" and youre left with shitty plots and good actors.

I think it's Tarantino's second best movie after Pulp Fiction. You can tell he spent 20 years writing it because it's full of nuance, irony and great characterisation - the kind of stuff you found in his earlier work. The way he explores the humanity of virtually every nazi character in the movie and presents half of the Basterds as nameless terrorists is lost on a lot of people. The movie hits peak irony in the cinema scene when the German audience are celebrating the deaths of the allies in Zoller's movie before Tarantino invites his own audience to do the same five minutes later with the theatre massacre. The dairy farm intro is one the greatest opening scenes ever, Landa is a character you could watch for 4 hours straight. The humour is unexpected and really funny. It's a great movie.

I get that the sex scene was supposed to be jarring to contradict his class. But I found like it did absolutely nothing. Aside the initial shock it was so disgustingly placed for like three seconds.
It reminded me of that part in Fight Club where Tyler talks about adding just a few frames of a porno in family movie reels and then we see that in the end for about a second. That made me laugh, but in Basterds I didn't think it was funny. Maybe my sense of humor just doesn't align with most Tarantino fans'.

>And of course its blown out of proportion, it's literally Jewish soldiers machine gunning a mass of the higher ups of the Nazi party. Same thing how the Nazis were watching their own version of a bad action movie blown out of proportion with that sniper gunning them down.

I do like this perspective though. The whole movie can be seen as a revenge piece againts Nazi propaganda. Especially when this part the actress said "this is Jewish vengeance". Too bad I thought this part was cheesy too. But again, I feel like this is just my overall pickiness with parts that I didn't like standing out too much for me compared to the rest of the movie.

I did love the ending where Bradd Pitt's character disobeys his order of command and branded that spy nazi.

the script is probably his best. casting brad pitt ruined this movie.

I think the 'bad action movie' part is supposed to be mirroring the propaganda film where the sniper is picking people off left and right. It also milked the twist of the plan actually succeeding.

The scenes didn't bother me, it's the kind of stuff I just accept from Tarantino movies.

Rewatch it again in a few months. It's a movie that manages to grow on you.

Pitt is supposed to stick out though. Him not really fitting the tone of the movie kind of mirrors his character in France trying to pass himself of as an Italian to Germans.

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Brad Pitt is playing Manson in the next tarankino.

You boys ready?

I'll add to this user that the basement bar scene was the best thing Tarantino ever did. As soon as Major Hellstrom pops in, the tension is constantly cranked up a notch per second. Throwing in a clever King-Kong-was-like-African-slaves joke and ending it with one guy standing was the cherry on top.

It's not like Tarantino forced Pitt on any of the important setpiece scenes in the movie. In fact he keeps him out of the way. He's not in the dairy farm, the restaurant meet or the basement rendezvous. His character pretty much exists for the Arrivederci scene which is supposed to be ridiculous and funny.

the best scene he's ever done was the jews in the basement one

I'd concede that maybe that's his best scene, but the basement bar is his best *Tarantino* scene.

>The dairy farm intro is one the greatest opening scenes ever, Landa is a character you could watch for 4 hours straight. The humour is unexpected and really funny. It's a great movie.

I agree, I loved the intro too.

>e movie hits peak irony in the cinema scene when the German audience are celebrating the deaths of the allies in Zoller's movie before Tarantino invites his own audience to do the same five minutes later with the theatre massacre.
>supposed to be mirroring the propaganda film where the sniper is picking people off left and right

You guys really think he was going for irony by turning the massacre scene into a bloodfest?
I like that idea. So then was that intentional commentary on revenge movies. I imagine the theater audience was cheering when the movie aired in theaters as the Nazi audience died. But to compare the Nazi audience to the actual audience watching it, it seems too good to be true. I wonder how this movie was received in Europe.

But I feel that you give Tarantino too much credit, I don't think it was intentional of the movie to parallel with the audience because of his film history is known to have done revenge movies made to simply entertain. I think his purpose is first and foremost to entertain.

Also if it was his purpose to compare a Nazi audience to the real life viewer (this including real French people and Jewish people) don't you think this would have caused a huge controversy? Did it?

It did not. People only ciritic it for being too bloody and violent.
Personally I'm sceptic he intentionally tried to express anything too clever. His career is too important.

>So then was that intentional commentary on revenge movies

The movie is a nuanced exploration of the power of propaganda, more accurately the power of cinema, masquerading as a cathartic revenge movie. Most of the movie revolves around propaganda - of the Basterds, Zoller, Landa, Goebbels - with the entire third act revolving around the Zoller propaganda film, whilst Shosanna hurriedly makes her own movie for opening night. Tarantino even takes it to another level when he makes filmmaking physically powerful by having the cinema reels be the kindling that burns down the theatre.

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>My main gripes I had with the movie was how awkward some scenes were and the change in tone.

>And then the scene where they are killing all the nazis in the end felt blown out of proportion, like from a bad action movie

Djago has the same issue.

It's a theory put forward by lots of film critics lad. Back to your capeshit. Tortillini was cutting through the black and white morality you usually find in WW2 films and was probably having a go at other filmmakers for their good and evil portrayal of the war. He simultaneously compares the Basterds, the supposed heroes of the film, to native Americans and Islamic extremists.

I also didn't like the ending. It seemed too much like a Jewish power fantasy/wet dream.

The "Cinderella" scene was quite a riot. It makes me wonder how Tarantino auditions actresses for his films. Does he first have them do a reading and then have them take off their shoes and socks?

Django was set as a gun-slinging blaxploitation western movie from he beginning of the movie though.

>It seemed too much like a Jewish power fantasy/wet dream.

I feel like that itself isn't a bad thing. What I ask for is just subtlety.

When I started watching it, I was blown away by the first scene. It was perfect. I was like damn man. Damn. This is fucking IT. Prime Tarantino, his magnum opus. This movie will go down in history and I was alive to witness it. I was in the movie so deep I didn't realize I actually existed. What a wonderful scene. But then the quality dropped; it wasn't bad by any means, but I mean come on. Come on dude we just had something beautiful I know you can do better. It's like watching Goku fight as a ssj2 and you KNOW he can turn ssj3 and the fight is still good but come on. Just... just get there, I know you can

And he did, with the basement scene. My inner crowd goes wild, I can practically smell the thick smoke and alcohol, the movie was IN THE ZONE. But it never reached that zone again after that

Overall I'd probably like it more if it was more consistent with its quality. Even if the best was slightly worse without the rest changing at all, I'd still think of it more fondly because it wouldn't have caused such an eager emotion in me. You can't just flash your goodies like that and take them away

7.5/10 ranks in his top 3

>I heard other people online say
shut up

why? I came here because I wanted recent differing opinion based on what I read after the movie. And I'm satisfied with the responses I got.