TRUMP DEBATES DOUBLE TEAMED

>they are going to manipulate the “media polling” to put Gary Johnson on the stage for the debates. It takes 15% in a major political poll to qualify for a presidential debate. Who controls the polls considered “major” and “political”…. why, the media of course.

Putting Gary Johnson on the stage helps to undermine Donald Trump and presents the perfect optical framing for the “first woman presidential nominee“. Trump on one side, Johnson on the other and Hillary in the middle.

This stage alignment also helps to obfuscate any attacks that Trump might launch. The questioner can frame the inquisition to pit Gary Johnson against Trump and Hillary Clinton against Trump.

I-Is this what will do Trump in? I have been pretty confident in Trump absolutely wrecking Hillary in the debates. But it seems they might be planning ahead.

Source:
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Feel The Johnson

Pretty much.

Trumpfags are going to be on suicide watch if this goes down.

Yeah, Gary fans definitely abide by that motto, but it has nothing to do with the election.

If you think Hillary wants the Libertarians having that much exposure you're out of your mind.

The only thing keeping half the people who plan to vote for her in line is fear of Trump and the illusion that they have no alternative.

Hulk Hogan and Chris Christie will jump in and even the odds.

You realize that Johnson is pulling more from Hillary than Trump, right? As Johnson gets more support, the polls actually tighten between Trump and Hillary.

Polls show that Johnson is hurting Clinton a little more than he's hurting Trump

Go ahead, put Johnson on the debates, he's not even a real Libertarian, he's a gun grabbing open borders scumbag, those Bernie faggots who thought they had no alternative will jump to him in droves and destroy her candidacy.

This. I imagine Johnson would come out with more supporters, should he enter the debates.

This faggotte is the main cause behind God Emperor's behing behind in the polls.

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Shilter

I would actually welcome Johnson on the stage.

I know it triggers the fuck out of half this board but I really enjoy hearing him speak and he does a great job at it. He uses words larger than a syllable too, unlike someone else, so you can actually understand what he says without feeling belittled.

inb4 CTR

>STUPID MILLENNIALS ARE ALL LIBERALS
>Millenials vote for Gary Johnson
>STUPID MILLENIALS DONT UNDERSTAND THEY ARE GIVING VOTES TO HILLARY

They weren't gonna vote for Trump regardless of if Johnson was in the race or not. How dense are ya m8?

People really don't seem to realize how radical an alternative Trump presents. There was a reason Pat Buchanan was marginalized. These ideas are not felt to belong to mainstream politics anymore.

Very true didnt even consider it myself. Im pretty sure that Johnson will also take away more votes from Donald than he will from Shitlary

Johnson is a threat to both

This, because he's being strategic with not going full-libertarian on some issues as to not trigger liberals away.

The millenial aversion to Trump due to social norms is somewhat annoying, but they're showing that there's at least some hope in the future based on how many of them are supporting Johnson over Shillary.

We're finally waking up to the encroaching socialism and government overreach. I hope it's not too late.

Trump is just going to BTFO of the mediators and Hillary. They got caught in bed with the DNC. All credibility into the shitter

I supported Johnson in 2012 when I could first vote over Obama because my State was guaranteed red. Rather than vote for someone who would lose I chose a third party who had policies in line with my social views and in line with a conservative economic view. I am doing the same this election. I would have actually gone with Trump this time around if he didn't make himself look like such a jackass all the time and flip flop on almost everything. Hillary is really no better but on everything except the TPP she has been fairly consistent, where as Trump has pretty much flip flopped on every single thing he said at the start. Johnson, as far as I have been reading and watching, has yet to flip on anything. He barely flipped on his views from 2012. I like a Candidate who sticks to his views. I like a candidate who is smart with economics but also open in terms of social progress. If someone is going to ask, I switched to Johnson this year after Trump flopped on Work Visas.

To add to my previous post. Republicans, Donald Trump included, despite his obvious non-status to the party, are very backwards on social views, and I don't mean on towards things like Bathroom Rights and Black Lives Matter, I mean on things like Abortion and Marriage, as an institution and as a Sexuality Definer. If the party was to drop these views and stop appealing to hard right Christians they would most likely be able to take the office back from the Democrats. In 2012 they almost 100% could have if Romney ran on his Governor-based Ticket rather than his Tea Party based ticket with Ryan.

In short, if you want young people to like Trump, stop telling Women who got Pregnant last month they can't have an abortion. Stop telling gays they can't ruin there lives and get married.

I expect to be called a CTR Shill or w/e, but that is my honest views on the matter.

Yeah both parties are corrupt and are flipping out at trump. Hillary most likely lie about something then breakdown and have a seizure after trump interrupts her. The media will try to spin it off as trump almost killing her and Garry will just kind of be there... Should be fun.

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary. At this point, we need an extreme fascist response in order to turn the dial and at least stall, if not reverse, the inevitable decay of America.

>I would have actually gone with Trump this time around if he didn't ...........

thanks for that useless information. we are always so interested in people who were

"I was gonna vote for trump, but then x"

Why don't they have Jill Stein in?
She would probably get the whole bernie or bust crowd

>stop telling Women who got Pregnant last month they can't have an abortion. Stop telling gays they can't ruin there lives and get married.

where did trump say this?

>I expect to be called a CTR Shill or w/e

yes, we know you do

Personally I think trump likes the media attention. I mean he is on his way to spending the least amount of money for a campaign than anyone for a very very long time($95m-ish) Hillary is almost at $300m. Pretty sure he says something every time his name hasn't been out for awhile. However, as much as I see your point, Garry wolnt win and I'd choose trump over Hillary any day. Corruption is the worst.

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe in open borders?

>if republicans stopped being republicans and became democrats, then democrat voters would vote for them

hmmmmm, this really made me think....

You know it bb

You should actually be interested in that bit of information. It signifies why someone didn't end up helping your cause. Its a shame that it just seems to make you angry though, should be the opposite effect. You should have tried to reassure me as to why his change was good. You should have tried to explain why his flip was necessary.

I never said Trump personally said this, I was referring to the party platform in general in which all, even Trump, are anti-abortion. Donald Trump has gone on record as saying that he believes aborting should bring punishment. Source: youtu.be/h1Jpoecf0xY

The point of voting third party is not victory, its positive recognition, which seems to be working for Johnson and even a bit for Stein, although she is a bit wacko and has been lambasted for it.

If by open borders you mean let the mudslimes come, no. If by open borders you mean if I can get a stable job in Canada I can move to Canada, then yes.

What typically defines the Right and Left is actually economic values, not social values. Proof of this is during the 60s when both parties actually flipped on the social issues.

>my State was guaranteed red.
>Rather than vote for someone who would lose . . .
Left-libertarian, I take it?

>The point of voting third party is not victory, its positive recognition, which seems to be working for Johnson and even a bit for Stein, although she is a bit wacko and has been lambasted for it

It feels like waste of votes to me personally but by all means go for it.

How far do the polls go back? How many are they considering?

I've yet to see him over 12% in any poll. He'd never get 15%, especially if he's single digits for majority of polls.

Of course there is talk of giving leeway if he's a few points off.

Because she would cost Hillary a lot of votes, and (((they))) don't want that.

Would you Sup Forums?

John is cleverly going to pander to the left: pro-immigration, pro-hispanic, pro-weed, pro-abortion, pro-islam, pro-feminist, pro whatever shit the leftfags crave. This will hurt Hillary so much.

But they wouldn't vote either way.

Most polls are between Clinton and Trump, so they're closer with Johnson and Stein.

It'll be hard to say. With trump and Hillary(both unlikeable to many voters) the debates will be really important for them. Plus Hillary is always putting her hand into the cookie jar and trump is always on headline for something he said. Should be fun.

If Trump does lose, I hope both parties are taken down a notch.

GOP is split when hundreds have publicly come out saying they won't vote for Trump.

For the most part yes. I tend to vote based on a number of issues relating to economic security over the next few decades. Johnson has been consistently the one to care about those next few decades. Hillary cares about helping people now. Trump cares about helping Service Workers, who will be unemployed in 15 years when the inevitable shift to robots happens, now. Both strategies are equally dangerous.

It is a very fair argument to say it is a waste of a vote, however you need to keep in mind when you vote during a General Election you vote for many people, local and national, and all of them combined are what changes the world. Hillary, Trump, Stein, Johnson, all of them have little weight on the future, despite what the media will have you believe. People like the Judges who put away local niggers who break the law. People like the Senators who decide if they should do the right thing or raise there paycheck again. Those are who really matter. I am willing to sacrifice a single checkmark on a sheet of dozens to try and get third parties more recognition so in the future we have a better system.

Actually they won't have her in because she isn't even getting a stable 1% of the vote right now. You need to get 15% on a major poll to be eligible for a Presidential Debate, and even then, chances are fairly low they would want to show up as it costs quite a bit of money to prepare for a debate properly.

That is my point. If they weren't in the race they either wouldn't vote or would vote Left.

If Trump loses expect the Republican party to be reorganized into a more Socially Liberal Conservative Party, or expect the Libertarian Party to take its place.

Build the wall? Yes

Go the fuck to bed, Jill.

>they
but who is that 'they'
is 'they' gonna eat my kids?

I'm fine with that as Johnson is actually closer to hillary policy wise than Trump is. Whether or not the average retard will even recognize that is a different story.

Wasn't really wasted in '92... Perot's strong run (despite not winning a single electoral vote) made it blatantly clear how big an issue the deficit was to the public. Bill responded by making balancing the budget a high priority. Recognition matters.

Thank you for correcting the record.

Imo RNC lost a lot of credibility recently, similar to the DNC.

...yeah, but that dumb bitch can't be bothered to look through a few leaked emails :D

Not surprised even slightly someone would post this. Just because someone post something you disagree with, doesn't mean they are a shill. I have a strong feeling CTR is going to be a long term JIDF situation again. Really sad too because people like you could actually have a legitimate discussion about why you disagree with what I said, instead you would rather call me a shill. Its really a basic form of Ad Hominem and it gets really old on this board and Sup Forums.

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

Because there's no sense in talking to someone who came here with a scripted agenda. One of the alt right champions is a flaming faggot and maybe if you'd looked at some basic maternity material you'd realize how fucking disgusting the practice of abortion is. But do you, senpai.

I actually didn't come here with an agenda I came to dump my proverbial shit, known as an opinion, on the board because it was relevant to the discussion. Using Appeals based on Milo really isn't relevant at all to what I said. The message you are trying to convey is Milo, who is gay, likes Trump, so the parties policies towards gays are fine. I am sorry, but it simply is not true. Its pretty much accepted that Marriage is no longer a Religious institution anymore, and as such, there is no reason to limit it to just people who are traditional. I never specifically mentioned Trump's Stance on either Abortion or Gay Marriage either, it was a flat post about the party policy in general. I will gladly link to you a source were Donald dodges the question very tactfully to try and gain support from both ends. In the end however, his stance being let the states handle it, only hurts non-traditional couples because there will be states that go against that particular view. Here is the source: youtu.be/tSmxd7X9X2s

On the topic of abortion, calling abortion a disgusting practice is actually a subjective opinion. I do think any abortion past the second Trimester is awful, but I do not think all abortions are awful. Abortion is legal for a reason and as a practice abortion has statistically caused a massive crime drop in the 90s because it prevented a very large number of black babies from being born into poor homes and poor lives. Sometimes you need to do things you disagree with for the greater good. In this case, it is wiser to do it. I would think as a typical Shillposter you of all people who understand why less niggers is good.

Remember when Cruz and Rubio tried to do this? Didn't work then either.
Can't stump won't stump.

That is actually not what the article talks about at all. Also keep in mind this is a Presidential Debate, not a Republican Primary Clown Show. These debates are moderated fiercely. Secondly, what the article means by double team is not the same concept that Cruz and Rubio tried on Trump. Imagine if Rubio and Cruz went at each other all night and outright ignored Donald? That is what this is suggesting. Both parties will favor going after each other rather than Donald. In all likelyhood, Johnson will not even hit 15%, most likely 12.5%. Even if this did happen Trump is required to have time to speak so its a moot point, he would still be able to attack both candidates forcing them to respond.