When it comes to animation quality and art design, why does anime look so shit compared to Western animation...

When it comes to animation quality and art design, why does anime look so shit compared to Western animation? I've tried seeing what people call their best looking and its just not comparable.

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western is more fluid with less detail, japs have more detail with less fluidity

>it's a "western animation vs eastern animation" episode

Their horrible and now frequent use of low quality CG meshed into hand drawn art is nauseating.

what did people tell you were the best

Do the japs do any stop motion or puppetry? I'm interested in how the styles might be different from the west.

That stupid ass fucking kids show you see in OP. For movies, Redline, some old ass shit called Revoluionary Girl Utena

I think they've got something like that but it's just anime.
Everything they do is just anime. Anime with puppets, anime with videogames, anime with comics, it's all the same.

there's a puppetry based show airing right now

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because japan goes for quantity over quality

This

I think that one is originally from Taiwan.

Utena is recommended for its subject matter and how it handles that material.
Redline is fucking gorgeous though.
Watch something from Madhouse if you want fluid animation. Watch a Gundam OVA if you want technical animation.

Exactly. There isn't a half decent anime.

Mob Psycho makes pretty good use of cgi

Berserk is absolutely disgusting though

this isn't even worth the argument

When it comes to animation and fluidity, I always recommended the Blu-Rays for the Hellsing Ultimate OVAs

That or Neon Genesis, because the pre-digital 2D animation is simply gorgeous for it's time

culture bias toward details and finishing at the expense of creativity, thus so many shows across different studios being able to stay on model for the same generic female.

You know that Fate series is based from Hardcore hentai game right ??

This and to expand slightly on it - detail in western animation is focused more on character expression and recognizable silhouettes, even if sometimes that means more simplified designs or cartoonishly exaggerated facial expressions. Detail in Japanese animation tends to be focused on small features in attire or backgrounds.

>art design

Are you saying that's worse than this?

That and japs have better directing and storyboarding.

that specifically? yes. Western shows have pretty bad art styles

>drawn together
>american dad
>edgy guy
>really any animated sitcom that isn't so tame it gets slapped with a tv-pg rating
>no fanservice

best girl

o shit this is hype as fuck

Are there any western shows about cute grills being badass? Is the new PPG good?

This one

>Is the new PPG good?

>Star
>badass

She's quirky at best

Yeah, that is why most anime series (kiddie shows aside) end after 13 episodes instead of dragging it out for years and years like what happens with all successful American shows...

It's not Japan that's most guilty of quantity over quality.

no just, no

You know how Sup Forums always throws a big shitfit whenever another Disney movie or something comes out with a seriously bad case of sameface?


Well... now think about how we'd feel about an entire genre of animation that is all sameface.


Sure, you get a little sameface from the lazier artists coming out of CalArts these days (I'm looking at you Frederator Studio), but at least it's not the entire fucking field.

>Is the new PPG good?

>implying anime is samefacey

It is though.

Western animation is more consistent. The Japanese believe in saving the best animation for the best scene's and having boring shit like talking be done in simplicity while the west believes in going all out or going home, well they used to when they actually do the animation. Now they believe in just consistency for consistency sake. also good bait user.

>entire genre of animation that is all sameface

Mob Psycho is pretty fucking good on story alone. It's like reverse Squirrel Girl. The art makes the book better because the shitty art accents the comedy. The writing is pretty solid. ONE is a lucky fucker, too.

To be fair, everybody in Japan has pretty much the same face

do you even watch cartoons or are you just a idiot

fuck off fag

Miraculous Ladybug.

But Sup Forums watches it for Catboy

Who is this bitch?

literally Taiwanese puppetry

im not telling you just called her a bitch

This is fucking disgusting. Why can't the Japanese draw for shit?

I never knew it was possible for puppetry to be so fast paced

Shinigami apparently

To emulate John K, Japan spends way too much time and effort making cartoons do things that can be accomplished by actors.

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The reason Americans view cartoons in disdain is because it's too difficult to picture a grown man watching cartoons and critiquing them as "art."

Sounds retarded doesn't it? Why not just watch a movie instead of a cartoon?

Western animation
>Consistent for the entire episode

Eastern Animation
>3 very well drawn frames repeated for 30 seconds

This digital tanked the quality of anime.

Honestly as bad as the art is they really make it work and I find it not looking totally horrible. Squirrel Girl is a million times worse than Mob Psycho.

Mob's story and characters are so much more likeable too.

Here we go again, the image that picks from decades worth of anime, to prove that there is no sameface today.
If someone did the same with only anime in the past 5-10 years I would accept that anime does not have sameface issues but then they would find it much more difficult because they do know that it does have that problem.

All of the characters in that silhouette were made in the 20th century, it's not representative of western animation in this day and age.

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>Is the new PPG good?


NO

Off the top of my head just this year:
Mob Psycho, Kabaneri, Luluco, Rakugo, Sakamoto, and Tonkatsu DJ all have vastly different art styles and "faces"
There are plenty more that are somewhat less obvious and it wouldn't be that difficult to make a similar image for the past decade

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don't remind me

Unlimited Blade Works had great animation, user.

>Hardcore hentai game
>Like one percent of the over one million word long visual novel is sex scenes

Spotted the fucking Fate shill. Now, watch this scene and tell me it's "well animated"

youtube.com/watch?v=ndSOKxowFSw

I hate anime and Fate. But the best work Ufotable had done is Kara no Kyokai in my opinion. This is pretty well animated I think
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This series, mushishi and samurai champloo are like the only anime I like

Jesus fuck, where can I watch this?
Subs?

looks shit as well.

Man, FUCK anime when will that industry collapse already it's such a cancerous stain on the youngsters out there today. Back in my day as a teen, if you liked this shit you'd be an outcast beaten up for pocket change,

kek, when our comic book industry dies, dingus.

torrent it, it's airing now
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cringe af

Don't ever compare comics to anime

Maybe they both are quantity over quality,but in different ways?

American wants more episodes of the same thing, but Japan just wants more shows. So pretty much you have series that drag out for years, but you also get a bunch of crap anime because so much is being put out at once.

Thanks man

Why not, it's the same, once mainstream widely popular media that now struggles to barely survive by pandering to ~30 year old neckbeards.

>Anime struggles to barely survive
??

Compared to the late 80's and 90's, it's a joke, they rarely make real shows or tell actual stories, just soft porn pornography for the otaku market.

That's not barely struggling to survive, if anything they're probably making more money now despite having the same shit budget as when in the 90's.

Comics on the other hand is being held together by people with Stockholm syndrome.

You fucking serious? Anime is a dying industry because the vast majority of hard working Japan also views that shit in disdain.

Fair enough.
Not ever anime character looks the same.
just the girls

Someone once said comething about western art and their noses.
Pic related was his profile picture

To be fair I'll take that over an exaggerated tumblr nose any day

It's just an advertising arm of the Otaku Industrial Complex.
You think slice of life harem moeshit is what animators and producers want to want create?
You think they don't want to creat art or real substance and dimension?
It's what sells.

>Comics on the other hand is being held together by people with Stockholm syndrome.
Not that user but I saythe comicbook industry is in the shitter due to how long some comics have been running. Trying to convince a newcomer to read a decades worth of one series alone is difficult and animated adaptations just aren't a thing like they are for anime adapting manga.

It doesn't help that directors that want to make new and different things don't get a chance to do anything because the only stuff that does well is waifubait light novel adaptations that pander to otaku, so that's what they have to keep making.

FIDDY

AUGH

shitlord pls, real women have bright red noses!

They've been rebooting everything for years now, that's no argument.
Filthy normies don't want to read capeshit every month for 3.99
They'll pay for a movie few times a year, but laugh at your face when you lend them a comic to read.

Yeah but when those box cutter eyes get it right they get it RIGHT

I really don't know where you're getting this from.
There's a reason every company and product is advertised by some animu grill. Anime is the the equivalent of western cartoons except they're not so anal about who watches them. Yeah there are some otakubait shows that people won't admit to watching because that's embarrassing as fuck but that same shit happens here.

Comics on the other hand can barely get 100k sales for almost all comics.

So Japanimation is more efficient.

she kicks monster ass for fun, just because she likes cute things doesn't make her not bad ass

Fate stay night is so overrated

Zero was better

I want to date MSI-chan!

That style looks good though. Just look at all the detail in the hair and body.

Your confusing anime with manga and moe mascot characters.
Manga is mainstream as TV, what you posted is nerd merch, average anime barely sells ~50,000 units compare to live action/hollywood millions, it's utterly niche.

>watching the same bland stories badly adopted ~5, 6 times
Otaku are utter filth

It's pretty easy to tell the difference of the faces from eye shape and curvature, eyebrows, irises and pupil.
I don't get why people think they look the same.

That's just Kyoto Animation.
This is what the 1st adoption of Kanon looked like.