How did this fail so horribly?

How did this fail so horribly?

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it wasn't very good

Because nothing has as lottle appeal as a comedy that isn't funny. Especially when it's riding the coattails of a comedy that actually was funny.

It always happen to me that when I invite a girl to the cinema the movie is fucking atrocious like this one, Japanese wolverine or power Rangers reboot

Power Rangers was okay.

Because they alienated their fanbase and casted a bunch of unfunny women from SNL.

They acted like it was going to be awesome, but instead it was the mediocre piece of shit that everyone thought it would be.

People wanted Ghostbusters 3

It was a combination of factors:
>looked nothing like the original
>bad script
>women aren't funny

This guy explains it pretty well
youtube.com/watch?v=OG83qBuQ_A8

>Fuck you losers girls are ghostbusters now!
>wtf why didn't you watch our movie

wonder woman people saw how Nu-Ghostbusters failed and did not attack anyone for not wanting to watch the movie. This made more people feel comfortable and check it out.

My brother thought it was hilarious

your identical twin brother has down syndrome?

A whole bunch of factors.

1) Before the movie came out, they created a lot of ill will for themselves by focusing on the detractors. Their defense of the movie was "if you don't like it, you're racist and sexist." It really backfired on them and made them look bad, and kind of encouraged people to shit on their movie more in order to just spite them. People like Paul Feig and Leslie Jones would have been smarter to not engage (to not "feed the trolls" as it were) but they couldn't help themselves.

2) Tying in to that last point somewhat, they made it political. The whole selling point of the movie was "feminism, YAY!" Now, most people really don't care either way, they aren't going to turned away from theaters just because it has feminist ideas but, on the flip side, they aren't going to watch a movie just to "support feminism." The selling point should have been "Hey, a new Ghostbusters movie! Did you like the old one? Sure you did! Come see this one!"

3) Which leads to the next point: it
was a reboot. A lot of people wanted to see the original cast reprise their roles at least one more time (I mean, obviously you can't get Egon, but they could have made it work). So there was disappointment right there when we found out Bill Murray wouldn't be Venkman again, and it was even more disappointing to hear he'd be some nothing character instead (plus those dreadful interviews where he and the old cast looked like they wanted to die).

4) And because it was a reboot, it meant they'd be retreading the Ghostbusters story. That's not to say a sequel couldn't retread the story (Ghostbusters 2 did) but at least with a sequel there was a chance we'd get something different (and no, genderswapped main characters isn't different).

5) It was a Sony movie. That's pretty much the stamp of shit right there.

>AVGN does special ghostbuster video
>says if you want shitty movies to stop getting made, stop going to see them
>says he doesnt like the whole "idea" behind the movie and refuses to go see it
>SJW defense force attacks him for weeks

>he ends up getting more subscribers and fans out of it because he gets a massive publiicity boost, being seen by people who never even heard of him

So here's what they should have done different: they should have made a sequel and gotten the original cast involved, gotten them in the writing sessions and listened to their ideas, and had this movie be a passing-of-the-torch. When people made fun of the movie, instead of going on an all-out offensive, they should have just shrugged it off for the most part.

Basically, they should have done everything that The Force Awakens wound up doing. Now, I know, you're going to say "but that movie SUCKED." Okay. But do you know what The Force Awakens wasn't? The Force Awakens wasn't box office poison like Ghostbusters Answer The Call was. The Force Awakens wasn't an aborted attempt to relaunch a franchise.

Women.

>fatty
>plain jane
>dyke
>ape
That's a recipe for disaster.

Paul Feig and whoever co-wrote this shit were The Office / Parks & Rec style of comedy. It's fine for TV but they make terrible fucking movies. (Bridesmaids is barely ok)

The actors were straight horseshit. Effects were garbage. People propped it up like it would be good because misogyny and somehow it got like a 70 even though it's objectively a 4/10.

seriously, i dont even think women wanted to see a female ghostbusters

they had to force Bill Murray to even show up, he didn't want it made at all

They can try to blame it on sexism. But that's not true as Wonder Woman proved that female front blockbusters can succeed. They can try to blame it on Sup Forums. But that's not true because Sup Forums would have crapped on a Ghostbusters 3 with the Judd Apatow gang (and that movie would have still been a box office hit).

The truth is Ghostbusters 2016 failed because they turned a goofy buddy movie into a Superhero film. Think of the original film, they're really a bunch of normal joes, the nerdiest one Spengler is still pretty normal just very smart and nerdy. They're not superhuman and the way they capture ghosts is pretty much the same way Pest Control will catch a possum out of your garage.

Paul Feig actually thought we'd want to know the motives of the villian, in The Original Ghostbusters Zuul is more of just a plot device, it's just an evil Ghost God there's no grand character detail. He has the Ghostbusters do crazy acrobatics and it goes against the charm of the original movie.

Sony wanted Ghostbusters to be a cinematic universe, instead of just a really fun movie.

I liked all those tweets making fun of him for being a nerd when that's all he's ever presented himself as. It was really interesting to see how much of a bubble the media is in compared to the internet or the rest of the world for that matter.

>Paul Feig actually thought we'd want to know the motives of the villian
He did? Because I remember there being no thought into the villain's motivations. He just wanted to control and make ghosts just because. There was absolutely nothing to his character other than "icky weird nerd guy you're not supposed to like".

>Ghost Aliens

And they never caught a single ghost.

it was a shit ip to begin with. reboots of old shit ips are kinda a joke. its like fucking ninja turtles FFS

its a throw back to a older era of campy shit nobody wants to see. while old geezers think middle aged people might find some nostalgia in it the reality is every one had shitty parents

then add on top of that women selected because they could remember the lines and a blatant attempt to make pretty much every male character a stereotype of oppression then you understand why nobody gave a fuck and the ones that had seen it warned every one else it was as bad as they thought

Replacing Bill Murray dry humor with Paul Feig improv

There going to be a sequel anyway. How many manbabies jokes you think there going to be?

Too much female involvement

If they wanted to be progressive as fuck, why not three blacks comedians playing the scientists and one schlubby white guy as their employee?

Kys

Because it was the horrific bastard of greed and ineptitude.
1: Nobody wanted a Ghostbusters sequels without any of the main cast, and few wanted one at all
2: Women are not the primary audience for Ghostbusters, period
3:Ghostbusters is not an action franchise, and you can't build a cinematic universe off it
4: Nobody wants to watch a movie that's half shitty comedy, half shitty action movie
5: The female market does not want to see 4 pudgy, middle aged women as stars
6: You should never have devoted 200 Million dollars to a comedy film

The female market for nerd shit wants a blandly attractive young woman surrounded by hunks. That's what the Fujoshit fanbase wants. Think Harry Potter or Twilight

>How did this fail so horribly?

Amy Pascal

That woman is seriously retarded. I know how she got her job, but still

Apart from looking completely terrible? They kept shitting on Men and Women don't go to see Action comedies unless they're on a date with a guy.

I like to think Patty wouldn't have filled Wonder Woman with YASSS QUEEN shit even if Ghostbusters didn't exist.

Hiring attractive women wouldn't have hurt either.

This mostly

It was horrible.
Like, unbearably bad.
Only the 2nd film I've ever turned off before it finished.

>This guy

You're not fooling anyone.

It was done by people who didn't understand why the original worked. But then again the same team that did the original didn't manage to get it right twice either.

There is?

Good points Mike

Because Sony Pictures Entertainment.

I watched it in a stream, and I could tell Feig just ran the camera and the editors had to string what they could together.
There is literally a cut that feels like it splices the beginning of one scene with the end of another.
It's when they're in the Mayor's office, and he makes a joke, and then it cuts to them in the middle of an alley talking about what just happened

Terrible marketing
Bad cast
Wasn't funny

I wonder if The Last Jedi coming out will turn you contrarian faggots on your heads again, and you'll end up praising and loving TFA in circlejerk threads. Or maybe you'll wait til Episode IX.

Jap Wolverine was great, stupid nigger

that's not why it's bad

Hemsworth was the best part by a mile

This movie would have been a hit if not for the ridiculous 150 million dollar price tag. This is a key example of taking a 30 to 50 million dollar idea for a film and going full retard in terms of budgeting

I have an overwhelming huge gut feeling TLJ will be just as bad if not worse than TFA or rogue one

>Wymen powah the movie
>Every dude is evil or dumb as fuck

Gee I wonder.

I forgot "if you didn't like our film you're sexist".

they needed to objectify Chris more desu

There's a lot of things TFA did wrong, but one of the things it did right was set up the film as a way to respectfully pass the torch from the old cast to the new.

Why not start the movie off with Venkman and Ray trying to do a job. They're older, they've clearly lost a step, maybe the job goes wrong and the ghost almost kills one of them. They realize they're too old for this shit, maybe they reminisce about the good old days, old friends they've lost, and decide it's time to hang up their proton packs.

Boom, there's your setup - Ghostbusters are old and tired, need to find and train replacements, cue introduction and recruitment of the new cast. No weird cameos where they're not the same characters, no bullshit explanations for the new cast coming up with the same shit, no need to retread all the steps of the original, and most importantly you haven't pissed off your core fanbase by taking a giant shit on the original.

Horrible writing
overbudget (should've been a 30m laughfest, not a 150m piece of shit)
Weird marketing

Its odd, since they had some actors who have been in very successful comedy films, AND they had a lot of cameo actors. They just wrote it absolutely horribly.

this
>look at this NERD, hes just an ANGRY manbaby! He is one of those horrible VIDEO GAMErs

>one of the things it did right was set up the film as a way to respectfully pass the torch from the old cast to the new.
it didnt do that at all! rey just inserts herself into the story and is liked by everyone. theres no growth or arc. everyone was just shoved in there said their bad lines and thats it.

The alt setup is interesting, but never use TFA as a positive example of anything

>it was a shit ip to begin with. reboots of old shit ips are kinda a joke. its like fucking ninja turtles FFS
Yes but the last film was made in the 80s. Usually this stuff makes a lot of money solely thanks to nostalgia. These morons ruined an opportunity to make big bucks because they gave the project to a male hating lesbian secretary.

Because it's the cinematic version of youtube.com/watch?v=4kdVpq3bnuY

I thought it was ok. Feig is a good comedy director, and the cast was solid (except McKinnon, terrible character, really forced).

The problem was that it was a reboot to a cult movie, which was pretty much perfect, and that it was surrounded by the whole "if you're against this you're misogynist, men tears, girls rule" thing which in the end made the movie a flop and killed the franchise.

They tried to hard to make a political statement when it's about fucking ghostbusters

This was honestly, a horrible idea and I tried to tell them it was.


>smart jew with a native american mother: guys uh, this is going to fail for sure, please stop
>NO, WE NEED THIS FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE, NOW LIKE IT
>dude, fuck off and no I'm not going to, stop that

Took a lot of effort to not make money off one of the most beloved properties out there, that's for sure.

Are you edging right now? You keep starting all these garbage ass flame threads just so you can welcome the deluge of Sup Forums circlejerking shit posts and fake liberal bait posts. It's like you have a bunch of porn tabs open at once you filthy unimaginative crock of shit.

Why the FUCK are we never able to talk about movies and tv here? Couldn't we at least just have a "/I am an insecure little fucking pol sheep/ general" where you all can bring up strawman bad examples of failed movies that weren't all white men larping as your little cartoon heroes? Seriously fuck off.

You will drag us through the fucking mud to make your point and how, fucking dare you.

>How did this fail so horribly?

Easy: take a beloved fun movie franchise, make it not fun by turning it into a vehicle for feminist whining.

feminism its that simple.

they couldnt just do their movie and prove the "haters" wrong they took a shit on a beloved IP with anti male anti fucking ghostbusters sketches all over the place. its like some someone made a parody of what a "evil mgtow mra nazi" would have thought gets made but they actually made it for real

The best part is how he never responded to any of it. I think that was part of the reason for all the coverage. If he had talked about the backlash it wouldn't have gotten him as much free publicity.

>>says if you want shitty movies to stop getting made, stop going to see them
>Very simple fact stated by James
>SJW go full triggered mode
>James just ignores them
>Movie comes out and is forgotten in a week
>GB is long gone and probably never be touched again as a franchise
>SJW are unusually quiet about GB 2016, never mention it again. It was that much of a shitshow
>James is perfectly fine moving on in life and being right that it was shit

Sweet Justice

>It was a Sony movie. That's pretty much the stamp of shit right there.
They sometimes produce something good. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was excellent.

it started out as a really bad idea that snowballed into a worse idea. by the time they were too far gone to turn back, they just said 'fuck it' and tried to piss off as many people as possible so that they could point to the backlash as a reason why no one wanted to see an egregiously shitty movie with a terribly rehashed premise. it's a good way to divert fault and protect the egos of everyone involved, that way you never truly feel responsible for it all and you can convince yourself (and you hope others as well) that your failure was caused by inexorable cultural and societal issues beyond your control.

>Sony wanted Ghostbusters to be a cinematic universe


I really hope that there was somebody that told them no before being quickly fired because the idea of a movie that even a sequel with the original cast couldn't top will somehow be able to shit out 6-7 interconnected sequels that audiences won't quickly get sick of was such a good idea that they formed a studio to directly work on GB sequels is retarded in every way.

Don't you ever fucking compare Wolverine in Gook town and Power Rangers to the Ghostbusters reboot

McKinnon's character could have been saved if they firmly established she was supposed to be borderline autistic from the start, rather than trying to imply she was just quirky.
It would make the scenes where Wiig looks like she wants to bolt for the nearest exit make a lot more sense

Best thing to come from it was this pic

>Not posting the video by based Georg Rockall-Schmidt

didn't they make a woman-only screening?

Really glad his ghostbusters video got him more exposure.
The guy deserves it, and his The Thing and how X changed over time videos are brilliant.

Nobody had any character to speak of. The plot didn't make much sense and was more of a series of unconnected events leading around the protagonists. Half of the cast was grating.
The idea had merit, they could have rebooted Ghostbusters to be something fun, and exciting. Unfortunately it would have required them getting fun and exciting people to direct it instead of that hack fraud whose career is essentially over.

Forget wonder woman. Look at Fury Road. Nothing wrong with sticking a woman in a traditionally-male role in the script. Just, y'know, remember to also make it an entertaining movie.

never forget how James un-JUSTed himself

Bad script. Bad Casting. Bad Direction.

The three bads.

>I really hope that there was somebody that told them no before being quickly fired
>Sony Pictures
They were quickly promoted.

they did for wonder wymyn

>Paul Feig improv

the bloopers must be the most cringiest material ever to be filmed.

youtube.com/watch?v=IvN4D6dj1xI

found some, only proofs this was treated as a full length SNL improv parody of Ghostbusters

It's clear that fag let the cast walk all over him when he should have been reigning them in, then called his lack of direction improv and hoped it would work.

They could have had the new crew open up a new franchise in Boston or New Orleans or something and get advice occasionally from the old crew.

The first Ghostbusters as it stands today is meh.

Also wonder woman is a superhero movie. That's a guaranteed 200 million in the box office.

>so horribly

You mean not horribly enough? Still, I dont understand your question. It was a movie from cancer for cancer.

>she was supposed to be borderline autistic from the start, rather than trying to imply she was just quirky

Can't do that. Her character's gay. Even if it's not outright said, we all no it because it was conveniently "leaked" that "HEY, AMERICA! THIS STRONG WOMYN IS GAY BUT SONYGNISTS WON'T LET US PUT THAT IN THE FILM!"

The simple truth is that LGBT characters can't have traditional flaws in 99% of media because that makes the people making it sexist. Maybe you can in, y'know, GOOD stuff... characters having defining traits AND flaws makes them better characters. But here? In a Sony "blockbuster"? Fuck that.

The real irony is that saying she can't have flaws because she's gay is hilariously close to back when characters would have one sole trait to define them and "gay" would have been enough to count as a flaw in of itself, so they're more or less still counting it as a strike against her in a way.

it's sole marketing campaign was attacking the white male. it wasn't even about girl power.

plus Feig is a terrible director and even worse in interviews

>the cast was solid
No, they were not.

Not in any form. They couldn't have picked worse people if they tried.

>bad actors
>bad jokes
>bad cgi
>bad props
>bad visuals
>action/story that did not make sense.
>forced cameos


You can only get away with so much you need to excel in something to hide the other faults and cast a shadow on them

That can't be real.... Why? That is kind of abnormal.

this picture and that picture pretty much sum up what went wrong

I just can't imagine what kind of mental illness makes a person act like this.

And they can make a serioulsy feminist point by hiring men AND women because they're the best they got, no mention of agenda or gender or anything like that, no "lol how will this GIRL carry a heavy proton pack? oh shit, she did!" bullshit jokes. A team of two men and two women acknowledging each other as peers would be a shit-ton more progressive than the gurl powah nonsense.