Has Superman Ever Been a Recipient Of The Speed Force?

This has always bothered me. Everything implausible related to Flash and his powers is explained using the Speed Force. But ive never seen Supermans exploits use the Speed Force despite his bullshit shenanigans sometimes matching up to The Flash.

No? Nobody?

Not even worth discussing?

You should frame your question in the context of gay sex to get anybody talking.

Nah, that would make him even more ridiculously overpowered. He doesn't need it anyway. I'm glad they let the Flashes be the kings of speed and Supes have everything else.

I dont know user, "Has Superman Ever Been A Recipient Of The Speed Force" is pretty gay.

Superman is already crazy fast without it

Can Superman get the Speed Force by having gay sex with the Flash? Like an STD?

I'm gonna go with "Yes".

Bad writers will make superman go faster than the speed of light anyway, so why would he need it?

He used it in the Smallville comic, but he had to wear a special suit, and he could only harvest it from other people.

>Bad writers
Butthurt Goku fan spotted! Superman is stronger than Animeman, deal with it you chode.

>trying to tap into the speed force when you haven't been chosen

usually doesn't go so well

The Flash is still faster anyway, right?

Anyone who's fast is connected to the Speed force and running makes the speedforce active/powerful (as we see in the Human Race arc of the Flash where Supes runs with the other speedsters to let Flash go faster than instantaneous teleportation) but he cannot manipulate it

>go faster than instantaneous teleportation
just say time travel

*sigh* Speedsters are chosen.

Superman's powers, unlike those of the Flash, are not accessed or purely associated with speed; therefore, he is not classified as a speedster and has no link with the Speed Force. Throughout the history of the character, Superman's powers have been explained by his Kryptonian physiology augmenting his natural abilities through the absorption of solar energy from earth's yellow sun, but if you want a distinct explanation behind them like the Speed Force is for the Flash's casual defying of physics, writers implemented the idea of a "bioelectric aura" being cast from his body as a product of his yellow sun energy, and it basically allows him to bend spacetime and use psychokinesis. Much like the Speed Force, the bioelectric aura serves as a logically plausible reason why he can not only just run really fast or lift heavy weights, but do these things in a way so extreme that they defy the laws of nature; writers utilized an extra step of pseudoscience to allow themselves to brush off reason when it catches up to them eventually, just like with the Speed Force.

But it was faster than instantaneous teleportation, it wasn't time travel.

nigga, do you know how special relativity works?

I think Superman's bullshit is "bio-electric aura" or whatever. Also sometimes they just say he doesn't break the sound barrier in flight most of the time.

There's a 100% success rate on Speed Force being passed down through sperm, so this might be legit.

>Anyone who's fast is connected to the Speed force and running makes the speedforce active/powerful

That's not true. They're not connected to it, even if everything in the universe is affected by it (since it's like the manifestation of the concept of motion, anything that has "motion" is governed by the Speed Force).

Connection is distinctly speedsters. Aside from Wally's twins who were expressly fucked up.

Technically it does not necessitate time travel, since by the nature of the violation it's a matter of perspective not chronology.
e.g. in the FTL phone call scenario the person receiving the phone call and responds is certain the call has already happened, but the caller themselves has yet to do it and receives a response before they've made the call.

Neither has actually traveled through time and technically both exist in the same timeline even though they have different timeline experiences. Time travel however can result in a similar paradox, but in that scenario the person who receives the phone call intentionally goes back in time to respond before it is made.

Yes.
>nigga, do you know how special relativity works?
Nigga do you think real physics applies to comic books? We are talking the fucking speed force here and Flash dimension hopped to chase a 4th dimension signal. You can't apply actual logic to that.

The only STD you get from having sex with Speed Force users is extended youth/slowed aging. And...immunity to the Anti Life Equation, apparently.

>Aside from Wally's twins who were expressly fucked up.
They were sharing a single connection, Jai gave up his part to his sister, she became kid Flash and then the universe got rebooted. One of them was going to be a villain too according to Thawne in Flash Rebirth.

I don't care if he beat SSJVSSGJUSJSGJ goku or some shit, I just hate that only Speed Force users should go faster than light and yet Superman does it without breaking a sweat in the hands of some writers

Yes, the only time someone wasn't a speedster when connected was when their connection was fucked up. I know how it went down.

Impulse had rapid ageing. It's a symptom of not enough goes fast.

No, and neither do the writers.

Superman is the direct descendant of a god.

>it does not necessitate time travel

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Fuck that Flash stuff is gold.

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I really hope Krakl shows up again at some point.

This makes me wonder if there was ever a magic side of Krypton that we never got to see because it died, either in the cataclysm or due to the supremacy of the sciences. Like, the reason Supes is so vulnerable to Earth magic is because he was attuned the magical energies of his home world.

superman is vurnable to magic becaus his species never encounterd it kryptonians never evolved to counter it magic is completely alien to him just like it is to any human he's just not a magic being is what im saying

iirc Morrison put his world on the Multiversity map so it's possible

Superman was a mistake, I wish he wasn't popular so they could either erase him from existence or at the very least seriously lower his power level at least to WW tier.

Someone ring /sci/ while I try to rationalize this.

Canonically it appears to be time travel, I won't argue that with implications like suggesting traversing the "fourth dimension" to mean time travel.

However the problem with your logic, and if they did in fact intend temporal travel to have happened; Millar and Morrison's as well, is in the result.

If Wally time traveled then he actually exists in two places at once, even if only for a fraction of an instant there is an actual past!Flash preparing to do what present!Flash has. And as past!Flash appears where present!Flash is, present!Flash doesn't leave. So an eternal cascade of Flashes builds up unless one of them tells past!Flash not to leave, but that in turn creates a paradox of past!Flash never leaving and present!Flash never arriving. This is the result of chronology being violated, not observation.

However if it is a violation of relativity then Flash didn't go back in time, he transferred his location at a rate that is incomprehensible to the universal laws of motion and is seen by measures locked at C to have appeared at a location before he left. One might assume that means he is still in two places at once but in fact at his original location is a residual image everyone is merely observing. The Flash is gone. Remember a footnote of FTL theory is if something achieves >C it's less likely physics stops working and more Our laws of physics need to adjust to the new universal speed limit.
This is a result of observation, not chronology.

>Inb4 Speed Force
I'm not debating how the Flash is doing what he does, I'm discussing what the Flash is doing. It's like seeing a Wizard near a forest fire and assuming he used fireball, but I say lightingbolt, evident by the exploded tree stem. I'm not debating magic, I'm debating cause and effect.

>despite his bullshit shenanigans sometimes matching up to The Flash

You have that backwards. The Flash needs the Speed Force simply because Superman and any Superman powerset entity like Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman makes his basic one-power niche irrelevant and redundant, simply because most of them can already move faster than light with trivial consequences, and fly, and also have super strength and high durability and a variety pack of powers like Superman's supersenses and heat vision.

So he needs to do his one thing so well to the point it's functionally a Green Lantern Ring on meth.

Nobody fucking cares that Superman can casually go on day trips to planets far away or speed-blitz someone from Earth to the Sun in a matter of seconds.