thing is, she's bluepilled as fuck, and she's a staunch Hillary supporter.
look guys. I need legitimate arguments- nothing meme tier, nothing that can be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
Worst case scenario, I can tear apart Hillary's policy position, since she's a fucking idiot there. But I do want this QT to know that Hillary is a total bitch.
Maybe just go with subtle red pills like not bringing up the present, but rather something in the past to take focus off present.
Think of it as Jewing the Jews. I'm sure you know what I mean.
Jeremiah Ward
Don't discuss politics with girls, OP. Women don't change their opinions, they just hide them when it suits.
Sebastian Lewis
are you trying to fuck said QT? if so see
Luis Stewart
>never been on a date
Evan Ward
>Trying to redpill a girl >talking politics to a girl Nigga shut the fuck about politics, be cocky about yourself and your achievements, talk gossip, and just have a damn good time and maybe you would fuck afterwards. She does not give a fuck about politics, all she cares about who is fucking who and who just got cheated on, you know drama.
Nicholas Peterson
Is very sad user.
Ayden Thompson
do not, i repeat, do not do this. She will act nice and pretend to understand as to not ruin the mood then text her friends about it
Zachary Johnson
it's complicated. I live in a super super liberal area, and we're going out to lunch because she's "never actually talked to a republican before"
so, she's interested in politics, and that's why we're going out to lunch.
but imma try to get some action, yes
Lucas Ward
>pls tell me what and also how to think
Just get fucked up and have some fun. She is not remotely interested in your pathetic attempts to engage her in any type of serious conversation. Nobody that you know genuinely wants to listen to you stumbling through that kind of shit.
Adrian Morris
m8 if she's a Hillary supporter, you don't want to put your dick anywhere near that. These people can't be redpilled. They're lost causes.
You dont want that to be the mother of your children.
Jacob Williams
I'm sorry user, It happened to me for a while too. Keep going, never give up
Kevin Perry
Ok, just don't get a venereal disease in the process from a skanky liberal.
Brandon Parker
You're a full blown retard if you're going to talk politics with a stupid broad. They don't like politics you dumb chimp. You're ultimately just after sex anyways so your best plan of action is what said.
I literally cringed reading your OP.
Brody Rogers
This is you!
Xavier Cruz
see
also, not that serious.
Elijah Wood
thnks m8
dont get with any skanky sheep, stay safe
Samuel Reyes
you stupid faggots, she's the one who wanted to talk politics. she brought it up last time and said "we should have lunch date to talk about the election!"
Cameron Richardson
Don't bother the second you start winning an argument in politics with them they'll just stop, say they are done, and talk about random shit.
Liam Lopez
OK then if she wants to talk to a republican then surprise her by not sperging out and seeming all extreme. It sounds like she's baiting you into reinforcing her opinions so beat her at her own game and play it cool. Do you want to get with this girl or just argue with her?
Brayden Watson
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Josiah Davis
She just wants a free lunch you idiot. Screencap this.
Angel Harris
eh, I like debating people, but I think she's kinda into me, and at the stage I'm at in life I'm just messing around
Kevin Wilson
holy shit I laughed
there's a saying that you shouldn't talk politics or religion at the dinner table for obvious reasons. if you can't even do that with your intimate immediate family guess what luck you have with a stranger but whatever. you're like 19 or some shit
Kayden James
I redpilled my family on the holocaust.
it's doable
Connor James
OP all you have you do is ask questions and not be super aggressive about your thoughts. For example questions such as: "How do you feel about Hillary setting up a private server, risking national security, and then deleting 30,000 emails? What about x, y, z?"
Stuff like that. When she is telling you she want's to hear your side of things, she is lying. She just wants you to listen to her. Also do not reveal her your power level but instead give little hints to it. Perhaps you should also plant the seed in her mind about how propaganda works in the real world. Try to present yourself as intelligent and eloquent. Do not get overexcited about a topic and keep your cool.
Dominic King
This guy has it. If she offers to pay for lunch or at least pay for her side, that's a good sign
Nolan Collins
thanks for actual advice. What about the powell and Rice stuff? did they do the same thing as hillary?
Nolan Young
OK well if you want to get with this girl then by all means do not start arguing with her. Play it cool, if you must then simplify your philosophies into very open ended, non threatening summaries. Red pilling liberal bitches is possible but it does not happen over lunch, in fact the more heated it gets the more she is going to feel that she was right and you were just crazy. I red pilled my gf but it was a long process, this girl isn't going to listen to a damn thing you have to say until she respects you.
Josiah Diaz
She might have said that's why she wants to meet you, but that will be over with the moment you begin to speak.
You're a vapid mushmind, that's why you made this thread, the idea of researching, constructing and then articulating your own fucking conclusions and opinions never even occurred to you.
Politics is just fashion to you.
You meeting her for lunch comes with it the anticipation that the topic might change from politics. This is ultimately your sole reason for meeting her, so you might as well spped up the process as able.
Mason Rogers
why dont you just bang her like a winner instead of spewing autistic redpill memes at her like a fedora'd faggot
>2016 >revealing your power level shiggy
William King
bay area here
this never ever works buddy, if anything just try to change her notion of the average republican from the typical muh koch bros creationist to alt-right memer
women are stupid, they want to conform, they will conform to your political beliefs when they realize they can't be without you
Parker Adams
your family thinks you're retarded behind your back
Ryan Price
I think a better strategy would be to say your pro Bernie, and critique Hillary from that perspective .
Or just don't talk politics on a date unless she brings it up. Your red like might be too bitter for her.
Ryan Walker
>not diversifying your opinion by asking a mongolian political analysis board their opinions
I'm doing research now, leaf. But I also wanted to post here to see if anyone else had any interesting arguments I could make use of.
Watch your tone with your betters, we might just stop buying your syrup and bankrupt your entire nation
Matthew Morgan
Depends on how old she is. If shes like 30 and remembers the 90's well, then sure. Otherwise, try to keep it relevant to the present.
Cameron Wood
Bro? Wtf. When you go out with someone, you don't talk politics, ESPECIALLY if you're some Sup Forums autist. You wait until you've gotten the puss first, then you drop the red pill.
Of course she'll think what you're saying is pure insanity, but once you start giving her regular doses of red pill, she'll start thinking to herself, "Wow is that a fact?".
Of course this all depends if you know what you're talking about and not some alt right cuck that parrots memes, posting threads on your favorite japanese image board asking a bunch of virgins how to talk to a girl.
Brayden Myers
bay area as well!!!
fucking hate my city, and I hate my liberal ass university. Only reason I go here is because I got in and tuition was so cheap compared to private schools. You can guess where I'm at.
David Reed
Simple, ask her why she supports Hillary over Trump. She will come up with the usual. Muh woman, muh liberal, muh not racist. So you will answer prepared with facts, Haiti, Lybia, paid speeches etc. Very important as always while talking to women, let her lead the conversation and leave out some easy conclusion so she can make them herself. If you will talk non stop she wont listen, will get bored and views everything you say as racist anyway.
Adrian Hernandez
no, she's not, but she's brought it up before when we briefly discussed the email situation.
Kevin Campbell
>I think a better strategy would be to say your pro Bernie, and critique Hillary from that perspective
>I think a better strategy would be to say your pro Bernie, and let someone else fuck her. preferrably a black man with a huge dick.
fixed for free. yw
Jaxon Bell
Also when I said 'keep your cool" I meant do NOT show her your temper and do not belittle her and treat her like a child (even tho bitches love that once you know them well enough). First impressions are more important than we give them credit for. No matter what bullshit she spews, try to discredit her logic but be gentle about it.
Carter Harris
kek
Grayson Garcia
Depends on how well you know her. A date probably isnt where you want to bring up her laughing about the rapist she defended or defending Bill against rapists.
Perhaps her laughing about war in Libya and Iran? Women dont understand war the way men do but they know it brings death.
Perhaps perjury before the House? Explain to her the House represents the people, all 300+ million of us and its a felony. Women do like to lie so that might now matter.
Caleb Johnson
OP if you go into this situation thinking "we're going to discuss politics" it vastly raises your chances to appear as an autistic fuck. normal people have conversations that are free flowing, not forced, and its your job to steer them a certain direction. in this case, what you're supposed to do with girls is: 1.ask them questions, and 2.let them talk
ask her questions about her own life, let her answer, listen to the answers, use them as segues to ask more questions, keep talking and try to sound interesting. you never have to even say your own opinion, you can say "oh, i heard such and such about those kinds of people" and its actually better that you dont say what you exactly believe. girls also are into ambiguous new age shit, so you might be better off saying something like "is what we believe in even real?" this has more of a chance to open her mind than talking about any fucking right wing policy shit.
Juan Rodriguez
change the subject from politics as fast as possible.
ask her what she does for fun, pretend to care about her shitty drawing, invite her back to your place for drinks
the red pill here is that the only value women have is their pussies. they don't think logically and won't appreciate your politics, no matter how sound they are
Jonathan Robinson
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Gabriel Walker
thanks, but see
Julian Garcia
wewlad then bring up every single one of her friends in positions of power. Show her how disingenuous crony officials are. Mention the bodies that drop every time somebody is put to testify against her. The whole shebang. Describe it as a web of connections that grows and grows until everyone if bought, paid for, or dead.
Juan James
I meant defending Bill against rape accusations. Women think with emotions with politics so the convo can get heated fast. Its a real touchy subject with them, most of them dont really know how to deal with discussing politics and they feel as if they are on the defensive with men right from the get go so it makes it difficult.
Kayden Scott
see, I'm not going straight into fucking Hillary mafia, even though we know it's true.
That's why people on this board get labled as craazy.
i gotta warm her up a bit before I stick that into the conversation
Landon Morgan
dont do anything wierd the whole night be normal at the end of the date say you had fun but would rather not have a second date because she supports someone who gets rapists off in court and laughs about it
Angel Young
Girls I've dated around with recently like that I'm passionate about keeping up with current events. Liberal women that I've dated like me more after seeing that I'm not backing down.
If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly.
Don't talk politics if you don't have the balls to stand by what you believe.
Blake Mitchell
UCSC? Fuck man I'm trying to get into Stanford but I'm already slipping. My GPA is 3.7 and when I took my first LSAT diagnostic, I couldn't even finish cause that shit was hard. The more I think about it the more I feel like giving up, but desu I won't bitch out now. Im just worried that I'm doing all this work and then even if I do somehow by gods graces get accepted, it's awful costs/community will just make it unbearable.
Joseph Richardson
Why not go out to see Hillarys America, then have dinner and drinks after. The rampaging Indian conservative will lay out all the faults for you, and you can discuss them over a steak and wine.
Oliver Bailey
just keep asking questions until she deflates her self. tell her to support hillary and her stances without attacking the other side.
Andrew Morgan
no, worse,
Berkeley. The center of FUCKING IDIOTS.
Keep trying man, don't give up on education. Worse case scenario, apply to Pepperdine. Good school, you can get in with a 3.7 no problem, and it's conservative.
Xavier Morris
Make her want the Johnson
Easton Peterson
actually, that's not even a bad idea...
you're pretty fucking based,
thanks man.
Liam Harris
U'll never get a second date if u start trying to convince her Hillary is bad. Don't be a fucking autist user.
Tyler Long
Oh btw. There's also the possibility that she brought up politics because she probably had an idea that you were passionate about it or something. It's quite possible that she just wanted a date and the politics part of it is secondary. Keep that in mind as soon as you guys meet up. Test the waters. If she brings up politics first then you can indulge yourself. If however, she avoid it like the plague then all she wanted was to get to know you, politics aside. This is kind crucial if you're looking to fuck.
Caleb Gonzalez
Fug Berkeley was my second choice law school bruhhhhh I have homies going to Berkeley fuuuuuck
good luck op. Last time I opened up to a girl about my politics she fugged off. She was Jewish and I was into Economics so I thought talking about banking systems would be interesting to her, but I guess not.
Nathaniel Brown
shut it, vlad
Adam Richardson
NOBODY WANTS THE JOHNSON
Xavier Jackson
berkeley is a shithole. absolute shit hole. The people are militantly liberal, violent as fuck, and disgustingly degenerate.
Noah Cox
Someone told me if I stayed away from sproul plaza then I could avoid the degeneracy. I was just gonna stick to boalt hall but I'm guessing the plaza is unavoidable. The bay is just pozzed, but these are really good fucking law schools.
Grayson Martin
I'll tell you know, the entire city of berkeley is a degenerate shithole. Luckily, I actually live right over the hills in a nice bastion of conservatism. But I go to berkeley, and I can tell you, berkeley is shit.
Logan Long
Married user here, it's better to make her like then love you first before you start firing the redpills. You don't want her to weed you out as one of the red-wing-weirdos just yet. Cheers.
Robert Bell
>arguing with a woman >on a date the fuck is wrong with you
Ethan Garcia
This ought to do it user
Bentley Kelly
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Eli Jones
nigga ignore politics unless she starts it in any case going any further than calling "it will be a historic moment" not-an-argument and explaining it (that identity doesn't matter, only content) is a bad idea and you shouldn't do it, a vague statement that politics is fucked up will do
Samuel Reed
Literally every single argument with a liberal in my entire life has gone exactly like that bar one, the one I had with my younger self
Ryan Thomas
>Talking politics with a girl on the first date
Gavin Butler
she IS establishment all the way takes foreign bribes corrupt as fuck on record for racist remarks
>trump is a wild-card she is proven shit
Carson Morales
Everyone who's against Hillary tends to get into an "accident". It can't be dismissed as conspiracy theory because the number of the people is nearing 100.
Parker Phillips
If you're asking user on Sup Forums how to redpill a girl during a lunch date you might as well cancel and save yourself the fucking money. Jesus Christ, man, it's like you're going out of your way to not get laid.
Charles Perry
it triggered me pretty hard too
lol you should definitely show her your powerlevel on the first date, then maybe afterwards you can show her all that spaghetti you keep in your pockets.
Kevin Perez
this guy gets it
Cameron Rodriguez
Ask her to tell you just one of Hillary's accomplishments as a legislator or Secretary of State.
She will sit there all ???? because there are none and you've won.
Checkmate.
Jason Thomas
If she lets Hillary win then she'll legalize the illegals, gain full control of congress and be able to basically make democrats the rulers of the USA forever, considering what Hillary and the DNC went through this election cycle, she should not want that. Hillary also takes money from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and more for "favors" and last but not least supported all of the invasions in the middle east that are giving Europe turmoil right now.
With Trump however you balance it out and ensure that there's intellectual diversity so nothing will always stay the same, meaning: No psuedo-dictators. Trump wouldn't have control over congress either.
Adrian Mitchell
Also Hillary is part of the people who are literally writing the TPP, if she says she's against it, she's lying. again.
And the TPP wishes to take away your freedums on the internet and other places.
Charles Gomez
lol 100% they do
Andrew Kelly
on the bubble as to whether or not he'll get into one the top universities in the country
thinking about quitting anyways because too many libs
lol get in first then you can worry about whether or not stanford lives up to your retarded Sup Forums standards.
Sebastian Jenkins
why choose either the left or right ball, when you can just have the johnson?
Angel Watson
i was literally replying to the first one
1. you're trusting that a woman actually wants what she says she wants 2. you're asking us for advice so clearly you have no idea what your talking about and steering the conversation away from politics is in your best interests
Lincoln Richardson
If I get in in the next couple years, op, I'll help u pay rent if you are still in the yay kek. We need to start a Bay Area right wing Union to counter balance the left wing degeneracy. See if thiel will help us bank roll it
Michael Gutierrez
The fact that OP is actually getting serious responses is even more goddamn hilarious. On the plus side, at least their weird ass standards will keep them from tainting the gene pool next generation.
This 100% if you don't give an her inch now you're more likely to give 8 later, if you know what I mean
Adrian Young
How about you just politely disagree or decline to comment on politics when talking to her and move on to another subject so you can just fuck the shit out of her?
Don't be a fucking retard sperg and start a peabrained political debate on a date.