MARVEL LEAKS

- Test screenings have been very positive so far

- The recent reshoots were to streamline Strange's training which takes up most of the second act, and also add a little more humor and a Tony Stark cameo

- Kevin Feige is being particularly careful with this movie because Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo are supposed to become major recurring characters in the MCU going forward

- The time stone is featured in the movie

- The movie takes place simultaneously to the MCU, with Stephen Strange's accident happening shortly after Tony Stark returns from Afghanistan and his training spanning all the other movies

- Mads Mikkelsen's character, Kaecilius, is aligned with Dormammu, who will have a bigger role in the sequels

- There are already plans for a sequel with Benedict Cumberbatch and Chiwetel Ejiofor certain to return, but there are no other developments as of right now

- The casting of the Ancient One was complex because of how people perceive it as an stereotype and because of the association with Tibet in light of how the Chinese box-office is important to movie studios nowadays. Tilda Swinton was picked because of he unusual she looks

- The movie is pretty standalone from the rest of the MCU per James Gunn's demands

- Ego is made out to be the main villain at first, but it is actually Ayesha, although Ego is also an antagonist. Taserface serves as a secondary foe

- Sylvester Stallone and Sharon Stone are playing members of the Ancients, a race of immortal aliens that hire the Guardians of the Galaxy to stop Ego, as part of a bigger plan masterminded by Ayesha

- Yondu and Nebula are joining the team alongside Mantis, who is Star-Lord's half-sister and a prisoner of Ego

- The Nova Corps will make an appearance and the Kree will also have a larger role

- Groot will remain child-sized for a large portion of the movie

- There's a minor romantic subplot between Star-Lord and Gamora following the seeds planted in the first movie

- Thanos won't appear in the movie, but will be referenced

- There'll be no infinity stones, although they are referenced

- The movie ending leads directly to "Avengers: Infinity War"

- There are plans for a sequel, but James Gunn still isn't officially attached to write and direct, although Marvel wants him to

- The movie has lower stakes in relation to other MCU movies and also a relatively lower budget

- The movie centers on Peter Parker struggling to balance his private life and his superhero life. As Peter, he's trying to ask his longtime crush Liz Allan for homecoming dance and fitting in with being the new kid in a prestigious school he got in as a scholarship, while as Spider-Man he's handling his first real supervillain, the Vulture

- Adrian Toomes, the Vulture, is a military scientist who creates a wingsuit using alien technology from "The Avengers", and gets fired from it. He eventually learns he needs it to live, steals it and goes on a rampage, killing his former superiors and trying to find a cure

- The Tinkerer is a minor villain, a former Stark Industries inventor who's supplyig crooks with cutting-edge weaponry and is forced to help the Vulture. He gives weapons to Shocker and his gang, who are opening antagonists

- Zendaya really is playing Mary-Jane, but that was a late addition from the latest script rewrite. At one point she really was "Michelle", an original character. She's Peter's classmate who has a crush on him, and they end up going to homecoming together. Like him, she's attending school on a scholarship. She'll be the main love interest in the sequels

- Flash was also going to an original character, "Manuel", but was made into Flash in the same rewrite that made Michelle into MJ

- There's no Jameson or Daily Bugle in the movie

- Tony Stark's role in the movie is pretty minor and he doesn't appear as Iron Man. He gives Peter some life advice when it looks like he can't deal with his first supervillain

- Stark mentions he's keeping the Accords off of Peter's back because he's only dealing with minor street crimes, but might not be able to protect him if he keeps branching out to dealing with supervillains

- The movie will have a serious tone with little moments of humor, like "The Winter Soldier", which is being used as a template

- Loki is the one that sends Hulk to the gladiator planet where Thor later ends up, Valkyrie is also a warrior in that planet and befriends Thor, but they don't actually become a couple although there's a spark between them

- Jane Foster is not referenced at all in the script

- Thor, Hulk and Valkyrie have to find the Soul Gem in order to defeat Loki and Hela, who has helped Loki usurp the throne, but is also planning to destroy the Nine Realms in the Ragnarok

- Loki is eventually betrayed by Hela and helps Thor defeat her, but then betrays him as well and gives the Soul Gem to Thanos, as well as the location of the other Infinity Stones, for his own protection when Thanos launches his offensive on the universe

- Skurge is Hela's champion, but he follows her under false pretenses, and turns against her when he finds out what her true plans are, holding off her armies alone at the cost of his own life to give Thor a chance

- Surtur and the Fenris Wolf will appear, among others

- Odin has been living as a vagrant on Earth ever since Loki usurped the throne and banished him. He gets his full power back in the final scene to battle the Ragnarok monsters

- Sif, the Warriors Tree and Heimdall are returning. Heimdall dies

- Doctor Strange will have a cameo

- This is supposed to be an actual political thriller and Marvel's most serious movie by far

- Erik Kilmonger is the main villain. He's a childhood rival of T'Challa and Wakanda's finest warrior. As such, he was supposed to become the Black Panther, who is basically Wakanda's chosen protector but T'Challa took the mantle to avenge his father, which Kilmonger views as T'Challa stealing his purpose, since once a warrior swears the oath and becomes the Panther, they're bonded until the warrior is slain or grooms a successor. So he conspires to usurp the throne alongside Ulysses Klaw

- Nakia is T'Challa and Kilmonger's childhood friend and there's a love triangle between them

- Kilmonger's plan involves the Accords, and amounts to triggering a war between Wakanda and the United Nations over their Vibranium reserves

- Secretary Ross will be heavily featured and Stark is expected to appear as well

- Bucky will have a supporting role and be brought out of ice

- They'll heavily explore the mythology of the Black Panther and the traditions and customs of Wakanda

>minority sidekick
>girlfriend
>comic relief guy

>minority sidekick
like in the comics?

- The movie will center on Scott Lang and Hope Van Dyne on the run after the events of "Captain America: Civil War", trying to prevent the Ant-Man technology from falling into the wrong hands

- Hank Pym will return, but apparently something will take him out of commission for a large portion of the movie

- Luis will return, but the other two, Kurt and Dave, probably won't. Instead, they'll introduce a new batch of quirky criminal associates of Luis

- Although they want to bring Cassie and her mother back, there's a strong possibility Bobby Cannavale's character gets written out of the movie

- The original Wasp will appear, and although numerous actresses have been named like Catherine Zeta-Jones, Michelle Pfeiffer, Julianne Moore and Sela Ward, there's no official shortlist and no offers have been made

- Secretary Ross will also be featured here

- Eric O'Grady will be featured as a government-sponsored Ant-Man

- The villains are apparently heavily modified versions of Egghead and Whirlwind, with Egghead being Pym's nemesis back in the Cold War

- There'll be more of the Microverse

- It's apparently maintaining the mostly humorous tone and the elements of a heist movie

- Very early stages of production, the studio is meeting with numerous potential directors

- Carol Danvers will be introduced and get her powers in "Avengers: Infinity War" after an encounter with Kree technology during a battle with Thanos

- Yon-Rogg will be the villain

- Writers are still figuring out the supporting cast, but two characters already confirmed are Monica Rambeau and Karla Sofen

- Although he won't be involved in her origin, there are discussions to include Mar-Vell, the original Captain Marvel from the comics

- One of the biggest arguments is whether they should give Carol Danvers a romantic storyline in the movie. There's been talks of adding either Mar-Vell or her original firstg boyfriend Michael Barnett, or maybe even a version of Dr. Philip Lawson, Mar-Vell's secret identity, unaffiliated with Mar-Vell

- The studio is really careful with this one, as they want Captain Marvel to become one of their stahlwart characters

Why should I believe your fan fiction?

>OP pulling shit out of his ass: The Thread
oh boy I sure do love these

Nebula joining the team... HOLY FUCK YES!

Tony Stark showing up in every movie.

>Flash was also going to an original character, "Manuel", but was made into Flash in the same rewrite that made Michelle into MJ
>Zendaya really is playing Mary-Jane, but that was a late addition from the latest script rewrite. At one point she really was "Michelle", an original character. She's Peter's classmate who has a crush on him, and they end up going to homecoming together. Like him, she's attending school on a scholarship. She'll be the main love interest in the sequels
Who is behind those rewrites and why no one is sending death threats and pizzas to him?

Someone at Marvel has to have noticed that they keep giving black sidekicks to white heroes.

>- Zendaya really is playing Mary-Jane, but that was a late addition from the latest script rewrite. At one point she really was "Michelle", an original character. She's Peter's classmate who has a crush on him, and they end up going to homecoming together. Like him, she's attending school on a scholarship. She'll be the main love interest in the sequels
Please die in a fire you stupid fucks.

>Skurges last stand on the big screen
Dont fuck it up

Most of those are actually true tho.

>The studio is really careful with this one, as they want Captain Marvel to become one of their stahlwart characters

They probably should have done this years ago instead of after Infinity War when people are going to start to stop caring about the MCU

Monica in Cap Marvel and Bucky in Black Panther plz and thanks.

Captain Marvel is between the two Infinity War films.

>One of the biggest arguments is whether they should give Carol Danvers a romantic storyline in the movie
Fuck No.

>normies are going to NOT MUH over the Avengers just like comic readers have been doing over the comics
pottery

There aren't two Infinity War films anymore. They're two separate standalone Avengers movies now.

>Two supporting characters already confirmed: Monica and Karla Sofen.

Not adding Jessica Drew would be a crime against humanity. She better be getting her own movie, then.

>The movie will have a serious tone with little moments of humor, like "The Winter Soldier", which is being used as a template

Phewf. This is the one thing I was worried about. I loved What We Do In The Shadows and 80s-nostalgia-pandering but that logo and all the interviews where they're saying "yeah it's a buddy adventure movie :^)" freaked me out. Hope you're not a deceiver OP. I want just one really good Thor movie.

>The movie will have a serious tone with little moments of humor, like "The Winter Soldier", which is being used as a template
I call bullshit. Especially with Hobodin.

>The movie is pretty standalone from the rest of the MCU per James Gunn's demands
It's crazy they let him do this but I'm glad they do

That's not entirely true. Infinity War and part 2 [whatever it's going to be called] are still a thing, they just changed the titles so people wouldn't think that it's literally a 4 hour movie cut into two parts. But it's still essentially a two part movie. The story will begin in the first one and Thanos won't be defeated until the second one.

i like it.

I'm not gonna miss Jane was much as i'm gonna miss Darcy


this sounds like trash, the 3 of them.

Separated by a single year, filmed back-to-back, and will likely be one continuous story with Thanos as the villain of both.

They dropped the Part 1/Part 2 gimmick because audiences are sick of it (See: Divergence). Thematically they may have something that separates them (first is set in space, second is set on Earth, or vice-versa), but the 2019 film is the grand event.

I love the (possibility) that they're going to continue using Ross in these movies. They should bring back Tim Blake Nelson. He doesn't HAVE to be in a Hulk movie.

We don't know if they are going for the "lol quirky hobo" route.

>>Stark is expected to appear
I'm growing skeptical...

>- Zendaya really is playing Mary-Jane, but that was a late addition from the latest script rewrite. At one point she really was "Michelle", an original character. She's Peter's classmate who has a crush on him, and they end up going to homecoming together. Like him, she's attending school on a scholarship. She'll be the main love interest in the sequels
>- Flash was also going to an original character, "Manuel", but was made into Flash in the same rewrite that made Michelle into MJ
>- There's no Jameson or Daily Bugle in the movie

We've seen him as a hobo

- The studio originally planned for one big movie divided in two parts, but the Russos preferred to make them standalone stories that compliment each other

- "Avengers: Infinity War" will center on the Avengers trying to prevent Thanos from assembling the Infinity Gauntlet. He arrives on Earth to reclaim the Mind Stone from the Vision and the Time Stone from Doctor Strange, leading to a vicious battle

- The Avengers will still be fractured as the movie begins and will have to learn how to work together to stop Thanos

- The heroes expected to appear are Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Winter Soldier, Black Panther and Doctor Strange, plus the Guardians of the Galaxy arrive to help in the third act of the movie

- The Vision will be destroyed early on and the Mind Stone is taken

- Carol Danvers is introduced in the movie as a soldier helping the Avengers fend off Thanos attack

- The movie will end making it appear as if Thanos has been defeated, when he hasn't. He'll return with the full power of the Infinity Gauntled in the "Avengers 4" production, forcing all of Earth's heroes to join forces to stop him

- Loki will be featured in both movies as Thanos' advisor, while secretly conspiring against him

- Thanos will have a large army, the Deviants, to battle the Avengers

- Scarlet Witch will be pivotal to Thanos's defeat

>Tentative titles for "Avengers 4" include "The Thanos Imperative", "Thanos War" and "Infinity Crusade"

- "Infinity War" and its sequel conclude pretty much all overarching storylines from the MCU all the way back to "Iron Man", while planting the seeds for a new status quo that'll inform the next batch of movies

> Heimdall dies

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Well he's definitely in Spider-Man. That's confirmed. I feel like RDJ loves this shit now and since he won't have any major parts aside from Avengers movies, cameos are perfect. He loves being that connective tissue.

Of course, I'd rather them spread shit out and have other people in each other's films and you know, CROSSOVER WITH TV YOU STUPID FUCKS.

Kek, you stupid nigger, BP and Ragnarok sound great.

I want Spider Woman to appear and it would be relatively easy to do. Plus I want to see Carol give Jessica shit over the name
>"Ta-Da! What do you think?"
>"I think Spider Man is gonna sue somebody"
>"Who? Its not like theres a lot of-"
>"Black Widow"
>"Fuck you Carol"
At the very least she'd be a great supporting character

>- The Vision will be destroyed early on and the Mind Stone is taken
God Fucking Damn It!

Seriously, why is this allowed? Can we like, bitch really loud at someone to force them to cater to our whims and change all this?

>- Eric O'Grady will be featured as a government-sponsored Ant-Man

PLEASE

>O'Grady
Fuck that guy

That doesn't mean the result will be as great.

Cringe.

Ragnarok yes, i said it.

Black panther sounds boring as fuck.

I expected something more hype, not some
>muh panther is mine
>no mine
>this grill!
>triangle!
>muh panther rights!

>Most of those are actually true tho.
taken from rumors and things we already know
>leaks
>legit

>dead Vision

No thanks.

>forcing all of Earth's heroes to join forces to stop him
All the canon ones at least.

Well this shit is all fake, since it's been confirmed Thor and Loki are both stranded at the end of Ragnarok and that's when they find Odin and get the business card for Dr. Strange.

No, they should have the non-canon ones show up too

even deadpool

Thor and Hulk, not Loki. Loki warns Thor about Thanos coming and then escapes.

>Deadpool cucking Thanos
Hmm.

>holding off her armies alone at the cost of his own life to give Thor a chance
DAT SCENE
DAT
SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Not even attempting to do JJ
lel

>Eric O'Grady
WHAT
you see those phones over there? yeah you better hold 'em

>tfw no Coulson, Daisy, or the Netflix heroes

- Iron Man is expected to die in "Avengers 4" due to Robert Downey Jr.'s contract expiring and because it's the most logical resolution to his overarching storyline

- Thor might die as negotiations with Chris Hemsworth are still ongoing

- Hawkeye and Black Widow might also die, as negotiations are still ongoing. While it's likely that Scarlett Johansson will renew her contract, Jeremy Renner probably won't

- The Hulk won't die and Mark Ruffalo is slated for further movies

- In Phase 4, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch are expected to take even more prominent roles

- There's interest in She-Hulk, but it's complicated due to Marvel Studios' arrangement with Universal Pictures over Hulk movies

- There's interest in introducing Hercules to the movies

- There will be a new overarching storyline that'll inform Phase 4, but Feige and his associates are still figuring out whether they'll do something as wide-spanning as Thanos again, or keep these big story arcs confined to each phase

- With Norman Osborn now back in their catalogue, there is interest in further exploring the political aspects of the MCU with a version of the Dark Reign storyline, including the introduction of Sentry

- There's also interest in a version of the Secret Invasion storyline which would be carefully laid out over several movies. If they ever do something as big and ambitious as Thanos, it would be this

- Inhumans are still in development, but the recent falling-out with Ike Permultter, the biggest pusher for the project, and the Inhumans also being tangled up with the TV department through Agents of SHIELD means it's very likely they'll officially scrap it.

- There's renewed interest in Thunderbolts after Suicide Squad wasn't quite what "trailers made it out to be"

>Black Panther and Scarlet Witch are expected to take even more prominent roles
Excellent.

You might want to cap/archive this thread because it seems seriously legitimate.

Also,
>No antman, wasp or Spider-Man in Infinity War
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Suicide Squad still is making bank though. Beat Ant-Man.

Please...

Why are you surprised? IO said this last year and Civil War proved it. The Russos are scared of Vision. He's to powerful and unless they amp up the power of all the other Avengers he frankly makes them useless

If WB gets it into China like they're trying to it will probably beat GOTG as well

- Marvel and Fox have improved relations lately, with Marvel authorizing that "Deadpool" feature a Helicarrier. Fox is holding on to the X-Men, but recognize they could be managing the property better, and there's talks of Marvel helping out with mapping out an expansive X-Men movie universe revamp that better uses the properties in exchange for getting the Fantastic Four back

- Bucky was propped up as a potential replacement for Captain America back when it looked like Chris Evans wouldn't come back post-"Infinity War". He's since changed his mind, so Bucky is staying as the Winter Soldier for the time being, and might get a spin-off franchise. One of the ideas being discussed is pairing him with the Black Widow for a new movie, should Scarlett Johansson renew her contract, or maybe with Falcon given the positive reception to their dynamics in "Civil War".

- Iron Man is considered the lead character of the MCU throughout the first three phases, and from phase 4 onwards, it'll be Cap and Black Widow (if Johansson comes back).

- Even though Iron Man is extremely popular, they've decided against recasting him as RDJ became too ingrained in people's minds. They are, however, considering the possibility of another person taking up the mantle, although the most obvious candidate, Don Cheadle, is basically out of the running as he's getting too old and isn't popular enough

>and also add a little more humor and a Tony Stark cameo
Kill me.

If this is true, does that mean that Loki could be Thanos' yes man instead of Mephisto in Infinity War?

Also I really hope at some point Loki manages to grab the gauntlet and use it to bring Frigga back to life. It would be a feel good moment that carries how much he actually cared for his mother.

>There's a minor romantic subplot between Star-Lord and Gamora following the seeds planted in the first movie
Yuck

>- Iron Man is considered the lead character of the MCU throughout the first three phases, and from phase 4 onwards, it'll be Cap and Black Widow (if Johansson comes back).

It honestly seems like Cap is the main character now

Can they even use Jessica?

>Killing Hawkeye
>not just letting him live with his family in peace, never to be bothered again

I'm glad Evans is staying around. He's my Captain.

Why not? She was never a Spider-Man character, and even if she was part of those rights, nothing stopping them now.

How long did it take you to make all this up OP and is it autism?

>Loki is eventually betrayed by Hela and helps Thor defeat her, but then betrays him as well and gives the Soul Gem to Thanos
Nice even though these are all fake

When Captain Marvel releases, everybody will forget about Black Widow. Captain Marvel will be the female lead of the MCU.

>introduction of Sentry

YESSSSS

This will probably happen.
Loki is the most popular villains/one of the most popular characters in general in the MCU and introducing Marvel's version of the Devil all of a sudden would throw a lot of people off.

>Odin has been living as a vagrant on Earth ever since Loki usurped the throne and banished him. He gets his full power back in the final scene to battle the Ragnarok monsters

Ohhhhhh shit. Please, please let us have just a few brief moments of Odin absolutely wrecking face.

>muh non canon meme

>and also add a little more humor and a Tony Stark cameo

Oh for fuck sake.

the end of infinity war part 2 will just be thanos crying in the corner slowly jerking off while deadpool rails lady death from behind

While Careless Whisper plays?

How the fuck else is Thanos supposed to complete the Gauntlet?

it will be that and it will dissolve with deadpool snapping his fingers with the infinity gauntlet while looking back at the camera and winking

Blame Perlmutter being butthurt for that

I'm happy they did rewrites. I mean think about it.
>Original script had no Mary Jane or Flash. Instead it had Michelle and Manuel, two original characters.

In other words:
>Not an origin story.
>Doesn't have Peter working as a reporter, also no Daily Bugle or Jameson.
>Peter is a poor kid struggling to fit in at a rich kid school.
>Main plot is about Peter trying to ask out his crush Liz Allan to homecoming.
>No goblin shit and thus probably no Osborns in general.
It wouldn't feel like a Spider-Man movie. It would feel like a run of the mill Disney live action kids movie that happens to have Spider-Man in it and take place in the MCU.

I'm glad they're at least rewriting characters as Flash and MJ even if they don't "look" anything like Flash and MJ in the comics. At least it means that Peter and Liz are interacting with other Spider-Man characters and probably working off that backstory (eg. Liz and Flash seems obvious). With any luck it might actually feel like a "teen Spider-Man in high school movie" as opposed to a "teen high school movie with Spider-Man".

My guess is Marvel is going to focus on how brilliant, nerdy, and dorky Peter is as opposed to how strong and cool Spider-Man is. That means more emphasis on Peters inventions than Spider-Man's powers and more emphasis on cleverness in fights + fighting banter than flashy feats of strength. In other words, rather than an origin of Spider-Man this will be more of an introduction to Peter who is actually pretty amazing even without powers.

I like the inclusion of Monica and Karla, but Mar-Vell is a fucking must.

>a Tony Stark cameo

I hope it's an alternate version of Tony who's like a hobo or something.

Why do they have to kill off everyone who doesn't want to come back?

Just have them retire ffs - just have them cameo occasionally like Nick Fury

>Bucky is staying as the Winter Soldier for the time being, and might get a spin-off franchise. One of the ideas being discussed is pairing him with the Black Widow for a new movie, should Scarlett Johansson renew her contract, or maybe with Falcon given the positive reception to their dynamics in "Civil War".
Bucky and Sam buddy cop dynamic is so much more appealing than BuckyNat. So glad they're not together in the comics anymore.

is Tony Stark getting a cameo in every single move between now and Infinity War?

>Avengers: The Thanos Imperative
I fuck with it

So are we actually getting Shocker or is he just regular thug named Herman?

I'm okay with it if that means he dies in IW.

I feel like Avengers 3 should be The Thanos Imperative or Infinity Crusade, while Avengers 4 should be Infinity War

>The casting of the Ancient One was complex because of how people perceive it as an stereotype and because of the association with Tibet in light of how the Chinese box-office is important to movie studios nowadays.

Fuck the Chinese, why not just fucking make it Nepal instead of Tibet? Tibet isn't the only fucking Himalayan country with remote ass temples.

My biggest problem is that they decided to go with who they did as MJ and Flash. That fucker is nothing like Flash and we all know it. Same with Zendaya. She's nothing like MJ and doesn't even look the part. I'll probably still like the movies, but that won't stop me from hatinig the castingi