Memes aside, who do you think should have won WW2?

I see a lot of Sup Forumsacks saying things like "we fought the wrong enemy" and "Hitler dindu nuffin". Are these all said just for the keks, or do you goys wholeheartedly believe these things?

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We should of steamrolled the Germs, instead of barely winning

I whole heartily think the axis were "the good guys"

The only thing hitler did wrong was kill too many Eastern Europeans

Hitler

This pretty much. Considering what the world has become since; a total jew takeover and destruction of white countries

Finland

Hitler
t. Slav who's ancestors would've probably been killed but has no issues with this because I don't want to be alive anyway.

Hitler

Hitler was a decorated war hero who outsourced nearly 100% of his master plan. Factually speaking he literally dindu nuffin to no one during ww2, personally.

Joseph Stalin was the biggest piece of shit that ever lived. You're lucky Hitler stopped him from invading all of Europe.

Our Queen's Army should of been given Berlin. We also should of finished off the Russians for good too

War hero Hitler

>when the shrooms start hitting you.gif

He was a war hero in ww1

Fascist Britain, led by Oswald Mosley, should have joined forces with the Axis and help them win the war.

>Stabbed Germany in the back to satisfy Stalin

Yea, no.

UK shoulda won the war, but the USA won in the end, rip the empire... If only you fucks accepted hitler's peace offcer before the battle of britain even began... you're gonna be allowed to keep the empire and real democracy alive, instead of this fucked up coorporativism we have now.

There should have been a third force unaffilated with the jewish communists and german socialists. Both sides in WWII were pretty fucking shit, but Hitler clearly was the lesser evil. The much, much lesser evil.

look at my flag

the answer to your question is simple:
hitler should have won when you don't know if i'm achmed or hans.

What is he looking at that is making him smile so much?

>barely winning
>hiding on island and bombing innocent children

I was being serious.

Yeah, I dislike Sup Forumss view that the lolohaust was fake. Theres so much evidence to prove that it was real and all Sup Forums has is a few infographics quoting highly dodgy sources. I still believe that Jews are fucking scum though

The Jews should have lost but they all fled to America.

Even Churchill (the bought, obese and alcoholic war mongerer) realized in the end that they fought the wrong people. Go figure.

Also being saved by Polish and Czechoslovak pilots but keep going on with the "English RAF stopped hitler and shiet senpai"

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wtf i love hitler now
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Stalin should have kept going into western Europe, right up to the Iberian peninsula and to the channel and beyond.

>Mfw the US was already subverted as Patton wanted to stomp out Russia while they had the chance
>he mysteriously dies in a car wreck later

Patton was a patriot

The holocaust did happen (only the biggest morons would believe it to be 100% fabrication) but it's the statistics and testimonies of deaths and punishments that are highly dubious. In other words, it's been exaggerated.

>you're gonna be allowed to keep the empire and real democracy alive, instead of this fucked up coorporativism we have now.

You are a bit late to the show. Even British PM Disraeli said around 1860 that the elected people don't have a say anymore. Britain was controlled by (((big money)) way before 1900.

I can also mention i met 2 russian nazis just 3 weeks ago which is strange to me since the nazis plan for all eastern europeans (slavs) in the wwii was to murder most of them and use the remaining ones as workslaves, ultimately murdering them also when they were not needed anymore.

There's not much "good" alternatives
>Stalin wins and sells us all into basically slavery until he dies of a stroke 20 years later
>Allies win and we fall to degeneracy
>Hitler wins and puts us in psuedo-slavery
The good ones though
>Hitler wins and establishes a fair reign for the germanic peoples and the people who aided him
>Hitler wins and establishes a fair reign for the white peoples and exterminates niggers and arabs off of the planet

mostly because hitlers motives were unclear to me, i don't want to be under 100% control with thought crime and shit but I don't want to be so free that we freefall into degeneracy.

Hitler should've kept to himself and not taken over Europe and gotten destroyed in return. I'd honestly like to see how the Third Reich would be doing today. I'd guess it'd be a pretty good place to live in.

Murder over a hundred million people? Sure.

If he'd done that Stalin would have had time to rebuild his military and invade the rest of Europe.

Mussolini actually slowed Hitler down by invading greece, forcing him to redirect some of his troops to aid Mussolini because he was a dumbass, Mussolini should have held out of Greece until the Soviets were cleared and they would have won.

Poland.
Germany got btfo and loose plebiscite areas, Czechia and maybe Ruhr area but are not eternally cucked.
Allies not fail for Soviet sponsored decolonisation meme.
Komitern stays shithole that it is and fails soon.

We should have done what Patton said. Once we'd beaten the Nazis, we should have gone after the Russians. Easy win confirmed

But would Europe have been able to hold the Soviets back? I'd think all of Europe against the Soviets may have stood a good enough chance, especially if Germany was with them.

Danger 5 is criminally underrated.

But why would Jews slay each other? ;)

Most of Europe was absolutely ravaged, Stalins plan was to clean up the rest of Europe after the shitshow as over.

Next time without Italy.

>The world is going to shit, so that makes the defeated side the good goys!

Now you're just hypothesizing

I'm talking about if there never was a WWII, if Germany had never invaded other countries. I'm talking about what would happen if Stalin had invaded all of Europe, so it was essentially Europe vs. the Soviets. Who would win?

Well obviously it wasnt a clean 6million but it cant be denied that the holocaust easy numbered into the millions

soviets. it wouldnt be just a war but a total economic ideological and military struggle. look at what happened to spain and imagine a europe without fascism

>Memes aside, who do you think should have won WW2?

Hitler.

Stalin

damn, how many Sup Forums passes did you buy?

The deaths and human experimentation were very real, but a lot of other stuff was mostly just a result of concentration camp guards cracking under the pressure and torturing people for their own personal enjoyment. Basically the same deal as prison guards today being found guilty of raping prisoners, making them fight in pits, boiling them to death in the showers, making them rape each other and watching, stripping them naked and beating them, and other sadistic shit.

Here's why the death camps make sense. Basically, fascism relies on theft to function - a bit like communism, except fascists only steal from minorities and then give it to the majority. The problem is that you eventually run out of other people's money (even Jewish money) and so now you have to pay for all these poor people that aren't allowed to work, own property, or leave.

So, in order to deal with the drags on society, they start killing everyone that didn't have any money (Jews, Gypsies, cripples, gays) because they didn't want to have to waste money keeping them alive. They tried lots of ways of killing people, but the death camps were the cheapest way to do it. They could only process so many people at a time, though, so a lot were kept in the camps until their turn in the ovens came.

This is also why fascism failed. Because it relies on theft to function, they needed to invade more and more countries in order to keep their economy afloat. If Hitler stopped at Poland, there would never have been a war - but if he stopped at Poland, they would have either needed to introduce capitalist reforms or watch the entire economy fall apart when there isn't anything left to steal.

Its not about WW2. The Germans should have won the first world war. You would have seen a rise in nationalism instead of the bullshut cuckoldry that was a result of the Germans losing WW2.

If the USSR would have started a surprise attack, then they easily would have taken all of europe. Their military was so fucking massive, that a surprise attack would have overrun germany in 2-3 month, France wouldn't have lost just as fast and Britain would also be gone. The USSR had 100 times the amount of paratroopers the other countries had combined... deliberately to capture an island. The USSR had as much soldiers and tanks than the others combined together with vast resources... Only thing fucking them over would be increadebly long supply lines, this was already an issue for Russia in WW1 and without lend lease in WW2, they could not have stabilized supply to the front to reach germany... or even not being able to push them back.

I don't know how I feel about the second season. It doesn't have the same feel as the first. I still enjoyed it though.

Japan should have never attacked Pearl Harbor.
USA should have allied with Germany.

>T: country didn't even fight in ww2

Germany was already doomed at that point. Condition for peace was either driving the Germans out of Finland or being swallowed by SU like the rest of Eastern Europe.

German military was also pretty advanced at that time though. So let's think here:

What if Hitler's "superweapons" were able to be developed (rockets, jets, etc.), would those have been able to stall Soviet advances?

And what if the US went overseas to assist? Then we'd have the entire European military with the main bulk of the US military fighting against the Soviets.

Would the outcome be any different if these were to happen?

two greatest lies told about ww2:
1)6 gorillion
2)nazis were the good guys

If you really think about it, the Japanese were fucking idiots for attacking America. Only thing they had going for them was their military was complete fanatics and would fight to the death and then some.

Took 2 fucking nukes and hundreds of thousands of soldiers to get the point across that they should've left us the fuck alone.

That was the idea. The first is low budget 60's spy thriller inspired whilst the second season is 80's...inspired by yuppies pop culture and crack I think :D

Difficult to say. After reading Hitler's books and final journal notes in his bunker I believe that he in fact was a genius and had a worthy plan for the future. The problem is that even if Germany won back then, it would have crumbled a few years after the victory. In fact, everything crumbled during the war. Relations with Japan broke down, Italy actively fought instead of being passive like originally planned, England refused all diplomatic talks, France was surprisingly overwhelmed, which also ruined all plans, Stalin advanced while putting Hitler into endless negotiations and finally the US entering the war, endless traitors among his ranks etc. Germany back then couldn't possibly have won and Hitler agreed to this in his final notes. Fun fact: he said that in the future Germany must fight wars alone, with not a single ally since they always ruin our grand plans. But winning or losing wouldn't have made a difference in the long run really. There were no plans for attacking the US and the invasion of Russia was also the means to force them into negotiations, nothing more. Both those giants would have survived at any rate. Also very interesting: in his second to last note ever he believed that both Russia and the US will fall eventually and the empire of the rising sun will dominate the planet: China.

Are you making that shit up along the way?

>camp guards cracking under the pressure and torturing people for their own personal enjoyment.
Just torturing people and killing them "for fun" gave you the death penalty. The other officers even had the right to execute you the moment they catch you red handed. And yes, this was done.

>Basically, fascism relies on theft to function - a bit like communism, except fascists only steal from minorities and then give it to the majority.
>I switch out Socialism to Fascism and hope nobody notices

>So, in order to deal with the drags on society, they start killing everyone
Did this happen in Fascist Italy a lot? Like 100-200k dead people just killed? Even in Nazi Germany killing them doesn't make sense because they were used and needed for slave labour.

>They tried lots of ways of killing people, but the death camps were the cheapest way to do it.
Creating an entire "industry" instead of just giving them a single bullet or just letting them starve is cheaper? This is some serious mental gymnastics.

>They could only process so many people at a time, though, so a lot were kept in the camps until their turn in the ovens came.
Ok the letting thousands wait for the "oven", feeding them, giving them a dentist and a doctor is cheaper than letting them starve?

>This is also why fascism failed. Because it relies on theft to function
Actually it failed because half the planet made war with them and destroyed it by force, contrary to communism/socialism which always fails on it's own after some time.

>If Hitler stopped at Poland, there would never have been a war
You mean after or before invading Poland? No matter which you pick, both would have led to war for Germany.

That's looking more and more likely with this election...

>German military was also pretty advanced at that time though.

True but a surprise attack by the USSR (on an completely unprepaired germany) would have taken berlin after 2 or maybe 3 weeks.

>What if Hitler's "superweapons" were able to be developed (rockets, jets, etc.), would those have been able to stall Soviet advances?

Yes the superweapons would have helped. Imagine long range heavy jet bombers flying straight to moscow leveling the cities. The german went mad and probably would have build a bomber bigger than anything we have today just for show. They would have gotten air superiority in any case, against any enemy. They would have just needed bombers and nothing else, because the enemy couldn't reach them.

>And what if the US went overseas to assist?

Getting troops to Europe mainland would have taken too long to stall the soviets. To help, US should invade over alaska and destroy the soviet production capabilities in the east. A two war front would cripple them greatly. If US would do that, than Europe would be able to repell a soviet surprise attack. Half of Germany would probably be gone either way but that can be easily rebuild since the damage would be less compared to the actual WW2 aftermath.

Where can I read his final notes?

Obviously the Allies should have avoided war with Hitler, he didn't want a war in the first place and tried to avoid it. The real threat was communism.

It would have been better for the Russian people and all other people if everyone dogpiled the USSR instead. The West as a whole would have avoided the cultural marxist subversion of the Cold War, proxy wars ect

The reason this didn't happen and there was war with Germany is ONLY because of the international jews (the same people causing constant war in the middle east)

Everyone got jewed and it was a world changing blunder, possibly a world ending blunder , the effects are till being felt

i do believe in it!
>not joking
People will one day realise that the ''holocaust'' is an oax created by the jews and communists..
> History is written by the victors.. and the true victors were the jews
Hitler was the best leader a nation EVER had!
>National Socialism is life
#Hitlerwasright

>oh no Hitler acknowledge biology and the existence of races, something that we still don't do

Could you imagine what the world would have been like if communism was crushed in the 1940s and a strong Germany was allowed to exist in Europe ? We are witness to the results of this mistake everyday of our lives

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This is a good source.

He wrote this:

If North America does not succeed in evolving a
doctrine less puerile than the one which at present
serves as a kind of moral vade mecum and which is
based on lofty but chimerical principles and so-called
Christian Science, it is questionable whether it will for
long remain a predominantly white continent. It will
soon become apparent that this giant with the feet of
clay has, after its spectacular rise, just sufficient
strength left to bring about its own downfall. And
what a fine chance this sudden collapse will offer to
the yellow races! From the point of view of both
justice and history they will have exactly the same
arguments (or lack of arguments) to support their
invasion of the American continent as had the
Europeans in the sixteenth century. Their vast and
undernourished masses will confer on them the sole
right that history recognizes— the right of starving
people to assuage their hunger — provided always that
their claim is well backed by force !

Thanks

Hitler was the good goy.
youtube.com/watch?v=SImdg8Zp5zs

t. country that has never won a war.

They had two really bad options. We had already stated we were ready to fight them if they tried to take our rightful oil. So either they magically had to find another source of fuel, or they had to blitz us and hope we would not be able to rebuild our navy until they had finished taking over Asia. Also, the people in charge weren't as smart as some of the slightly more junior politicians/officers that had spent time overseas, e.g. Yamamoto, who knew it was a bad idea to join up with Hitler/attack Pearl Harbor.

Fight the commies, let the germans do what they need to do, if they try to subvert americanism. literally destroy it's entire population. it would have been less painful than neutering them and allowing terrorists to rape their people culture and country until they all died.

Most of them are for keks, but a few people actually believe it.

Churchill regretted fighting Hitler, as did Patton himself.

Nazis dindu nuffin'.

All China has to do is stay isolationist until the west collapses on its self. Nuclear arsenals of the west will fall into decay.

The mud races will not be able to stop them

Yes, I for one am so glad we liberated those poor misunderstood money-grubbing, nation-destroying parasites from those evil environmentalist, self-sufficient, family oriented nationalists. Look at where it got the US and Europe now.

>Churchill regretted fighting Hitler

Source?

It would be a huge redpill 4me friend.

Fuck off, you scrammed out through Dunkirk as soon as you were surrounded and then didn't do shit until literally half the planet was on your side.

Had there not been the channel between you and the Germans you guys would have the same surrender monkey reputation as the French.

It's one of his quotes, I can't remember where but I've seen it before. A lot of the Allies regretted blowing Germany the fuck out when they realized what a bigger problem the Soviets would become.

How would the world look like if Axis won WW2?

>German worldwide language

What's next?

>Just torturing people and killing them "for fun" gave you the death penalty. The other officers even had the right to execute you the moment they catch you red handed. And yes, this was done.
Yes, and people who torture prisoners today are caught and stopped too. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was just rarer than portrayed in history books.

>I switch out Socialism to Fascism and hope nobody notices
It's called National Socialism for a reason, retard. It's socialism, but instead of taking from the rich you take from foreigners and minorities.

>Did this happen in Fascist Italy a lot? Like 100-200k dead people just killed?
Italy didn't really have a lot of minorities and their Jews were actually mostly integrated with society.

>Even in Nazi Germany killing them doesn't make sense because they were used and needed for slave labour.
Slaves stopped being economically viable after the industrial revolution.

>Ceating an entire "industry" instead of just giving them a single bullet or just letting them starve is cheaper?
The industrialization was to dispose of the bodies, not to kill them. Incinerators are far more efficient than digging trench after trench after trench to fill with bodies.

>Ok the letting thousands wait for the "oven", feeding them, giving them a dentist and a doctor is cheaper than letting them starve?
The bodies needed to be kept fresh. It's more sanitary that way, and plus they could squeeze out extra efficiency by putting them to work and experimenting on them while they waited for the furnace to free up.

>Actually it failed because half the planet made war with them and destroyed it by force, contrary to communism/socialism which always fails on it's own after some time.
The cold war never happened.

>You mean after or before invading Poland? No matter which you pick, both would have led to war for Germany.
Unlikely. There would have been trade disputes, but no one really wanted all-out war. They'd just had one.

wtf I hate pol now

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Read some bits in the testament. He doesn't seem to hate russians and slavs like the usual narrative suggests. Calls them patient like an elephant and calm. Interesting.

Europe would be white
There would be no jews that take advantage of the people for low wages
Low taxes
We would live on the moon by 2025

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A nonKike version of IronSky.jpg

It should be just the way it is, except we shouldn't have imported the German intellectuals. Thanks for all this shit show.

You would have lost to the USSR without operation paperclip

The only thing Hitler did wrong was failing to rid the world of the Jewish problem.

Germany in Europe and the United States in the Pacific. This would probably create a cold war but I think we could have managed a detente with Germany and I think the Third Reich could last today. Probably a Fascist organization, resembling the European Union would be established. All of Russia and Eastern Europe would be populated by ethinc Germans.

>but no one really wanted all-out war.
Topkek, tell that to poland, the communist revolution, Churchill and Roosvelt.

>It's called National Socialism for a reason
I thought we talked about fascism? Even though, your argument of "they needed to plunder others" is not based in the history that actually happened.
>inb4 Have your read mein Kampf and Lebensraum?

>Slaves stopped being economically viable after the industrial revolution.
So they create a big economical drain during war time? Why not just send them to the front and die there just like the commies did with theirs? Imagine 5-6 gorillion additional soldiers. hnnng

>The cold war never happened.
USSR was defeated by military intervention right?

Doesn't mean he wasn't a warhero.

Asia would be a shithole though, worse than it is now. those japs really fucked shit up
Europe may or may not be better

We should have collaborated with the Nazis. They were our friends -- not our enemy.