Why even bother?

>lifting for over 3 years
>stronger than almost anyone in gym and 6 feet
>still ugly
>24 years old
>zero social life all through university
>literally zero

To get a gf / casual sex you need a social circle, god tier facial aesthetics, normie interests. EVERY SINGLE Chad tinder experiment shows that women are willing to have instant sex with them while anyone outside the top 20 % of men isnt considered.

Why even pretend that this "aspirational ideal" is attainable? Everything outside the house is wall to wall normie posturing. And I mean EVERYTHING. Pop music filled with Stacey / Chad boasting is used as muzak everywhere. Everything is designed to remind you of your inability to ever be desired by Staceys

have you tried posting your picture on reddit.com/r/amiugly ?

people there actually are pretty honest

Its not just looks. Look at how many rock-stars, politicians and billionaires have melting faces but qt mistresses.

How do you expect to have a girl if you don't interact with people?

Btw in Tinder experiments, even god tier guys only got matches 30% of the time.

Don't listen to degenerate music if it depresses you.

I'm a poor manlet and have been laid 4 times this year with basically no social life, quit making excuses.

To get a gf / casual sex you need:

>a social circle

Correct. Because your ideal woman isn't going to parachute into your back garden on a Friday night.

>god tier facial aesthetics

Nope.

>normie interests

Not really. But you do need social interests that bring you into contact with people. The idea that the only options are nightclubs filled with dicks or staying at home is nonsense. But you do need to go out and socalise.

>>still ugly
How do you fucking dress? I mean do you seriously dress like a British hobbo, or do you dress like fucking Prince William?

How much fucking cash do you make? Like seriously, how much fucking cash do you make a month? You know, do you make as much cash as Pipa's finance?

P.S. and now guess what, this has nothing to do with politics, so fuck off.

You should be staying fit because you want to, not because you're trying to impress people.

Get a social hobby. Anything where you will interact in a specific thing.
>Endless heady endeavours with women involved.
>Maybe a random dating seminar. Just for chitchat purposes. Not all people can be judged by their covers as being normies.
>You only need to find one. ONE.
>Rejection doesnt mean shit. Repeat the algo until something hits.

Money
Social
Body

At least you got one covered, now make bank and get a hobby

> still ugly

thats your problem

Facial astethics alone doesn't help you at all. Almost everyone I meet tell me I'm very good, should do modelling and think that I get all the grills. But in reality I'm one of the two virgins in my entire social circle and all my much uglier friends get laid all the time.
What's most important (even though it sounds cliche) is attitude and personality, although I can agree that a social circle is needed.

t. Handsome kissless virgin from scania

You're a coward.

It really isnt hard to not be an anti-social retard.

I know it feels degrading to act dumb and pretend to actually be "chilling". You get used to it.

Just be fake, like the rest of the world.

Fake it, till you make it.

lol dude I'm no chad and I get laid. Not often, but I get laid.

You all act like if you follow some step by step guide you'll just walk into wet pussy.

Just keep working out and doing whatever you want. Getting laid isn't the important to me so my opinion should probably be discarded.

Back in high school before my hiki days girls hated me. I never understood why, as I got along with people fine, was tall, not fat and somewhat handsome. One day at the age of 15 I found a girlfriend. She was a brown, squat Cambodian girl. The relationship lasted 2 weeks until I called it quits since I had no attraction to her. After breaking up with her my life changed dramatically. Girls started flirting with me, overtly. My popularity with women kept growing and growing exponentially,I was at a point where they were making recommendations to their friends. By senior year I had fuck buddies as far as 2 counties over. All of this despite not working out or changing my personality or style.

This led me to believe it is mostly psychological. While I'm sure group pressure is a factor I found no trouble with women completely removed from my social circle. So they might be able to see past the facade and sniff out any insecurity. I'm just grasping at straws here though

Sounds like you need some Jesus.

>Come to Brazil
>Dont speak Brazilian
>Go to night Club
>Fuck womans and traps.

How does one go about "getting a hobby" or expanding their social circle?

Im decently attractive, I have an ok amount of cash, been making solid gains with my body.

Only problem is im 25 and down to about 3 friends now, all of whom are separate from each other, who I only ever see individually or maybe with a friend they bring along.

I mean I have interests in sport, videogames, politics and history but dont know how to turn that into a way to meet people

>it really isn't hard to not be antisocial

Literally the worst advice in the thread

Do you not have friends at work?

Bassicaly this. If you love and appreciate yourself for who you are, other people will like you too.

You just have to realise that women want the same stuff as you. Good friends, good sex, etc.

how about then you get the fuck off tinder and go out to meet girls

Technically it is politics if we are helping this man breed more white babies.
OP are you white? That can help some.

lol, well it's not. You just dont be weird.

You dont need a social circle.

I talk to random girls all the time.

I do lift and have decent facial aesthetics though plus I got a smile that lights up the room so when I get nervous I just light that bad boy up and they always comment on it so it saves my ass.

>just don't be weird brah
>it works for me
>just fake being social brah

>implying social autism is something you can turn on and off

I work night shift by myself til midnight at a local business. The only time I ever see my coworkers is when I arrive and they leave. Been there 4 years.
In my final year of university too. I made friends in my first 2, then took a year off due to some issues during which I lost contact with them.

My entire day every day is pretty much spent alone unless im in class in which case im just taking notes or im serving customers.

just go out and meet people you helpless idiot

of course you'll be bad at it at first if you're some feral child whose only social interaction is Sup Forums, and whose only experience with women is masturbating to pornography.

You have nobody to blame but yourself.

>To get a gf / casual sex
I don't want either. Shit thread. Stop putting pussy on a pedestal. Women have nothing to offer men.

Besides the 2000 Brazilian girls you see on instagram that are hot most of them are but ass ugly. I guess that is why you guys like traps so much because your women are garbage.

I have a similar problem. I've basically gone to the gym every day for the last 3 years and even before that I never really had a problem with attracting women per-say as my main problem was just keeping the relationship alive. I'm not really that anti-social as I had a pretty mid-tier level of friends and like I although I wasn't popular, I was able to have several girlfriends in highschool.
The relationships would only last about a month and the common complaint was that I remained to shy. I was friends with lots of not so good looking girls so the problem wasn't that I was "afraid" of women so my thought process was that since I'm clearly not confident talking/being in a relationship with girls above 7 then my best bet will be to just get in shape, feel good about myself and that then I'd be able to really act normally around them.

Im 21 now, in university, I'm the fittest I've ever been and last month my girlfriend of just over a month broke up with me because of "I really like you but I just feel that you're too shy around me, and I don't feel like you're open with me" To her defence she had brought up the issue before.

I'm currently in a group for men that teaches how to have confience in relationships but literally 19/20 men here are overweight and would probably do perfectly fine in a relationship if they just hit the gym. I'm thinking of just giving up and becoming a priest tbqhfam.

The problem with antisocial types on here is that they assume that being sociable is some kind of skill you need to possess innately and that you can't acquire it over time and with practice or - worse - that they've played so much fucking vidya, they think real life is like Fallout and you can get ficki ficki just by choosing the correct conversation choices.

You learn to swim or ride a bike by getting into the water or by getting on a bike: you fall off, you paddle around nearly drowning but after a while, you learn from your mistakes, you gain confidence and you get better at it. It's the same with being able to hold a conversation or not being a massively awkward aspie. Are you going to make a fool of yourself at times? Yes but it's only a mistake if you don't learn from it.

whats an example of a social hobby m8?

>manlet
what is the cutoff at manlet?
Rocking at 5'9" here.

This is true. Do not ever worry about getting a woman. Make friends and women will come to you.

>Women have nothing to offer men
Except pussy.

Damn, I need to get laid.

>stronger than almost anyone in gym
Be honest op, are you aesthetic? What's your body fat? You won't get the facial gains you need until you cut.

>just go out and meet people

I'm not the OP btw, but holy shit this shitty normie advice
Where would a NEET with zero friends or aqqantinces meet people? And how would a NEET even have the confidence to even "meet people"

Fucking normies are ruining this board

what the fuck faggot you don't need god tier facial aesthetics to get a gf/casual sex

you're at uni so you should be fucking surrounded by people, you're obviously not putting yourself out there because you're stuck in some shitty woe-is-me victim mindset

also why the fuck is this on Sup Forums

Just go gay brehs

>To get a gf / casual sex you need a social circle, god tier facial aesthetics, normie interests.

This is what neckbeards actually believe.

No, you fucking loser! The only thing you need is self-confidence!

No social circle? You'll get one once you've developed some fucking self-confidence!

Your only friends are nerds like you? No one will care if you plausibly explain why.

Ugly? No fucking problem if you don't look on the ground submissively whenever someone talks to you.

No normie interests? People will actually find you interesting if you are confident in your interests and - again - don't try to justify your nerddom.

Holy fucking shit, it's all about confidence! And that's the thing you don't have. I'm a 'neckbeard' myself. Skinny like a skeleton, rather ugly face. I like video games, disdain sports or clubbing and whatever. But I don't speak with a soft voice and stutter everytime a woman is around. And guess what, people find me interesting and actually call me to hang out with them BECAUSE I'm not like every other Chad around them. I got a beautiful GF who likes me BECAUSE I'm different.

Grow some fucking balls, you fucking loser!

STOP BEING A FUCKING NEET

Sort your shit out. It's like Rule #1.

Ultramanlet at 5'4 here OP.
My count is in the 20's and I'm 23, (yes blah blah blah degeneracy.)
Currently got a steady gf too.
I'm not particularly sociable but can be if I exert enough energy into it, practice mang

p.s. don't mention here

Literally walked up to a girl just last night and said "Hey my asshole is dry, can you help me out?" and spent the next hour with her and her friend.

Confidence is the biggest thing in face to face interaction. Even if you're not confident, fake it, or force yourself to be. More important than looks or money, at least for a short term thing.

Don't worry, I'm sure there's a Somali man out there for you too

Feels good being aesthetic. Get surgery or fuck 5/10s OP.

>I'm a poor manlet and have been laid 4 times this year with basically no social life, quit making excuses.

yeah, congrats

That dude needs to leangains it. Also can confirm your strength does not matter. Girls may like muscles but they do not care if you can deadlift 600 lbs. You facial structure matters and girls like the gaunt look the best. So being low body fat is more important.
>pic related is a 10/10

Going to church, working out in a fitness group, joining a sport team, etc

i disagree when i started lifting and got to 8% bodyfat whenever i went to the club or dating sites i got tons of pussy instantly. They didn't care what job i had or what my hobbies were. Also when i was a fat ass i would get no attention from females.

>be a blue pilled wagie instead so you can convert your free time to money for Mr shekelberg instead

Well you can keep trying bro, but at the end of the day is not worth it. Women in general atm are scum and they only serve to cum and dump

Honestly the real secret to it is look like your having fun. I know you Sup Forumslaks go out and stand there watching people thinking how degenerate they are struggling to pop a smile. Also girls don't like muscles, I work in construction doing groundworks so I'm all day laying kerbs, tarmacing, digging holes and it makes me stronger then most "lifters" plus I get a tan. Just go out drink till when you;re merry then drink shandy to keep yourself steady and happy, no one knows its not beer. get up go dance, don't make eye contact feel the music and just move to it. before you know it girls will litterally come over talk to you, laugh and dance with you or straight out come and grind up you. Just genuinly enjoy yourself.

>sports

I mean .. being able to lift 600 will make it easier to get lean.. higher BMR, etc. So it's smart. But cutting is not a step you can leave out

>Going to church

sports are for dumb low IQ faggots

savage, heres some emu bux, dont tell the others

Pretty sure the cutoff is around 5'7" you filthy normie

...

for the most part I agree, but try table tennis or some shit without all the bros on eachothers' dicks

Everyone below 6'2 is basically a woman

>tfw when you get paid to do the science shit you'd be studying and doing as a hobby anyway
>tfw you come on here and read NEETs talking about how they spend their time 'studying science' and yet they can't leverage it into a position that actually pays them to do it

But yeah, obviously I'd rather be on the dole and sitting at home while my peers are out living their lives

>Where would a NEET with zero friends or aqqantinces meet people?
You can join a sports team. You can volunteer at all sorts of places. Church.
It depends on what you like to do. If you like music go to see local bands play and hang out after their set and discuss with them, other people will be there as well and you can invite them for a drink or whatever.
If you like powerlifting join a powerlifting gym and talk to people about that.
Everyone is different and their interests are going to be different. Find something you like and then go to events that revolve around that interest.

For fuck sake just go to Thailand and bang hookers until you realize that sticking your cock in hundreds of fleshy holes is never going to make you happy.

Anything below 5'11 is manlet tier.

t. 6'2 man

well this too i guess

>sports
>volunteering
>church

cuck much?

slanty here gets it.

At 6'2 you're a man, technically, but know your place.

t. 6'6 master race

>6'6

lanky skellington detected

Patently false, I'm ugly as sin inside and out and yet here I am in a long term committed relationship. Just gotta find the right woman man.

Actually its the 6'2 - 6'4 guys who are lanklets

Im just a big guy.

Dude. No you don't.

I'm not very good looking and am a 5'9'' manlet and only weigh like 130lb's. I've fucked probably close to 100 women ranging from 5's to 9.5's. I fucked a former miss Kentucky.

Your behavior is the biggest thing. Not that looks don't matter, they absolutely do, but I'd rather be a 6/10 chubby dude with charisma than chiseled model thats autistic.

>just gotta settle for used goods and be a good cucky beta boy provider, like me man.

You may be 6'6, but you're still lower than my food.

t. giraffe

>church
Discarded
>volunteering
Slavery + cuckoldry
>sports
I'm not 12

this user is right, brah

Let's be honest being below 5'11" or 6'2" may make you a women or a manlet but someone who is 5'11" or 6'1" has life on easy mode compared to someone at 5'5" or even 5'7"
Fucking normals don't seem to understand this.

>Actually its the 6'2 - 6'4 guys who are lanklets

nigger what? i'm built like a tank at 6'2.

i knew a few 6'3 lanklets though and one guy who was close to 7 feet but he was fucking h00ge all round, not skinny at all.

this

i thank my lucky stars every day i wasn't born a manlet. my life would've been true suffering then.

It's easy to get laid, but maintaining a relationship, or a social circle is difficult, if not impossible for some people.

Sorry, but just telling someone to go out, and meet people isn't going to cut it. You need to get a lifestyle that forces you to interact, and change, such as getting a job where you deal with the public. I suggest airline gate agent where you have to deal with complex social situations.

>"tend to"
>BUT I KNOW AN EXCEPTION

Jesus Christ...

first sensible advise posted ITT

You probably would you know if given the choice

Taking the NEET redpill is the by far the most comfiest

Whatever I go to Church. I am ok with who I am.

Try playing in coed adult league sports like soccer. Go out and volunteer or go to public events. Start expanding yourself from your inner circle of video games, the gym and your house.

>casual sex you need a social circle
Never slept with any women in my social circle actually
>god tier facial aesthetics
Good and Ok tier is enough if you lift
>normie interests
Not really true, my only intrest outside of lifting is Combat sports and MMA, thats a pretty fringe intrest here, and most girls get excited to meet somone thats not into soccer, which is the uber Normie thing to do here, they are usualy rether bored with Normie soccer guys

>rock-stars, politicians and billionaires
So either be above average in looks or become extremely powerful. Ezpz.

calm down you insecure faggot, it's just a story.

OP. Such is the faith of those not blessed with adequate symmetry.

You need to be strong!

If you measure success and happiness through how many friends you have and how lucky you are with girls you're already a lost cause regardless of how much you lift. Fix your priorities and your mind.

This picture turned me gay

cuck

good advice also

>projecting insecurity

Literally everytime

>he fell for the lifting meme

Thanks for your shekels spent in becoming le alpha male, goy!

T. Gym owner

Nope. Sorry that girls don't want to talk about anime with you, user.

Thank you for Correcting the Record

>le sex thread
>$0.10 have been added to your account

>falling for the religious Jew

Post as many le funny hat tip memes as you want you're still a cuck

Pls go back to /r9k/, Britain.

find a girl who isn't normie

find a girl who isn't normie but neither tumblr-tier

alternative scenes (going to music gigs, jams, etc) and places around concerts and such have got me laid and qt gf