Can we talk about why this was a 10/10 Disney film?

Can we talk about why this was a 10/10 Disney film?

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It was in my language, but the original English dub is honestly pretty bad. Cuzco sounds like he's constantly phoning it in. The amount of memes coming from this movie would have been doubled if not for that.

Literally.

>the original English dub is honestly pretty bad

This is like the only time David Spade has ever been bearable.

Plus fucking Patrick Warburton, Eartha Kitt, and John Goodman are all fantastic in this movie.

This and Lilo and Stitch are my two favorite Disney movies.

Looney Tunes short as a full-length Disney movie

Kronk.

Alright, we've tolerated you fucking third-worlders for long enough. I didn't say anything in all those Simpsons threads, but I've had it.
Your dubs are shit. You only think they're better because they're in your native language. Fuck off.

I'll be honest, it isn't that good. It's fun to watch, But weirdly paced. Its made out to be better than it is by memesters.

>taking the bait

Anons, I thought you were better than this.

Because it was really more of a Chuck Jones film.

because it had 10/10 music, 10/10 cast and 10/10 animation Honestly the best part of my life up to this point.

>but the original English dub is honestly pretty bad

so does the tv series take place before the movie or after?

That show was fucking awful who cares.

Don't pretend second worlders are any better.

CONFOUND THOSE KUZCO BOYS

This. It's a great film but a lot of that comes from how much it sets out to not be a traditional Disney film.

same. probably because they came out during the sweet spot of my childhood

>original English dub

Even the Sequel is a ten out of ten.

>original English dub

That is not what a dub is.

It's weird how there are people who lament the loss of Kingdom of the Sun, when it seemed like much more of a bog-standard Disney movie.
This song is the tits, though.
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The best alternate form of any character

Part of the reason the original was so good was because it wasn't your typical Disney film. The sequel shit ALL over that.

The more I hear about Kingdom of the Sun, the more glad I am we ended up with New Groove. It sounded dumb as shit.

>Be stupid 12 year old when this movie came out
>Watching it for the first time
>Very first gag at the start of the movie is the diner exploding in cheese
>Had to pause the movie for a solid ten minutes because I was laughing so hard

pretty fun finding out that the director of Cats Don't Dance did this

The plot from what I've heard of it sounds like a clusterfuck with too many things going on at once. I would still love to see a workprint of it just out of curiosity but they definitely made the right choice in making New Groove instead.

This song is also pretty good.
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Exactly. The story was a clusterfuck, it had too many cooks in the kitchen, and everything else looked boring. The songs are about the only good part about it.

We got the right movie in the end.

>the original English dub is honestly pretty bad

I wouldn't say it was a 10/10, but I admit I lost it at Kuzco's "cameo".

>It's weird how there are people who lament the loss of Kingdom of the Sun, when it seemed like much more of a bog-standard Disney movie

This. I've said it before and I'll say it again:
big executives are big executives for a reason. Kingdom of the Sun was an overambitious project that was too costly and possessed the worst factors of Disney movies at the time, including an overabundance of side characters, comic relief mascot, bad quirky songs, and an unnecessary romance subplot.

Higher-ups saved this movie from being another Pocahontas or Black Cauldron.

Yeah, that was a cute cat and I love how it stick to the ending, too

>Prince and the Pauper story with Kuzco and Pacha
>Kuzco falling in love with a girl in the village
>Yzma attempting to restore her youth by blocking out the sun
>Kuzco getting turned into a llama
I have no idea how the hell they thought that was going to work. To top it all off, Kronk wouldn't have been in this movie.

I don't know how I feel about kingdom of the sun, I absolutely love musicals and I'm sad we will never see Kingdom of the Sun. But that said New Groove was one of my favorite disney flicks.

Not to mention, they were apparently going to play all that completely seriously. Even the Llama bit.

How fucking dumb would that have been? At least New Groove knew it was a ridiculous concept and worked off that.

>original English dub

what I liked most about the best of the 90s disney films was their metatextuality; hercules for its taking the most classic form of drama, the greek epic, and throwing references to jordans and gatorade, let alone the entire opening sequence of the discovery-channel, old british voiceover actor being displaced by "muses" from some baptist church in the american south; and groove for the sunset boulevard, kick ass trope of narration also from thr first scene and also throughout thr narrative. if we look at the poster for lilo and stitch, although it was a conventional narrative structure more than the others, we can see disney commenting on itself, culture, and on the film; where the wholesome animated family drama replaces bambi with an alien and swelling string music with elvis' once-subversive self. /autism

also, kuzco and the fat one should have fucked at the end.

>no Kronk
The world would've been lesser if that came to pass.
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>I'm sad we will never see Kingdom of the Sun
There's still the possibility it could get leaked online someday. Other 90's era Disney movie workprints have found their way online if you know where to look.

>Some random animator/editor saved a copy for himself
>Leaves Disney years later
>Doesn't want to see the work of hundreds be lost to time, uploads it anonymously with nothing to lose
It could happen.

Jasmine wants the alien dick.

DAHAHAHAHAHA!

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I did not notice that, well observed.

reaction pic goldmine

My god this is exploitable....

Amazing

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jfc I said I have autism
>what is that supposed to mean

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The Disney Corporation (please stop calling them "Disney"--they are not Walt Disney in the same sense that Washington [D.C.] is not George Washington) have amassed a vast fortune by raping and pillaging western and eastern art. They've made it their trademark to water-down classics (as Shakespeare's "Hamlet" and Tezuka's "Jungle Taitei") with cutesy characters and song-and-dance numbers as to make them more palatable for the vulgar herd. Of all their motion pictures, only "Fantasia," inventor of stereophonic sound, is not an atrocity.

Why was this movie so good at taking overused jokes and spinning them in a completely original way? The moral dilemma bits for Kronk were pure gold on so many levels.

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thanks

I would argue a little for Snow White, Three Caballeros and a few others during his time.

Also Fantasia 2000 and a some others kinda tried. Kinda.

They're pressing F to show respects.
He's dead, mate.

cool, not my board. who's dead?

Gene died recently, just paying my respects.

Gene Wilder.

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Who would draw a porn of yzma in her cat form?

I would

And thus the only (or at least well known) instance of executive meddling helping a movie was born

>original English dub

You could ask /trash/ to draw one.

he have an army of people specialized on that at saturdays.

You can't explain it. Just enjoy it.

I made the mistake of remembering that show from my childhood and looking it up again as an adult. Apparently my childhood self repressed the fact David Spade wasn't in it and I triggered myself all over again watching that garbage.

I wish they could have worked yzma's song into it. Fuck that was the best villain song.

>That show was fucking awful
People with good taste that's who.

Can you think of a way to do it without ruining the perfect pacing of the film?
Keep in mind that you must also establish this new goal for Yzma that doesn't exist in the final version of the film.

They were going to have Yzma sing a reprise of Perfect World but they cut it for some reason.

They made a good comedy duo

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I like Black Cauldron though

>big executives are big executives for a reason.

nepotism?

>The more I hear about Kingdom of the Sun, the more glad I am we ended up with New Groove. It sounded dumb as shit.
>The plot from what I've heard of it sounds like a clusterfuck with too many things going on at once. I would still love to see a workprint of it just out of curiosity but they definitely made the right choice in making New Groove instead.

The reason Kingdom of the Sun sounds like shit is, think about it:

It literally would have been Brother Llama.

>What's His Name?

Underrated

I really love at the end when Kronk's having his conversation with the angel and devil and everyone else looks on in total confusion

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They could have kept kuzco's love interest somehow.

What's your language?

They did.
He's his own love interest.

is their more art of her? She's a cutie

El peruANO

First I've heard of Kingdom of the sun. Is that what turned into new grove or a project with just very similar themes?

Google "exploitable" and find the one that's most relevant to Sup Forums

Yes. yes there is

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and that's all I have

it was an unfinished disney film that was heavily, *heavily* reworked into the emperor's new groove after it was initially scrapped for not really working storywise. it was supposed to be more dramatic and serious than groove, and the llama couldn't talk and was a minor character while pacha was the main character.

>a lowly servant girl that directly conflicts with kuzco's self love and prestige
Yes, yes.

I like her uninterested gaze.

They could have used her in the tv show instead of that other chick.

I can't think of any way they could of worked her into the final movie besides a cameo. There wasn't any need for a romance plot in it.

>They could have used her in the tv show instead of that other chick.

What was Disney thinking?

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I will live to see legends die.

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