Cascadia

Do you support Cascadian Independence?

If I do, will I get a top qt for myself to do what I please?

stop using my name and creating stupid fucking threads you retard

My home and native land :)

no

I refuse

yes

I wish I lived in a little seaside village on Vancouver Island
I suffer in Ontario

Only if chinks are deported so that it can become a white and Amerindian state.

victoria is nice

Yes. I support all secessionist movements in North America. Except Quebec. They need to be extinguished.

>giving a fuck about chuggs

what is wrong with you?

I'm lukewarm on it. I feel like N. America would be better off if the US and Canada balkanized and formed an EU style arrangement but that sounds impossible to do in real life without fucking shit up.

I am trying to get my ass out to Cascadia as soon as I graduate. I'm desperate to escape the shithole known as the midwest.

No. I live in Portland and we have enough bums and dead weight as it is.

Needs more hillbillies. Throw in the Peace River country at least, and more rural California.

what state are you from and what state do you want to go to?

> I feel like N. America would be better off if the US and Canada balkanized and formed an EU style arrangement
sounds comfy desu. Nice mix of sovereignty, good relations, close cultures, and hopefully prosperity.

that's how the states were supposed to be desu

I forget what that means. I've often visited Vancouver island, Vancouver, and the Rockies, but never heard the term.

From Illinois, hoping to get to Washington or Oregon. I have a longer list of states I'd like to move to (California, Colorado, possibly Utah) but those two top the list.

The University of Washington has a strong PhD program in what I want to do plus it's a nice balance of outdoorsy stuff and a good climate so that's my best case scenario.

Yeah, I feel like there are a lot of regions where people might have more in common with their close neighbors across the border than they do with many of their countrymen. Chicagoans and Wisconsinites probably have more in common with Ontario residents than, say, deep southerners.

You can't leave until we do.

They could divide the country into sectors like Panem (hunger games) :^)
Minus the centralization of the Capitol

Someone pull up the panem map

will weed stay legal?

Lmao, the idea is supported by a bunch of stoners and hippies so that's not even a question.

Missourian here, it's not as great as it sounds. Are you from southern or northern Illinois. If you're the latter, the transition might be easier on you than it was me. Personally, I cannot stand the weather and would love to move to the Florida or somewhere else in the south-east.

If you manage to end up in Portland, know that the locals do not like outsiders. So be prepared to lie if you can get away with it. We don't have it as bad as the Californians do though

Grew up in the Chicago burbs, currently living on the North Side of Chicago.

What's drawing me out there is the mountains mostly, among other things. My main hobbies are things like climbing, backcountry skiing, mountaineering, backpacking, road cycling, etc.

Illinois is pretty devoid of all that stuff.

>We don't have it as bad as the Californians do though
Real talk, when I was in Colorado I expected some locals to hate me for being an outsider but they turned out to be fine with me since I'm not a Californian or Texan.

>good climate

Maximum zozzle.

Seasonal depression, 6 to 8 months of grey, dreary, misty rain

Summer and early Fall are absolutely gorgeous, but mid/late Fall up until late Spring absolutely sucks fucking ass. I hear so many people say "oh but i like the rain" and I just immediately cringe. Enjoying a thunderstorm is a far cry from months of non-stop overcast and drizzle bullshit. You'll go months without seeing the sun once, you're always fucking wet, the cost of living is horrendous, the people are just smug assholes or condescending jackasses. Go to Colorado instead, it's where I'm planning on heading after I leave Arizona in a couple years. It's essentially the same thing as Oregon but just more sunshine/snow and less clouds/rain.

>t. someone who was born and raised in Oregon. 21 years in Oregon, 7 years now in Arizona.

only if its an ethnostate

Yeah, I've long known that the rain is basically just drizzling for months on end. But as a Chicagoan, we get similar shit. From November through March there isn't much sun and on top of that it's cold as balls and windy. From what I've read the PNW seems to hover in the mid 30s in winter.

>the people are just smug assholes or condescending jackasses
Dunno about Oregon, but I've heard how bad the Seattle Freeze is.

>Go to Colorado instead
I spent 2.5 years there desu. It didn't work out because I sort of flunked out of college for a number of circumstances (being an 18 year old kid away for the first time, depression, being emotionally abused, social isolation, etc.). I wouldn't mind going back but the PNW would be a better change of scenery. There were some things I didn't like, though, like how fucking dry it got.

Dunno if I'd like Arizona. I visited in 2014 and thought it was pretty cool but I don't think I'd like to live there outside of Flagstaff.

>calif*Rnians
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>"oh but i like the rain"
>and I just immediately cringe.
And you called yourself Oregonian

>But as a Chicagoan, we get similar shit
Try it out. I can't stand this shit honestly.

>I've heard how bad the Seattle Freeze is.
It should be renamed the PNW Freeze. People aren't just standoff-ish to "outsiders", I was born and raised in Oregon and it's overt as fuck to basically anyone outside of that person's immediate circle.

>Flagstaff.
I graduated from NAU in Spring 2013 so I love Flag. I don't care much for the desert down here in Phx, but I have a huge network here so I'll tolerate the desert for like 5 years before I dip to Colorado Springs or Ft. Colins.

It's awful.

Little baby can't handle a wee bit of cold and rain?

>I can't stand this shit honestly
Tradeoffs, tradeoffs. I've known PNW transplants here in Chicago who never looked back, and I've known people from here who went to the PNW and avoid going to the midwest whenever possible.

Yeah Flag seemed pretty cool. I only spent a day or two there going to/from my Rim-to-Rim hike in 2014.

I liked the desert, too, but I wouldn't want to live in it.

I actually lived in Fort Collins when I was in Colorado, I studied at CSU for a while. I loved Ft. Collins, and loved CO, but hated CSU. Ft. Collins is nice since you get a lot of the fun of a city without the hustle and bustle or massive crowds. RMNP is only an hour or so away, plus a day trip to most ski areas is pretty doable. The big sprawly subdivisions are pretty bad, though.

I've never really spent much time in CO Springs, but it's gorgeous. It's also supposed to be full of conservative evangelicals but the only person from there I ever became close to was this psycho moonbat who tried to ruin my life.

>and more rural California
Turn it around. They need to forget about getting any part of California entirely. They like to pretend the north is "rightful Cascadian clay" but that is just a shallow extension of their arrogance that they rightfully own every parcel of land that touches the Pacific and is known by pop culture to have trees in it. In reality they don't give a ripe shit about the people living there. The only people in California who like the idea of Cascadia are the elitists in San Francisco who finally found a way to feel superior to both Americans and Californians at the same time.

Case in point, there was a school shooting in November in the rural north (Rancho Tehama). This came with the normal aftermath of this kind of thing Naturally, newspapers in Cascadia ran the story in passing and forgot about it in a hot minute like most stories of shit going down in other places. Yet all the way down here in SoCal, there were follow ups for weeks and circulations of donation pages for the families going around for a long time as it should be when shit goes down for people you care about. The important thing is that the assholes in Oregon and Washington who constantly claim that that area is rightfully theirs and claim that only they "truly understand them unlike you Commiefornians" barely even registered fucking 5 people dead. While us evil degenerate Californians as far down as the southern border were worried about them for weeks like a people should. For gods sake I don't even remember any grandstanding about guns like one would expect. You don't have to care about every bit of violence in the world but you do if you want them to be part of your "country". Cascadians don't care about them, they just want the clay.

Our state may be dysfunctional as fuck and the legislature may be broken but at the end of the day we still actually care about each other. For Cascadians to say that they belong to them, is insulting.

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Yes absolutely.

>Native

>From Illinois, hoping to get to Washington or Oregon. I have a longer list of states I'd like to move to (California, Colorado, possibly Utah) but those two top the list.

You are always welcome to come to California. There is a lot to choose from so exactly where depends on what you are looking for in a community. If you like the idea of pacific forests then you might like the Humboldt county area, the nature is top notch, beaches are actually pretty nice if a bit cold, the people are friendlier than in Oregon or Washington (though a bit apprehensive since their main contact with outsiders is in the form of rowdy college students in HSU), I heard that the music scene is pretty good if you like that sort of thing and there's always good blackberry picking in August. Still rainy a lot of the time though and a bit geographically isolated.

>Yeah, I feel like there are a lot of regions where people might have more in common with their close neighbors across the border than they do with many of their countrymen.
I do kind of get this. Before border security got super strict my parents and their generation would just take day trips to Tijuana as if it were nothing. People still try today but it is much more of a hassle, requiring actual passport checks. Back then TJ and San Diego were practically one metro.

How about Alaskan independence?

Cali does look nice. UC Santa Cruz is on my list of grad schools, actually. Stanford and Caltech also have programs for my field, but those will be reach schools.

One of the main things I want nearby is skiing (especially backcountry), mountaineering, and trail running. Humboldt and Santa Cruz seem a bit far from that, but still MUCH better than anything here with Mammoth and Tahoe several hours away.

>Tijuana
I read it used to be a lot better before the cartels were a huge problem. My mom and her family did a roadtrip to Mexico back in the 60s/70s. Definitely not as doable today but apparently some people still do it.

>The people are friendlier than Oregon

This I will fully agree with. The locals here are really passive and unfriendly. If you're not from here, good luck making friends. Californians are really fun to be around. Very extroverted and chill. Some can be a tad arrogant about their state when comparing it to the rest of America