If China is so great then why don't you go back there?

>If China is so great then why don't you go back there?

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So why don't you?

well?

we are waiting?

Why don't you eh?

Maybe he thinks it isn't so great.

Because I'm a colonizer and I own your property.

>Because I'm a colonizer

I read that as "Because I'm a colostumizer"

lol backwards is lol

aussies sure are assholes

>If you're so proud of your European roots, why don't you return to Europe and speak the tongue of your ancestral home?

who here is the best chess player?

Go back then, Frankie Chang.

No, I'm a colonialist here
I feel you don't like it then why let me in?

albania backwards is albania

aha made you check

You were supposed to create jobs Zhang. YOU HAD ONE JOB

Because I was born in America?

How does that prevent you from going to europe?

We have a mission to spread the greatness of china to every corner of the world. It's a lot of hard work but in the end it'll be worth it.

Turning the world into an autocratic shithole is somehow worth it?

>Turning the world into an autocratic shithole
Explain?

Maybe I was born in America too?

I think hes talking about the fact that Asian governments are typically really shitty and don't afford their civilians much in the way of freedom or rights

Isn't it obvious? China is an autocratic shithole. Spreading the greatness of chine to every corner of the world means that China gets more power in the world, becomes a hegemon and turns the world into an autocratic shithole.

Even if china is a shithole your prediction doesn't follow any logic.

As opposed to how competent and efficient Western governments are?

People in china have a lot of personal freedom, which seems to be all that the vast majority of the Chinese population cares about.

If China is so great then why don't you go back there?

Prefer Chinese to Pakis desu, wish we could swap colonisers x

>People in china have a lot of personal freedom
what the fuck? no they don't

Why is Chink dispora so prevalent on the chans?

coincidentally, your parents were dying of hunger when they left their homeland.
B-but that has nothing to do with it!

*Indian Diaspora

manchildren who blame the rest of society for the problems and don't go out much because their women are busy doing a decent job of assimilating

Come home yellow man :)

1. China is a shithole.
2. If China takes over the world, the world becomes a shithole.
Where exactly am I wrong?

Based chink poster

They do though. Why do you think they don't? Or do you not understand the term 'personal freedom'?

Wrong.

Where exactly are you right? I'm asking for proofs. You're making two claims without anything to back them up.

ah yes, the freedom of buying a VPN or buying the pass in order to use this website
the freedom of continuing to drive if you run over someone because the consequences of stopping to help are too severe
the freedom of not being able to legally watch any type of porn
the freedom of having your favorite korean TV channels banned
the freedom of state-controlled press
yes, freedom

Do you need a proof that autocratic regimes are evil and murderous? Read some history books.

none of these matter if you're rich though

Guess I was supposed to use the term economic freedom. Sorry. However I thought I made it pretty clear I was NOT talking about political freedom.

Lel a subhuman russian bath lotion slurping pigdog suggests a human being to read a book.

>china
>autocratic
Ironic. Maybe you should read some books first.

if canada is so great why do you post on Sup Forums

ah yes, the land of the free*
(*rich people only. If you're poor though luck you're not human)
so you're saying the Chinese care more about "economic freedom" (zero proof that you do) than personal freedom?

ayo some of you guys are alright, don't go to Tienanmen Square tomorrow
t. Deng

Than political freedom, yeah. Thay being said they don't give much of a damn about not being able to use Facebook/YouTube etc. either.

What exactly about Xinpeng and friends makes them not autocratic? They hold a monopoly on political power and enforce a one party state.
They are the literal (not metaphorical) definition of autocrats.

>democracy is good for developing countries
Those stupid bitches would've ruined chinas progress desu. I'm not glad they were mowed down but I'm glad they didn't get their way.

but rest of the world do care so fuck off chink

>a man comes and tells you not to do something that isnt bad at all
>o-oh okay sir.. i didnt want to do that anyway!
An entire race of beta cuckolds. (and submissive women)

> China is a democratic country that cares deeply about freedom of speech and human rights.

I want China to have more power to influence the world. The democracy meme needs to be replaced with technocracy. No more should technologically and scientifically illiterate politicians decide what should be up to technicians and scientists to figure out. The problems society faces are not political but technological.

"Family values" don't put food on my table, mechanized farming does. "Women's rights" don't put petrol in my car, fossil fuel extraction and processing does. "Liberty" doesn't help me get from point A to point B - highways, railways and air traffic does.

Autocracy = dictatorship. You don't even know the definition of the word you're using, do you?

How many forms of government do you think there are? Just democracy and dictatorship?

Come back to Sup Forums when you're 18.

>Autocracy = dictatorship.
And democracy isn't the dictatorship of the majority? Whether you're being ruled by a small oligarchy or by a majority that consistently outvotes you by virtue of the fact that they're a majority - you are still ruled over.

you know Russia is much worse, though, right?
sounds like a grim way of life, to be so disconnected from the rest of the world. So much information and free education, especially for the poor, lost. I learned just about everything I know from those sites, they taught me even more than University. And one thing I know for sure is not everyone in China can afford college education.
And knowing you can't enjoy content billions of people do because your government is butthurt. Or, until very recently, being forced to kill your child if it's female... Sounds like a nightmare.
Memes aside, it makes me sad to think so many people are living like that

>No more should technologically and scientifically illiterate politicians decide what should be up to technicians and scientists to figure out.
You realize that china isn't immune to this problem either right? See: how the man made forests in china hurt the local ecology.

Yes they do, relative to the past.

Not starving is a freedom very few people realize may not be easy to achieve in developing countries.

>this mainland NZ banana without an identity or a clue

they certainly need an environmental scientist and a biologist in there
and also very importantly, a fucking lawyer

>Come back to Sup Forums when you're 18
I cant since time travel doesn't exist.
>Dictatorship is not autocracy

> WHAT ABOUT U

Autocracy = single autocrat rules all

China is a de-facto capitalist oligopoly.

>NZ'ers dont regard him as a real new zealander
>mainlanders dont regard him as a real chinese either

Man made forests are a must in order to help correct the mistakes during the Mao period, where mass deforestation enabled the Gobi desert to spread very far south. If not for these man-made forests it would continue to encroach on temperate climate until all of China is a desert. It is a project which has more benefits than costs, otherwise it would not be undertaken.

no, your points are all valid, my "country" is terrible too, I just want to know if you're aware about that

Xi Jinping is actually a lawyer. He just is also an engineer.

China is a single polical party who rules everything, it's autocratic af

China was never a technocratic state

>And democracy isn't the dictatorship of the majority?
Ignoring this retarded quote china is far from being ruled exclusive by a small group of elite. Debug introduced the idea of "collective leadership" and since his era the CCP has been operating under that model. The CCP membership is huge and prone to factionalism and infighting.

of*
good
if they're all so smart why is there so much smog in there

>lawyer
Obama was a senior lecturer on constitutional law. Does that mean he acknowledged that many of Bush's government spying programs are unconstitutional? No, he even expanded them. Why? Because lawyers are known for being scummy and deceptive. How on earth would China benefit from a lawyer politician.

people in general who want power and status are scummy and deceptive

well Obama was an ethically bad lawyer then
we need good ones
the real problem is this also your reddit scientism won't solve all of our problems. A technocratic state is just as likely to be terrible and incompetent as any other

nah mate, albania is already backwards enough

>Dictatorship is not autocracy
That's exactly the opposite of what I said. You're embarrassing yourself, retard.

Debateable.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-North_Shelter_Forest_Program

Autocracy is when all of the power is concentrated between a very small number of people. The CCP is more than "a small number of people".

Because economic growth creates smog.

Have you seen a picture of London 1960? Detroit 1970? Japan 1980?

Do nations just magically find money on the ground?

>reddit
Not an argument.

>Because economic growth creates smog.
With the advent of renewable energy that can change very soon. If it doesn't by the time Africa starts developing we will all be doomed.

A single party state is not an “autocracy” as was originally claimed.

au·toc·ra·cy
ôˈtäkrəsē/Submit
noun
>a system of government by one person with absolute power.
synonyms: absolutism, >totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, tyranny, monocracy, autarchy
>"the country is reeling from thirty years of autocracy"
>a country, state, or society governed by one person with absolute power.

“Autocratic as fuck” is not what was originally claimed, nor is it measurable in any sense.
I’m so fucking tired of people who cannot read a simple sentence in english.

>Debug
Fuck me. Deng*

Guess who creates the renewable energy.
Guess where the production of renewable energy producers comes from.
Guess what is needed to produce renewable energy producers.

Nothing is free. China has smog because it industrialized rapidly. You cannot simply snap your fingers and be rich without pollution. China decided that pollution was better than starving.

dude SCIENCE LMAO

>Guess who creates the renewable energy.
China?

>Guess where the production of renewable energy producers comes from.
China?

>Guess what is needed to produce renewable energy producers.
Engineers? China has plenty of them and the government is well suited to back large scale long term initiatives.

Seems like a logical thing to say

The role of the ruler is not to solve problems by themselves but to find people with the expertise and delegate them to the problems matching said expertise, and to consult the experts when drafting a policy.

At least science works on the basis of empiricism and as such arrives at the most accurate conclusions 99% of the time. All the emotion-based bullshit and sophistry that currently dominates politics is dead wrong on just about everything.

>All the emotion-based bullshit and sophistry that currently dominates politics is dead wrong on just about everything.
is this bait or do you really know jackshit about politics?
posts like these are proof a technocracy wouldn't necessarily work. Good emotional health is essential for the well being of any civilized society, no matter how much your weeb edgy self wants to to think otherwise. Elon Musk ruling the world won't fix anything, reddit. Civilizations need balance

>to be so disconnected from the rest of the world. So much information and free education
The Chinese middle class has the freedom to travel to and study in Western countries. Are you retarded?

>The Chinese middle class has the freedom to travel to and study in Western countries. Are you retarded?
those aren't middle class at all

>reddit
You keep using that word, but it's just not an argument. Try again.

in other words, fuck poor people? did you even read my post?
>The Chinese middle class
you mean upper class. I shouldn't have to fucking travel to another country to legally watch a YouTube tutorial

>gets buttblasted after acting like a parody of reddit
>ignores the rest of my post
not liking the names I call you is not an argument either

median salary if you only look at urban china (excluding all the poor as fuck farmers and country siders) is 12k aud per year
12 fucking thousand and out of that they need tax, rent, living expenses
do you think middle class has money to travel to developed countries?

Are you guys talking about different things? I think he merely admires that the Chinese government have learnt their lesson and is now removed from all ideologies and runs the country with pragmatic decisions. Meanwhile the west is now desperately trying to clean up their mess from arrogantly attempting to spread their ideals.

and to add your comment is so fucking stupid
studying here costs 40k per year to them just for tuition alone forget rent food transport
you're an absolute idiot if you think those students are "middle class" kill youself.

he's arguing that a perfect country can be only run by a theocracy, and I quote
>All the emotion-based bullshit and sophistry that currently dominates politics is dead wrong on just about everything.
clearly the kind of thing said by someone who has no clue about how the world works.

> It's another Hong Konger sucking up to his western masters

You are a disgrace to China. I can't wait for 2047 and the end of your snowflake city. Even Hongkies here are rude to me.

Fine, let's address your """argument"""
>Good emotional health is essential for the well being of any civilized society
This does not apply to government because government is not there to coddle your feefees. It's there to establish budgets, manage public works projects, enforce the law of the land and defend the national security and national interests. Where does "emotional health" factor into this? Absolutely nowhere because the decisions involved need to be informed by facts, not emotions. How would you react if a local politician signed something terrible into law because he really really feels that it's the right thing to do without examining any of the consequences? You'd be pretty pissed wouldn't you?

>Elon Musk ruling the world won't fix anything, reddit.
Musk is a physicist and economist by education. Of course his field of expertise isn't broad enough to address all of society's needs. You need everyone from medical professionals to civic engineers to each make decisions based on problems that involve their field. That doesn't mean that someone like Musk shouldn't be in government over someone who doesn't know jack shit and makes decisions based on feelings.

>Civilizations need balance
This is a platitude with no real substance.

stop trying to act smart pointing out the absolute definition of autocracy while the main purpose was to pointing out the fact China is ruled by a small group of people who unironically banned any kind of cunter power.