The Red Menace

I'm going to university next month. Undoubtedly I'll be the subject of loud criticism from students on the left. Give me every argument against communism, socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy you can. I'll need all the help I can get when it's 100:1.

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Just hide your powerlevel.
Its the only way to survive in colege if your rightwing.

You are better of not even speaking to these people. They cannot be reasoned with. They are not accustomed to having their views challenged, and their idea of arguing is yelling over you.

this.

if you cant do that then just ask them if any truely communist or socialist regime has ever functioned properly or not oppressed its people ever, also give made up personal stories about the time you met a poor venezuelan immigrant who was saving up money to bring his family and 10 year old daughter away from the iron grip of venezuelan socialism

>But communism has never been tried
>All that communism in the 20th century? That's not REAL communism.

You have to be over 18 to post here.

>College
>2016

Better kill yourself.

why would you do that ? grow a spine coward

im going to uni next september and i wont hide anything

>next month
hes already 18 tard

>Mao Zedong and Vladimir Lenin were CAPITALISTS

>Give me every argument against communism,
You're certainly going in ignorant.

I have stock, but I need an arsenal

ill give you the golden rule

1- dont argue with a leftist unless youre forced to (school debate for example)

youre welcome

Why?

You won't be able to withstand it. You'll either succumb to the left or leave.

Their arguments are better, generally, and in a university setting your Sup Forums tier shit can be taken apart quickly.

Hide your powerlevel.
Or be a fucken outcast like I was.

>I believe something and am confident that it is right
>I don't understand it well enough to argue it

So brave

waste of your time. try it 2-3 times if you dont believe me

You don't have to argue at all. Once they get a job, they'll be auto-uncucked.

For the ones who never get a job. Laugh at them when they fail at life.

The greatest motivator for all humans is personal gain. The greatest amount of output of goods, food, and services will be created when people know that by producing more, they will have more. People will work hard as hell, all day long, enriching themselves; they won't work quite so long and hard when someone else is the beneficiary of his work. Communist ALWAYS envision themselves as the leaders of the ruling elite, being served by lots of less useful people, gladly slaving away solely to enrich the do nothing government, and hope not to be murdered for saying anything bad about their bloodthirsty and lazy rulers. If someone will give me $200 to spend a day doing hard work, I will do it. If he says that he will give SOMEONE ELSE the
$200 if I work all day....I'll just stay home, and not work for someone else's benefit. Better to let someone else labor for MY benefit. This attitude will lead to EVERYONE staying home, and doing nothing. And everyone will soon be hungry and cold in the dark.

How about I'll help by giving you an early start then?

You're a classcucked underaged wannabe edgelord and all around useless idiot of the ruling class.

Well, trips of truth, looks like OP will have to stop being a fag

Does OP ever stop being a fag?

You won't graduate with anything then.

State Socialism = State Capitalism

Study a real subject you fucking mong. You only get tumblrites on meme subjects like Literature and History.

>believing in the left-right dichotomy
>believing that everyone on the 'left' is bad

Even if they're SJWs, it's better to ally with them against capitalism. You'll not only be fighting the (((real enemy))) but you also won't be an outcast.

What's a 'real subject'?

Do you mean the corporatists?

I mean the Jews.

Joseph Goebbels himself said that even communism was preferable to free market capitalism.

If you hide your powerlevel about the NatSocs and Jews, and focus on attacking capitalism, you'll be hero to your peers, and be fighting the good fight.

That concept art always make me cringe.

Be more specific man. But the best way to do it is just follow the lecture outline so you go into lecture prepared for a discussion. Come up with strong arguments against whatever, and then imagine you're them and come up with whatever they're going to respond with so you have a counter to it. And generally, read a lot about whatever subject it is you want to debate on.

Heres how a "debate" with leftists goes:
1: I dont agree with you because evidence
2: everyone in the room begins shouting racist, sexist, or homophobe accusations at you until you stop trying to talk
3: they go home, log on to tumblr, and tell thier buddies todays story of how they defeated you with thier snarky wit and infallible logic.


Just keep yer mouth shut and pick your battles.

>Give me every argument against communism, socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy you can.
>argument against communism
Oh, please. The Soviet Union. Isn't it enough?

No, american college commies inevitably declare that the soviet union, north korea, china, cambodia, etc etc dont count because thier ideology wasnt pure.

Obviously if such people had tried MY version of communism things would have worked out!

Just tell them King Lancaster said Oven the libtards

Man this is why we lose, it's okay to take the offensive, in fact we should. Most of the arguments leftists have memorized but there are not a lot of well known arguments to respond. I -highly- recommend watching ben shapiro's videos and copying his arguments when available. One example is, you can accuse them of "standing on the graves" of people who died for their support on gun control. In fact, you can shame them for this. If someone says affirmative action is a good thing, you need to get in their face and accuse them of supporting inequality and racism. Call them stupid for wanting things like AA, say over and over how they are evil to suggest anything but merit, pushing talent down and stupidity up. Accuse them of wanting AA because they are probably stupid, afraid of working hard and earning it (even throw in something like "unlike the rest of your classmates here" even if they are left leaning or minority, because you divide them when you do this by complimenting some of them while insulting others). The truth is, the left is so used to winning right now that they don't know how to handle it when someone fights back.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Ha! Havent heard that one in forever.

I'd say it like playing chess with a chicken. Its just going to knock the pieces over, shit all over the board, then strut around crowing like it won.

at all those systems you mentioned, and every other system, the outcome merely lies in who is running it. usually those are people who corrupted the system in their favor on the costs of others which leads to the exploition of the common man.it doenst matter which system you choose. the only way to have a system that isnt corruptable is to not have a system at all->anarchy

this is exactly it

ask them when it has ever worked

ask them who's going to grow their food, purify their water, or build their houses

protip you can't do that with a gender studies degree

Sure you can
>step 1 get gender studies degree
>step 2 wait for a man to do the job
>bitch the whole time about dender disparity in number of women hired in agriculture, water treatment, and construction
>move into the house and eat the food and drink the water that those mean old men provided
>its not hypocrisy, you deserve it as compensation for the discrimination you suffer

This.

Also, if you really plan on going out with your views ekspect a lot of animosity, and that nobody can prepare you for debates against the leftist shitlibs that infest those places. Your only hope is to learn on your own.

The only advice that I can give, is that they are more interested in the rhetoric than the argument itself, plus if you use their nomenclature for things such as gender politics, you will signal a higher status among them.

Prepare to become depressed.

derp_commander is a known redditor and /qa/tard

hes also a huge attention whore who feels he needs to have a name on an anonymous imageboard

he is the biggest faggot to ever walk this earth

My best experience using this guys tactic

Anyone who votes right wing is insane

>Why do you have to use the the mentally disabled as a prop to push your agenda?

N-no its just... youd have to be crazy to believe this stuff

>"its just that" you are using mental illness to push your opinion because it carries with it the discrimination and negative connotations of being too dumb and incompetent to care for themselves, thats kind of a shitty thing to do.

So now they are defending the mentally ill claiming they didnt mean it.

Lets be real, they really werent thinking about the mentally ill, its just that in thier mind the word insane and right wing are equal, and you now have them directly defendi g the insane, which means they are i directly defending the right wing.


So on some subliminal level they are now defending the concept that they hate, which could possibly plant the seed for further concessions down the line, and has a tiny, itty bitty chance to lead to a full on red pill moment.

You arent going to convert them in one discussion, the trick is to use thier own lingo to blend in and slowly but sureley guide the discussions towards what you want them to think over prolonged and multiple debates.

why

>implying hardcore lefty profs won't fail him for deviating from the party line
>implying he won't face massive ostracism for speaking out against leftist oppression

They're incredibly aggressive against wrongthink. Hiding your powerlevel is a very viable option.

Heres the problem, in college you are entering an echo chamber for leftist thought.

Lets use a simplified example of it, a newfag goes on Sup Forums and says "I dont like chocolate milk"

Everyone ostracises, berates, and ridicules him. In order to be accepted he will now state that he fucking loves chocolate milk in every situation from here on out where it applies because he wants to fit in.

In college hiding your power level is just a way to avoid having to weaken your own position by not granting an opportunity to be shouted down by a room full of people.

When that happens your ideology looks weak and unsupportable and thier conviction in thier beliefs becomes strengthened.

You gotta blend in, play 4d chess by learning the lingo and injecting situations into the dialog where they are forced to either admit a tiny portion of thier thinking is incorrect, or to acknoledge that a small part of the opposing viewpoint is valid.

You are now subverting the party line, and your power level is still hidden. Having a hidden power level doesnt mean admitting defeat and not taking action, it means you are becoming subversive instead of offensive.

He's right. To beat the Jew, you must become the Jew.

Exactly, dont view it as
"Im stranded behind enemy lines"

No, you have INFILTRATED enemy lines. Theres only one of you and a bunch of them, so a direct offensive is off the table. But that doesnt mean you cant cause damage, well placed sabotage can be more devastating than a direct attack.

>Alright professor, here is my 12 page thesis on cultural marxism titled "The jews cause all the whores"

Just hide your power level, college isn't about being yourself, it's about finding people who will give you a job and saying what the professor wants to hear so you get a good grade.

>dat pic
Not a fan of communism, but I do love the Red Alert games.
You could've at least posted this song.
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>inb4 communist soviet blahblahblah
The lyrics to the song are basically a parody making fun of soviet propaganda.

Lifes good phone call. Nvm bill collector

>Give me every argument against communism, socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy you can.
>guys I FEEL i don't like these things but i dont even know what they are can you give me statments which disprove them?

Do you hear yourself? You're a fucking drone incapable of independent thought. Go fuck yourself and this Tumblr tier bullshit.

You sound like a cunt for wanting to debate them in the first place. It is like those nu males who try to argue with the christian anti abortion people who come on to campus. You are every bit as obnoxious just let them have their opinion

Also since youre on Sup Forums I imagine you are generally not a very well put together person. You arguing on behalf of anything is probably does more harm for it than good

and finally you will alienate yourself from nearly every social circle. No social circle = no pussy. You will regret 4 years of getting no sex during the time of your life it will be most easily obtainable

You'll be fine. They won't do shit to you because if you debate your enemies, they win

I felt like you once but you have to realize that you're doing yourself no good by arguing with them. Agree, pass and move on. You are there for an education not to make a statement

>implying that is a diamond
That looks more like quartz.

Rare flag zomg

To avoid agreeing with their ideology in papers and such, you can often word things such as "the author stated....." so that you yourself are detached from the propaganda. sounds small but can help you stay under radar as you can site anything and never disclose your beliefs

There's nothing wrong with Socialism it's just welfare idiots took over the idea of socialism. In a proper socialist state the only people receiving welfare would be those physically incapable of work. School wouldn't be free either you'd need to give back to the government in return for the costs.

I'd be totally for Free schooling with the caveat of being assigned a government or government related position for 10 years with garnished wages until the costs of education were paid off and costs to be paid directly by the person if they drop out or are unable to keep the job. Plus a system like that would make it easier to populate some of the more undesirable positions in a large governmental body with people forced to do a good job or be given a debt that immediately starts taking on interest.

The problem is you are expecting people to do what makes sense. There will ALWAYS be a group of disruptive idiots who snatch instinctivley at the benifits, make zero attempt to uphold thier end of the bargain, and then begin protesting the inhibitions on thier life in increasing numbers and volume.

Its why social programs with the caveat of reperation never work. You spend money giving the benufits, then even more money trying to chase down the delinquents and attempt to get them to uphold the deal.

Eventually you are either just admittibg defeat and handing out shit for free, or going gestappo and making the punishment for no cooperating so dreadfully severe that nobody could possibly dream of transgressing.

Its why socialized nations either become nanny states or police states.

My nation uses socialized programs as the bread half of the old saying "bread and circuses."

Mass media covers the circus part.

Atleast in america, socialism is just a bribe to the bottom class to contain thier occaisional riots and perpetual petty crime to thier own neighborhoods.


You are correct, on paper socialism works great, but humans are shitty people, and thus whats good on paper becomes shitty upon execution.

This. Just mimic everything you're taught and vent to your friends.
Pissing off your teachers and fellow students will just make a miserable experience even more miserable.

>Literally the identical argument made by every ancap ever.

t. fbi

> I'm going to university next month. Undoubtedly I'll be the subject of loud criticism from students on the left. Give me every argument against communism, socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy you can. I'll need all the help I can get when it's 100:1.

You're fighting for the kikes in a D&C battle.

What matters is nationalism vs globalism. Capitalism vs. socialism, totalitarianism vs. liberalism. All that's just fucking around in the margins.

Kikes don't even like communism any more, large scale "representative" democracies such as the US and EU serve their purposes much better.