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What about roads?
when will you do away with the nap and start lynching ancoms and other social anarchists? they won't leave you, or any other right anarchist alone and 99% of them don't want peace between the different factions. they serve no purpose other than being test subjects imo
Is that you, Jim?
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Lol who needs roads when you could fly with Ford™ hovercraft?
Don't worry Ancoms are mostly white teenagers who are just starting to get in the real world but don't like it. They will kill them selves because they feel so guilty for being white. NAP still applies
What kinda of statist shit is this?
Toasters gonna toast.
What about them?
>this man comes up to you and offers you someone else's money
do you take it?
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>cause they feel so guilty for being white. NAP still applies
Don't worry, Ancaps are mostly white teenagers who just started reading Rand and it gave justification to all the bullying they're going through. They will either kill themselves because they realize they aren't the genius ruling class they thought their childhood bullying automatically qualified them for, or they will grow the fuck up.
does it breach the NAP if I buy something stolen? what if I didnt know it was stolen?
The original owner has the right to drop a recreational nuke on you regardless.
I always wanted to make this thread anacap kun
Come back, Jim.
No because that's acting in part of violating NAP also isn't that what a government worker does anyway?
Then (unless owner comes to you and encounters you) you accept because you didn't know. If the owner comes up just tell him who gave you said item.
If they want the item back, either you give in or hire private investagators to see if the item is indeed his. If it figured as his then it's either you give it back (price negotiations may take palce here) or have a appels case over if you indeed own it now or the NAP violation of the robber still applies that the owner of the item is indeed the real owner.
Lol
What happens when the private military & police forces realize they hold all the power?
>memes allowed
If you were truly an anarcocapitalist then you wouldn't believe in the concept of granting or waiting for permission.
>implying there's a single Private militrary company or police force
There will be many police and military services so there won't be one big military/police force.
only valid Response™
I'm mainly Ancap because I want statist to fuck off and blow it out their ass. If a single fed steps on my property, they're dead. If a man can't live like that IDK what what the point in life is.
who will regulate and prevent against monopolization of those forces?
>Death is an okay option™
The people. If you don't like a service, don't buy theirs. buy someone elses or don't support the industry at all. it's up to the people who gets wealthy and poor via captialism.
monopolies are created by the government
so then what if a large corporation like Wal-Mart™ grows as it has in our society, where it has taken over small towns and run out other small businesses?
Are you a warlord by any chance?
how can ancap exist if there is no government to enforce contracts
What™ If™ Someone™ Copyrights™ Every™ Word™ So™ You™ Have™ To™ Pay™ Royalties™ When™ You™ Publish™ Something™ Or™ Else™ It™ Violates™ The™ NAP™?™
Goverment allows shit like that to happen btw via regulations and taxation which make it very difficult for small stores to compete agienst the team of lawyers tthat work for walmart.
Copyright infengement is a goverment creation. people will plegerize under ancap society lmao.
Copyrights are a violation of the NAP.
And you think it would not run even more rampant without government control?
Possibly
The only people to enforce TM has been Goverments. it won't mean shit in ancap because it isn't a physical property.
>When your neighbor hears you typing on your computer as you type on Sup Forums™ but the sound waves trespass onto his property which violates the NAP so he hires the McArmy™ to destroy your house
Mcarmy is violating N.A.P™ now, what do now?
He can hire the McArmy™ because you struck first by letting your sound waves enter his property. His property his rules!
If people prefer buying their shit from walmart for 20% of the price that Mom N Pop's County General Store, isn't it better that customers choose more efficient businesses rather than less efficient ones?
But is that a policy of the Mcarmy™? do they cover soundwave intrusion?
Because then wal mart gets more powerful and grows and grows until the country becomes the United States of Walmart with its own McArmy (all private, of course)
Of course, because the more problems they solve, the more profit they make
what is the n.a.p
>implying all problems are solvable by bombing
Calling Mcpolicing™ to ask if you could quiet down. much cheaper alternative, JS.
Non Agression Principal
What do you mean more powerful? They can get richer, but they have no power, only customers who can switch to a competitor at any time.
Would you not argue that mcdonalds or walmart holds a lot of power in our society? they employ thousands and provide services to tens of thousands. who says they can't come up with/buy their own private forces in a world without government?
Stock holders and customers.
why on Earth would you keep buying from a corporation that has an army
I'm not ancap but this is fucking retarded
Mcdonalds and Walmart don't have any power over anyone. Their employees can quit and work for a competitor at any time, their customers can stop buying their products and switch to a competitor at any time. There's nothing implicitly wrong with a company being very rich or being very large.
Why should I be an ancap rather than a voluntarist
They are synonymous.
They're the same thing btw. Ancap is total voluntary
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They're not though. Ancap implies something about property relations, while voluntarism makes no implications beyond "interactions must be voluntary".
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Ancap makes arguments about property (since some say it's a goverment entitlement) but it's just about the government fucking off really and alot of people seem to miss that. seriously just fuck off statist let us be.
We have shit like "taxation if thieft." we basically believe every life choice should be voluntary. Government get's in the way of peoples money Via taxation so... Ancap is the way to go for total Voluntarism
Ancap commits to things voluntarism doesn't, like a theory of justification for the use of defensive force. Voluntarism does no such thing. I'm a pacifist, so *no* justification for the use of force, even if it's labeled defensive, flies for me. Ancap thus does *not* seem the way to go for me, and why I use the voluntarist label from time to time.
social contract
What do you do with the millions of people too stupid to think for themselves and those who want to use force
Age of consent, what is it in the Ancap world?
Didn't sign shit.
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When you were born in this country, you did
you benefit from it
>All contracts must be signed!
I guess verbal and implied contracts don't exist.
I do believe you've been injecting too many ancap meme's my friendo.
We believe they can be a service because if there's a market, there can be an industry. Now in such an industry force will be rarely used (such as in an active shooter situation or bank robbery) Most situations (98%) would inolve most likely talks and private courts.
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>implied contracts
Watch the video.
But I didn't.
No, I'm well aware of the ancap position. I've read a very large sum of ancap literature, from Rothbard to David Friedman. I thought I was an ancap for years.
Ancap commits itself to a belief that defensive force may be justifiable. When someone violates the NAP, defensive forced used against them may be justified. That is, 100%, incompatible with pacifism.
Cosent=consent
but you do
You pay taxes so
>police can protect you
>firefighters can save you
>your roads are smooth and functional
>cars are regulated and safe because of government measures
>your food is not tainted
>there is not a toxic factory next door to your home
etc etc
>Consentual contracts
What if I don't want their services?
How do we know the boundaries of private properties and how will judiciary systems work.
Why start the thread if you are to afraid to answer questions?
I don't pay taxes. I don't ask for any of that.
But let me give you an example here -
You pay "protection" money to the mafia so
>mafia can protect you
>mafia can save you
>your roads ("provided" by the mafia) are smooth and functional
>cars are regulated and safe because of mafia measures
>your food is not tainted (the mafia requires quality... or else)
>there is not a toxic factory next door to your home (or else)
That shit does not justify the mafia. No matter what the mafia does with the money it violently steals from me, it does not justify their doing so. It is exactly the same with government.
Yeah but who's stopping them from beign an industry m8. also Video says they may exist but they won't be a resort for many situations as it's very ineffective and costly.
>Yeah but who's stopping them from beign an industry
What? *WHO* being an industry? What are you talking about?
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Gr8 Argument m8
Still waiting on the answer to my question Ancap... Or do I just need to move on because I found yet another Ancap who cant answer said question.
Brilliant retort. Indicative of an intelligence even brighter than your writing patterns had led me to intuit ;)
Capitalism is an invention of the state.
>voluntary association and trade is an invention of the state
Ancap doesn't say anything about questions like that.
What's the expression for the differential scattering cross-section of an incident particle of charge q1 and kinetic energy E that scatters off a heavy stationary particle of charge q2?
Also who will build the roads?
People who build roads will presumably keep building roads in the future. As will new people who have not built roads who get into building roads, ceteris paribus.
The people who need high grade defense service. reminder it's "defense force" not "Offensive force" which will act in the name of security.
If there is a robbery in a store and the life of everyone is at risk, then you would notify your defense service and they'll come to resolve the issue. If the issue can't be resolved peacefully (And in that situation it's very unlikely) they'll call their High Volatility Task Force (HVTS) to try and resolve the situation the same way a swat team would.
>why on Earth would you keep buying from a corporation that has an army
because you have no choice. Let's say that wall-mart owns all railways and highways so you are quite forced to use their services. New entrepreneurs do not have the money to start new railway and highway businesses because it is expensive as fuck (this is called Natural monopoly). In free market these natural monopolies are inevitable
didn't respond to my response. if you wishshed for me to clarify, should of asked so.
(my response to you)
>see op
>think its going to be an ancap meme thread
>people actually asking the 11th grader who started the thread questions
Fucking NAP violation if I ever saw one, tactical nukes en route to Sup Forums's server host.
>Finlan
>Know how shit works
Pick one and one pick only
Isn't that what Goverment is doe?
So any age can consent.
I'm not talking about "defensive services". I'm talking about the *PHILOSOPHY* underlying the NAP. Which holds, for ancaps, that defensive force - whatever that is - may be justifiable under certain circumstances.
I am a *pacifist*, so that does not *fly*. It doesn't matter if every single person in an ancap society never hurt a fly, and force were never used - the fact that ancap philosophy *at its base* allows for the justifiable use of force in *ANY* circumstance, whether that circumstance ever instantiates or not and regardless of its frequency or infrequency, is incompatible with pacifism. A pacifist cannot be an ancap.
Money is. As are market rules.
Who enforces the law and who decides what laws should be enforced?
What is to stop someone with more wealth and power from forcibly removing you and taking your property?