Give me ONE (1) good reason true Socialism is bad. If you bring up Mao...

Give me ONE (1) good reason true Socialism is bad. If you bring up Mao, Stalin or Hitler remember that those weren't true Socialism.

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define true socialism

>true Socialism
lel

Imagine the USSR but without any corruption. It's a perfect ideology.

venezuela

so basically
>still have private property
>still use money
>persecute people for being enemies of the state
>make enemies of other nations
>invade other nations for little good reason
>argue with other countries who claim to be socialist (china, yugoslavia, etc)
. . . err

Doesn't take account of the small thing we like to call human nature, that leads to Mao, Stalin and Hitler.

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This.

But didn't Hitler bring Germany back from a crippling depression, got the German people back to work, created industry and roadways, all while many other Western nations suffered?

>le t-they are not true socialists/communists
Everytime

I can't, because it's already good. Just look at Venezuela.

yes. hard core command-economy communism isn't the only form of socialism. laissez-faire capitalism has destroyed society over the last 4 decades.

No true Scotsman all up in here.

>it's not true fascism because it didn't go my way
works both ways darling

socialism is bad because it promises a utopia. such ideologies are 100% guaranteed to be distorted by dictators as "necessary tough progress toward utopia"

im coming for you

People don't want to work necessary shit jobs for shit pay.

This leads to a disaster if you try to follow socialistic values and principles.

How USSR solved this?

People worked these shit jobs at gunpoint.

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Give me an example where Marxism has been equally successful as Capitalism. Burden of proof and all that you know.

It doesnt reward merit.
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Uhh try sweden?

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>Hitler
>socialism
>choose one

>weren't true Socialism

No, they were all true socialism. They took away people's economic freedoms and that's why they failed.

Nobody claims that you mongolic commie

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punishing success and hard work whilst promoting laziness and failure

also, claims to own your output and have the right to spend your money for you

I hate this stupid meme, Venezuela's issues are from having their economy based one fucking highly volatile export (oil). This could happen to a capitalist, socialist, or communist economic system you dumb fucks.

Name one socialist country that has ever prospered, without mass famines, genocides?

>protip you cant.

Because it's theft. All socialism is involuntary monetary participation.

except here, every time someone says fascism doesn't work you get
>well uh....real fascism hasn't been tried yet

Communism is more vulnerable to it because they used oil as a source of gimmedats as opposed to some kind of investment. Typical left wing policy.

and yet it didnt

Here you get every time fascism was tried war fucked everything up.

None, but the same is for a pure capitalist country.

Now a mixed economy like all of the western world works wonders.

I dont understand you fuckers on both sides capitalist/socialist... the world never works on extremes it always takes balance.

Sweden wasn't built on marxism though

No if you have one export that fuels your economy and that export takes a dive in the global market your economy is fucked capitalist or socialist.

Socialism is based on a radical egalitarianism. The kind of egalitarianism that says we are all interchangeable blank slates.
This has been proved wrong by science (the Human Genome Project, for example), and common sense (we are all essentially different and hierarchy is inevitable).

Give me one reason why child raping is bad. If you bring up egitimate rapists, children emotions and biology remember that those are not true child raping facts.

Socialism favours the lazy and dumb while punishing the smart and successful ones. This leads to less innovations and a stagnating society and economy.

>ohh you want to save your money to invest in new machinery? Sorry but we need you to pay 500000% taxes so that poor Sven can get his gibmoney.

>everyone earns the same and lives in shitty commieblock apartments so no incentive to work harder
>no chance of getting fired thanks to zero unemployment, so its easier to slack off all day
>inevitably get executed for being too bourgois

Seems like capitalism has worked for people for hundreds of years. No socialist country has lasted 50. I agree with you on the extremes and finding a balance bit. An-cap or pure capitalist would be fine for a day or 2, but after a while it would become hell as the local warlord fires a tow missle at the police station for arresting his child prostitutes smugglers, which hinders profits, which violates the NAP

List a pure capitalist country. You cant. All of the greatest countries had a mix of socialist and capitalist practices.

Things like road, police (when correctly trained and accountable), fire services, ect benefit society as a whole even the ones that cant pay.

>laissez-faire capitalism has destroyed society over the last 4 decades.

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