How can this thought pattern possibly be mainstream?

How can this thought pattern possibly be mainstream?

How depressing and soul crushing must our world be for someone to even have this thought, let alone it being prevalent?

go back faggot

>How can this thought pattern possibly be mainstream?
The logical conclusion of socialist policies.

That's actually a common thought process for good parents to make.

>is life good enough to bring more life into it

Only people in failed states with perma slums dont ask themselves that question.

There are few visions of reality that are compatible with wanting to exist. You can be a stoic or mystic but other than that it is kind of hard to reconcile the massive suffering that is so much of existence with any kind of positive outlook or desire to live.

i hate this shit so much. One of my gfs had this opinion. Its honestly the logical conclusion of a consumerist marxist adhd society.

if theres anything to take away from life its to always fight for what you believe in, have a family, let them experience life for the goods, not the bads. Ending your family is so fucking selfish. Shes implying she owns the right to decide if more humans can grace the earth and help advance civilization. I dont understand how you can look around and see what the human race has done and turn around and not do your part because it hurts your fee fees

I feel this way. I read about things like Rotherham, see the shit on television, and see white girls dating black guys, and it makes me very adamant that I will never have children. At least this way the world can't defile them.

>and not do your part because it hurts your fee fees

are you asserting that one must reproduce if they are able?

What obligation does anyone have to society to pay dues?

>against marxism
>support collective group think like "for the good of humanity"

no obligations to anyone or anything except obligations you make yourself, loyalty to only yourself and what you care for. how then can one care for hypothetical non-existent offspring?

>massive suffering
bitch, i'd rather be burning alive than not existing, at least I can feel alive

this.

don't really want to bring someone into this failed world full of fucking shitskins and tolerance for the intolerable.

people had kids during the black plague, mongol invasions, famines, ebola outbreaks, and during major wars.

it takes a special kind of faggotry to live in the first world and complain about the world being so terrible that you cant have kids.

fuck them. i cant have my own kids (cancer) and it pisses me off so much to hear some who can go "woe is me, life is so terrible because i have a job and have to pay rent. i dont even know if its worth it." fucking cunts.

I have a 14 month old. I often feel incredibly guilty bringing her into such a piss stain of a world. Only thing I can do at this point is dedicate my life to being the best dad I can be.

Save le White Race memes aside, Antinatalism is a very logical conclusion to our predicament in the world. The Buddhists got it right, life is suffering, because everything is impermanent and tainted by disease, decay, and death. We're only here now trying to make the best of it because our parents gave in to the demands of their primitive instincts to fuck. We don't have to follow along with the herd, having kids just because everyone else does. You will find a lot of intelligent male celebrity types don't fall for the kids meme because they want to live a fulfilling life by themselves, not give up at age 30 and hope the kid does something worthwhile (but falls in the same trap all over again). Why should you have kids? Muh genes is the most ridiculous meme ever concocted. The stupidest people breed without questioning it; it takes a certain level of intelligence and insight to actually question not only one's own existence but existence as such and whether one should intentionally create a new being or not. If you never question it, maybe you're in the stupid camp.

You mean, this is the thought pattern for beta cucks.

Good parents know procreation to be important because it enables them to pass their values and genetics on.

get a job. help on the most simplest of levels and you paid your dues. you are already living in so much comfort because of the people before you that literally risked there lives. millions of people died for the situation we are in today. If you have the mental fortitude to see things arent perfect, instead of complaining. start helping your community now. Have kids and instill in the the values that will make a good world for people that come after you.

what the fuck are you on about. civilization is riddled with ideals for the good of humanity. thats the point of it. also marxism and group think are not the same in any way shape or form

Okay, but I would rather have my daughter catch the black plague or ebola, get raped by mongols, or die in a bombing campaign than to have her date a nigger.

If you have kids you have to sell yourself completely to society in order to make them happy. Its a tough decision. Kids are expensive as fuck.

then you better raise her right, user.

>enables them to pass their values and genetics on

For what purpose? So our offspring can continue our suffering? So they can grow up in an ass-backwards world?

>people like this unironically exist

>XD i hate hillary AND TRUMP LETS JUST NUKE THE WORLD XD

ITT: bluepilled idiots

if you are redpilled, you realize that life is completely pointless and actually has a negative value. it is better to be dead than to be alive. if you disagree or simply think i'm being edgy you are bluepilled beyond you will ever know. redpilled is not "LE WOMEN ARE WHORES, FEMINISM IS STUPID AMIRITE" it's knowing the truth

Yeah, listen to this go- i mean guy

>Fight for what you believe in
did that

Had to leave my job and then almost died for lack of health insurance. I will never have kids.

the point is you raise them to turn the world back around so noone has to suffer anymore.

Bullshit. Pop culture controls everyone now. To keep your kids safe from pop culture you would have to become Amish. That would be just about the only reasonable way to have children at this point.

Then why haven't you killed yourself?

>Then why haven't you killed yourself?

Like clockwork.

We've reached a tipping point in world consciousness. People are beginning to wake up to the infinite meaninglessness and suffering of life. In a few decades, we'll be leaving our physical prison my the billions.

Being truly red pilled is reaching a mental state of nirvana after activating the seven major chakras. Only Freemasons have the knowledge to make this possible unfortunately.

I'm gonna be honest. I want a family kids & all that. Just entered my 30s. I'm not in the financial or secure position to do that. Nor have I met a loyal awesome chick. You make a slip or 2 and you are a poor bastard until you die.

Also, all my friends went through the "lets all have weddings" phase. Now we just entered the "let's get divorced. Fuck this world" phase.

No, you retard. If you think being dead is so much better than being alive, then logically you should have killed yourself by now. The only thing holding you back is you.

It's okay to be a coward, just own up to it at least.

the real red pill is continuing to wage the war on nihilism. The average person needs to believe in some sort of coherent beliefs about existence. this is human nature and should always be preserved

What a fucking moot point. In this day and age of information accessibility and production to believe that one person can make a difference is fucking naive. Its all about money and ifluenece. Something that a new born to the common man will be lacking in both. At this point we are just going through the motions.

>i·de·al·is·tic
>characterized by idealism; unrealistically aiming for perfection.

What do you feel if you don't exist? Let that sink in.

>If you think being dead is so much better than being alive, then logically you should have killed yourself by now.

If you think that being a millionaire is so much better than being poor, then logically you should have gotten rich by now.

Whoops, you're unable to? YOU'RE WRONG, BEING A MILLIONAIRE SUCKS. MILLIONAIRES BTFO!!!!!!!

>leddit

I'm a military contractor that works for the USAF I work on the Search Radars that look for enemy aircraft or missiles that might attack America. So I like to think I'm helping my nation and society.

I dont think that existence is good,I dont think I have the right to bring another person into this world.
I want children but I think it may be unethical to reproduce.

But I'm not worried,most men throughout history have not reproduced,we are not facing a decline in population and I doubt my offspring would be pivotal in history.

>killing yourself takes the same amount of effort as becoming a millionaire
Nice false equivalence, you idiot. You can't pull a trigger and get instantly rich. Jeez you're being painfully stupid right now.
>inb4 'I was only pretending to be retarded'

The term "redpilled" should be a bannable offence for any dipshit who try's to attach to what ever bullshit philosophy they're pushing.

Please follow through with your conclusion and RYS, if you're not willing to concede your faulty math.

>becoming a millionaire takes the same effort as killing yourself
Nice false equivalence, you idiot. You can't win the lottery and instantly die. Jeez you're being painfully stupid right now.
>inb4 'I was only pretending to be retarded'

Are you going to answer the question?

Why don't you kill yourself and everyone around you? Because you don't actually believe that, faggot.

>winning the lottery is just as likely as dying to a bullet to the head
Seriously, retard?

This

Go away and stay away OP

This is a good thing, anybody who can't tell that something is inherently better than nothing doesn't deserve to reproduce

the sense of helping is what creates the purpose. Idealsim is the building block of every great civilization. Come on guys i thought you were fascists.

I started going on reddit about a month ago to collect screenies for a compilation about how fucked they are in the head. I've been going on Sup Forums for the past 6-7 years.

You are right about my point relating to marxism being a false equivalency. My point was, you can contribute to the good of humanity because you already exist. One should not feel obligated to reproduce "just because". If they want to have kids that is perfectly fine, but the priority should be contributing with their own life. People who think they are contributing merely(emphasis on merely) by having kids are the same type who want kids and use reasoning like "because who will help you in old age". You don't know how those kids will turn out or what your future will be, let alone theirs.

> Reddit

>How can this thought pattern possibly be mainstream?
It isn't. Only a small proportion of the population is this pretentious.

>So our offspring can continue our suffering?
If anyone really believed this, they would kill themselves immediately.

>What do you feel if you don't exist?
So painless murder should be tolerated?

I think just not to have kids is too little. Instead we should eliminate universe in that way, so spontaneous generation and live in general could never happen any more.

I call it radical humanism.

Reddit are kids.

They either are, or have the mental state of, 13, 4 maybe up to 15 year olds.

It's all over the site. The cringe. The pseudointellectualism. The pretension. The shallow topics, discussion, the saccharine enthusiasm, the angst, the drama, the mundanity, the attention span of a senile goldfish.

After a while, it just becomes grating. It's a place where no-one grows up, existing for the moment, where nothing changes, nothing is created, everything is one-dimensional, and everyone worries about being "popular".

It is the social environment the internet was created to escape from. The eternal online high school where the web goes to die.

You feel nothing. I.E. much, much worse than terrible pain.

For that girl in the OP to assume her own spawn would live a life so terrible compared to nothingness is basically impossible.

Why don't they just adopt?

i was just thinking about this, do I really want someone who is technically half of me into this shitty world?

>tfw dad of seven kids

Most redditors are too much into (((intellectualism))) to reproduce. The ones that do accidentally will probably end up with fucked kids.

Because they're just trying to rationalize never getting their shit together to even consider having a kid.

This is basically what I'm exploring over there. I'm starting to think it grates on them too, deep inside, and causes them to have thoughts like this. I doubt their "life" outside Reddit has much substance either.