Is it beta or degenerate to date a single mother?

Is it beta or degenerate to date a single mother?

Not if she's hot af like pic related

>Is it beta or degenerate to date a single mother?

Both. It's beta because you're a cuck faggot who can't get his own mate that only has to worry about your own genetic line, and it's degenerate because you're subsidizing a fucking crime factory.

Dude, just do what you want. Are you really that autistic to ask a Mongolian penis forum how you should live your life?

Bump coz I don't know

single mothers should date and marry single fathers.

but where all the single fathers? oh wait, one single chad/tyrone knocked up 20 of those mothers. there's probably 10 single mothers for every 1 single father.

Only acceptable if you're a custodial single father.

why do you post a pic of a beauti grl and ask a stupid question like that?

Not if she's only single because her husband has died as a result of an accident or some terrible disease. Not if she's just a whore and the relationship didn't last.

If you date a single mother, you are committing biological suicide. There's nothing more cuck than suicide.

Yes, you should only marry a single mother if you're a single father

Why are you all acting like you can't have you won't be able to have your own kids if you date/marry a single mother?

i worked with a guy a few years ago who was the meekest fagget ive ever met.
he was on all sorts of anti depressants and anti anxiety and the whole spectrum of shit like that which he would talk about fucking daily.
anyway he ended up dating a white single mother who was as ugly as a fucking goblin, had a terrible hairline attached to a legit 5 head. She had 3 kids with a nigger who *surprise* was in fucking jail. 3 years into their "relationship" the nigger got out of jail and she went right back to him. meek boy got all upset and drove his car into a tree one night trying to kill himself and even failed at that. never heard of him again.

I really dont find voe's plastic smile that pretty tbqh

I lose respect for anyone that goes after a single mother. They're enabling women that treat marriage as a temporary obligation and they're encouraging more women to divorce because there's no consequences for it. These women need to be ostracized by society.

Even if you find a woman who is legitimately decent and not degenerate, it is a bad idea. The child will always form a gulf between you and the woman. Her instincts are to worry about her child and herself, and then you. You will never be a complete family unit.

>Is it beta or degenerate to date a single mother?

Yes. it is beta as fuck. You should ONLY and ONLY can date single mother IF she is a widow. Not her fault that her husband died (in most cases).

So, if the woman attractive, based and widow with kid/kids I'd date her

>Date
Personally I don't think anything is wrong with it. The thing is that I couldn't/woudln't want to be together with a women who kids that aren't mine indefinitly. I want my own kids. So I guess it would be untruthful for me to date a women that has kids, because I would eventually leave her.
With that in mind, would you really want some innocent children to bond with you only for them to be yet again deprived of a proper father figure?
If you love her and don't care about that aspect go for it.

It's not beta if you kill the child.

This. This should be a cautionary tale.

Someone post the pic of her in kebab wrap

both.

What if I make her my woman in body and soul and she discards her current child?

what kind of faggot are you

asking for this kind of advice, you must have tits and a pussy

>Ever EVER even CONSIDERING dating single mothers

You're all fucking fools.

t.Stefan Molyneux

its only not cucky is the baby daddy is dead. so if he isnt then you know what to do. you know what to do.

Its not beta so long as she's cute and only has 1 non-nigger child. You can reclaim her womb by putting 3 kids in her. Otherwise yes it is beta to date a single mother.

Date.....yes
Pretend to like the little ruggie
Rip it raw then bail

Date, no. Marry, yes.

As long as you arent financially supporting her or her bastard children, youre fine.

Single moms are for pump-and-dump purposes only. If she's a proven hoe, don't try to make a housewife out of her. Someone else already tried, and she ended up on her own; that happened for a reason. Spare yourself the time and effort.

BETA. Unless you're a single dad. I don't understand the entitled logic of the single mom. They had all the time in the world to get an abortion or give it up for adoption yet they bitch all day about how hard life is and how men are evil because they don't want to swoop in and deal with all that baggage. Sad!

Depends on a lot of variables.

my "stepdad" only ever acknowledged my existance for my birthday giving me some money but outside of that it was like i wasn't there and i respect him for that.

Dating single mothers is a great way to become a father and pay for someone else's kids.

A lot of single mothers 'collect' children and by proxy collect men. 2-3 fathers and 1-2 on and off boyfriends (which cycle regularly) and she can morph in an out of their life as she pleases. When the men are not dating other women they compete for her attention in the form of:

- providing for the kids (giving her money)
- being a good father (doing whatever she tells you/looking after other kids)
- being a cunt / hateful conversation topic / deadbeat (not being her little)
-stalker who is madly in love with her, always there should she have an emergency.

It's not degenerate or beta. It's fucking stupid. Women who have had one or two kids and tell you they are done are generally full of crap. Even if she doesn't have a kid with you it's probably because she is not impressed with your mcjob.

Dating for a while is fine. Dick it down for a while and learn some good lessons about children in the meantime to use with your future spouse

Are you retarded? If she would discard her current child for you then she's a piece of trash that you want nothing to do with.

Depends on your age. Above 35 they either have kids or want one. I'd date one if the kid was raised decently and she wanted more with me. How the kid turns out says a lot about them.

It's beta behaviour, but it's not degenerate.

Being a step-father is beneficial to society. A lot of crime is due to young men and boys having no one to keep them in line in their youth.

I probably wouldn't ever consider it though.

depends. if she's hot like pic related and you're just getting your dick wet then it's alpha af. however, if you find yourself raising her kid or becoming a "Step-dad" then you're a fucking beta cuck. It's not your own blood and you're spending time and resources caring for someone else's spawn. a kid that will resent you and never see you as their "real dad."

> (OP)
>Not if she's only single because her husband has died as a result of an accident or some terrible disease
You will be miserable in a relationship like this.

It's beta and she knows it.

Not all girls pass their prime in unison. If she wants to settle down with you and the one kid it means she either knows it's time to stop trying and settle down with a beta orbiter like you that won't leave, or have you as a daily driver while she fucks who she wants behind your back. Either way it's never going to be about anything more than her. She'll use the kid to no end as a guilt shield and a manipulative tool to get what she wants, that's all. She knows you're disposable and will drop you at any moment if you fail to conform to her every want and need.

Go ahead and make your own mistakes but don't blame anyone but yourself when you end up babysitting 3times a week while she's "out with the girls" because "she needs a break from being a mom". Don't fall for the "the father cheated on me :(" lie either because that's 100% of the time not true. She either fucked him behind his girlfriend's back and got pregged to hurt the girl or to try to trap the guy, or she had a relationship where she was cheating profusely. If the latter, she was caught by the guy cheating and got herself pregnant to try to blackmail him into staying, or he got her honestly pregnant trying to start a family and she got caught after the fact.

Either way the dad isn't there for a reason.

Unless you can prove he's dead he isn't. He's either in jail (in US it will be from either nogging or her), on a restraining order from her or he left on his own accord. Any way you look at it you're being used. She doesn't have the common decency to not be a useless cumdumpster, has made every shit decision possible despite having opportunity on a golden platter, and her next shit decision is you.

Don't fall for it. You'll regret letting her stupidity boil over and spill into your life and you might even end up killing her.

I once did this about 7 years ago, her bf had passed away before I met her, she turned out to be an insufferable idiot, one of her kids hated me, because I came between them, lasted 2 years before we split.

If I see her around town now I try to walk away as quick as I can, if you want to date a single mum, take a lot of time to think it over first.

Beta as a rule of thumb, but it depends on the context. If the guy is a single father too, how much effort they spend on her child, how old they both are, marital status for either of them and plenty more. But a childless guy under-40 settling down with a woman that had a child out of wedlock and will raise it as his own is 100% beta. No two ways about it, it's the very definition.

An old friend knocked a bird up and I see her about with her fiancée playing happy families. Completely by coincidence the guy has a bit of money behind him and is 'attractive' enough to not be hideous but not enough to actually attract someone else. I can't decide if it's tragic or comic, especially when their pictures pop up on my kikebook feed and I see his family talking about their beautiful grandson/nephew. I can't even begin to imagine the shame my father would feel if I told him I was going to marry a single mom.

I wouldn't do it OP.
It's not worth the bullshit.
I have been kinda on and off again with a single mom of two kids since January, nothing serious but here and there.

It was alright at first, we basically didn't do shit other than fuck at her apartment because every time plans were brought up, she had her kids or whatever.
I think the thing that bothered me the most was the fact when she talked about her ex husband she WOULD tell me how great he was and how he basically waited on her hand and foot. But she "got bored" and decided to divorce him.
Then I called her out for it and she then started saying he was shitty because she didn't want to look bad I guess. I kinda felt for the guy really.
She was pretty shitty in the end, and I never met the kids. But she would do this thing where she would ignore me then act smug when I told her off for being a bitch.
Women are Fucking retarded OP and not worth it,
Single moms are for pump and dumping only. You can not be a family with them.

if you kill her baby then its ok, otherwise you are a cuck.

As long as they are happy and arent hurting anyone, who cares ?

I wouldnt do it but even a total beta wants to be happy. Let them be.

>raising another mans child

Ishygddt

Because your child will always be sloppy seconds to the first bastard she squirted out her womb.

Another thing to add, to my post
The sex wasn't that good. I was bored half the time during it. A lot of the time I just wanted it to be over with so I could
Sup Forums on my phone. I don't know if it's just me but women I've been with that haven't popped out puppies yet seem to be more crazy/willing to experiment. I did the bare minimum with her and she acted like it was fantastic when I phoned it in most of the time.

It's degenerate if you date her and beta if you marry her.

Degenerate because it's selfish for multiple men to come in and out of a single mother's life. Having a cycle of father figures is so damaging to her children. And she should know better too and she is only aiding in degeneracy.

Now the moment you marry it because beta. Because you actually just committed to raising another woman's children. And because of that, she will always prioritize her children over you, since you're not the real father. You have to be a real beta to willingly live those circstances.

>Degenerate because it's selfish for multiple men to come in and out of a single mother's life. Having a cycle of father figures is so damaging to her children. And she should know better too and she is only aiding in degeneracy.

the one I was with,she has had about 4 blokes since I left her.its prob why her daughter hated me.?

There are no betas, this is just a result of porn and other artifical relationship ideals.

It's a bad idea.
Another man threw her away for a reason, and it's more than likely not because "He's a piece of shit" like the mother would like you to believe.
Even if he is a "piece of shit" like she will undoubtedly say he is that means she has terrible choice in mating partners, and you shouldn't be in that situation anyway.

9/10 she's using you bro.
With that said I dated a single mother about 6 months ago, but that's just because I needed a place to live rent free.
After a couple months of dealing with that bullshit I got the fuck out of there.

Kek, receding hairline attached to a five head made it.

Dated a single mother. Pregnant at 16 by a heroin dealer/user, completely ruined what judging by photos had been a tight little body. Cunt like a window cleaner's bucket.