Previous Thread:boards.Sup Forums.org/pol/thread/86199058/national-socialist-general-nsg-10#bottom Karl Ruprecht Kroenen edition. m.youtube.com/watch?v=-XssZGz3JQs >What is National Socialism? National Socialism subscribed to theories of racial hierarchy and Social Darwinism, identifying Germans as part of an Aryan or Nordic master race. It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a homogenous society, or "people's community" (Volksgemeinschaft) based on national unity. The National Socialists aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory. The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both international socialism and free market capitalism. National Socialism rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism, and sought to defend the private property and privatey owned businesses of Aryans.
So it is nationalist, in principle capitalist (private property and businesses), with elements of socialism (taking care of the people you live with) and somewhat isolationist. National Socialism aims to take care of your own people the best it can. German national socialism was only for Germans and aimed to improve both the individual and the collective aspects of a German society. It aimed to create hard working individuals as well as support healthy long-term trends for society as a whole. Sports programs and education were massively state funded, and you've all heard of the wonderous military and scientific advancements made in National Socialist Germany (and later perpetuated by National Socialist scientists in the USA). The nationalist character was non-negotiable: only members of the Volksgemeinschaft had a right to be supported by others. Foreigners were unable to exploit the hospitality, resources and high living standards which Germans had created for themselves.
>motivation By white people, do you mean (((white))) people, or...?
Andrew Morgan
you really think white people across the border are going to band together under your autistic ideology?
No, white people are going to go extinct, and there's nothing you cuck losers can do about it. I bet you're just mad because the girl you liked in high school is dating a black guy.
Luke Thomas
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Ian Rodriguez
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Jackson Collins
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Zachary Clark
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Easton Nelson
Well done, you can post degeneracy. Nice try? I guess?
Parker Thompson
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William Bennett
Albino or mixed race ?
Isaac Walker
yo dis shit racist af
Jason Barnes
Funny how they're all American. Better get your shit together, or else the world will be plunged into eternal fire.
Anthony White
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Noah Hill
White girls prefer black men.
Get over it.
Kayden Morris
I didn't go to high school really. I was homeschooled abroad, then tested into University when I was 16. I'm not really detecting any arguments in your posts, just rage and wet fisting noises. >why would this ideology never catch on? Is that why it has to be made illegal, because it has "absolutely no chance of catching on"?
/nsg/ triggers the fuck out of every fag, kike, and nigger on Sup Forums, there's nothing more satisfying than seeing you be this triggered. Dump all the folders you got, bump us to the top of the catalogue. Or remember to type 'sage'... either way, you dance for us.
;^)
Isaac Barnes
Diversity is one thing, Multiculturalism is another.
Jace Gray
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Jack Price
>white girls prefer do they? Is that your fairytale?
;^)
Owen Howard
Not illegal in the US.
Funny how it still hasn't caught on.
George Lincoln Rockwell got killed by his own people.
Austin Williams
Trying to make us butthurt I see? It's not working, in fact the only thing you're doing is helping. Thanks.
Henry Davis
Funny thing is there are probably only a few hundred or thousands spergs like you who even call themselves national socialists.
Its a dead ideology. Get over yourself.
There are more white girls who fuck with black guys than national socialists in this country.
And you think you are going to ever get in power? kek
Zachary Adams
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Anthony Howard
Yeah sure whatever you say pal.
Levi Powell
>following a dead ideology that worships a manlet cuckold who destroyed Europe
Y'all cucks don't get it, do you? How can Aryans even compete? Did they think they would suvive a war against the Anglo Empire?
Cameron Thompson
>Its a dead ideology. Is that why it has to be made illegal across Europe? What is up with non-white fragility? "We wuz dating white wymminz". Sure Shlomo, no one really believes that meme.
Camden Hill
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Adam Russell
communism is illegal too in a lot of places. Nobody wants retards with radical ideologies.
Daniel Phillips
>every fragile non-white on the board rushes to shitpost in /nsg/ That's how we know it's working.
;^)
Sebastian Mitchell
I love it, post moar -- show us how much you suffer.
Jack Ross
If you don't like it, fuck off. Unless you're all shills, trying to change us in a ditch effort of stopping our advance.
Dylan Miller
You are right. I am not white. I am superior. I am Anglo.
Benjamin Ortiz
we're making fun of you autists.
White people will NEVER have a racial identity.
They will continue to be bred out of existence, until there are no white countries left in the world.
there is NOTHING you can do to stop this.
Michael Thomas
I am a white guy. I am fine with white guys with black girls. Then how about you stormfags stop spamming every other thread on every image board out there?
Triggered much? You can't stay in your containment threads/boards and then you get mad when people do the same thing which what you do to them.
Isaac Stewart
>betraying your own race
Mason Martin
Obviously the guy spamming interracial couples is a jewish shill because no one from Sup Forums has those pictures, besides possibly Canada
Connor Richardson
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Oliver Roberts
this. whites are inferior cuckold subhumans bowing down to Anglos
Luis Carter
no offense, but you're kind of a cuckold.
Bentley Gray
One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism. Our Socialism, however, is not in of itself an economic system, it is not the Socialism of Marx and co and stands in direct opposition to both Communism and Capitalism. It would be more accurate to say that to Fascism, Socialism is the definitive social structure which is more comparable to the structures of Individualism and Collectivism, yet it stands in opposition to those two structures as well. Individualism creates a social structure in which every man is for himself, the good of the one trumps the good of the whole, this is the structure most related to Liberalism and the Capitalist economic system. Then we have Collectivism, which is, however, largely misinterpreted nowadays as the good of the whole above the good of the individual - this is a wrong interpretation, because collectivism in its essence is just a mass of individuals with a common interest. In individualism the one seeks out all of his interests on his own, in Collectivism many people who seeks out a common interest group together in the pursuit of that interest.
Isaac Young
>communism is illegal Where? >we're making fun of you autists. if you have to explain yourself, its not really working, is it?
Jose Gomez
Because this is our board, it always has and always will, scum.
Asher Turner
>tfw no pan-Aryan ethno state with an Anglo monarch
Can everyone agree this would be the ideal?
Hopefully with America going down the toilet, and the internet being around, Europe will uncuck itself soon and I can move there.
Landon Stewart
Ignore the jewish shill/cuck
Put it simply: Collectivism is Individualism seeking Strength in Numbers on given common interests. Hence the common interest(s) becomes the primary focus of the Collectivist narrative and is thus easy to define. Collectivism worked for Communism because it worked with an existing and established group - the proletariat - to sell them the idea that together, rather than apart, they could achieve all their common interests, and fulfillment of other individual interests may follow thereafter. Comparatively speaking one could argue that Collectivists get more shit done than Individualists because the victory of a collective influences the outcome for every participant of the collective and they are all somewhat elevated, whereas in Individualism all victories are… individual, and few people achieve them. Moreover in individualism absolutely every single other individual is a competitor, even when you struggle for the same prize, whereas in collectivism everyone within the collective ideally shares in the victory. Ultimately, however, both Individualism and Collectivism are no good for Fascism, as their fundamental premise is individual interest, regardless if it is pursued individually or collectively. We've covered before how Interests are always selfish and self-serving, going against any kind of Order in favor of one's own mere whims and wants, which are always material and inevitably lead to degeneracy.
Matthew Nelson
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Jaxon Walker
Moreover neither Individualism nor Collectivism does anything to preserve one's Personhood (an issue of semantics: I'm using personhood and personality to give different and untainted term to what is commonly referred to as individuality and identity): to be an individual merely means to be a digit, an atom; to be in a collective means to be a cog. In both instances Personhood is not valuable, atoms are just as replaceable as cogs and just as lacking in any real personality, only difference is the less rigid structure of Individualism, where you can maintain the illusion of being your own person, while walking in a sea of clones who can replace you at a moment's notice, because both Individualism and Collectivism work on the premise of equality and necessitate easy replaceability. In both instances personality can be sacrificed, either for a collective mentality or a fake, marketable "individual" identity.
Kayden Russell
>no one from Sup Forums has those pictures, besides possibly Canada You realize most poltards secretly watch interracial porn and jerk off to that?
Sup Forums was the one who introduced me to interracial/blacked in the first place. No I am not though. I don't have a girlfriend/wife. How could I be getting cucked? Poland and the Baltic countries. Go back to stormfront kid. and some white guy is going to help raise that kid. kek
Joseph Stewart
>betraying your own race
Caleb Thompson
Ignore the jewish shill / cuck
Thus you can see how the social structure of Individualism coincides with the economic system of Capitalism, and the social structure of Collectivism with the economic system of Communism. Both Capitalism and Communism seek the same: material prosperity, but one seeks it through a loosely organized competitive free for all (hence the holy cow of the free market, liberal concept of the state not meddling in economics and so on) and the latter seeks it through a collective effort which demands a unified direction (hence the form of State Socialism with control of the means of production and distribution in the hands of the State, and the stateless Communism with those same means being directly in the hands of the collective itself with no middle man). Communism all in all is a direct product of Individualism and Capitalism during the Industrial Revolution, which shaped distinct groups that could be identified, namely the Proletariat and the Bourgeoisie, however both ultimately wanted the same thing, it's just that the latter had already achieved it and relied on the former to maintain their prosperity, hence the inevitable narrative of exploitation: the Bourgeoisie essentially "cheated" the Proletariat in the competition for material wealth, and to finally get what they deserve, the Proletariat had to unite and to "expropriate the expropriators". Communism simply becomes the pursuit of Capitalist goals without the Bourgeoisie to stand in the way of the Proletariat.
David Hernandez
>Go back to stormfront. Go back to Isreal were you belong.
Jaxson Cox
That's what they said in the 20s m8
Oliver Bailey
Apparently a dating site for NatSoc is in the works.
Sebastian Mitchell
Ignore the jewish shill/cuck
The goal of Capitalism is ultimately to work and make profit until such a point when you don't have to work, work is an obstacle to be overcome on the path to having material wealth that can be enjoyed and thus decadence sets in. The Bourgeoisie achieved this goal to the envy of the Proletariat that decided that it was robbed of its take and thus rose up to claim that wealth for itself. It is only logical that with the advancement of technology ideas like "fully automated luxury communism" would appear, proving Spengler right: Marx hated work, making him in that sense no different from capitalists, as that scenario is the dream of every capitalist as well. You can read more on this criticism of Communism and Marx being ultimately the same as Capitalism in Oswlad Spengler's "Prussianism and Socialism" and in the "Marxism" chapter of France Parker Yockey's IMPERIUM. Now that we defined all of this we can finally get back to the original question of Fascist economics. It should be obvious by now that Fascism does not seek material wealth as a goal in of itself, regardless if it is for individuals or a collective. Moreover, Fascism, striving to make human society coincide with the Cosmic Order and the Truth, does not favor obscurification of one's Personhood, but to the contrary wants to develop it to its full potential, which is different for every man, based on their place within the Cosmic Order. Our goal, in short, is creating the Organic State, where everyone is in their rightful place, striving to realize themselves and in doing so contribute to the realization of the nation, the race, and of the ultimate Truth.
Connor Edwards
This goal can only be achieved with a special kind of social structure, one that does not permit for the individualist free for all, nor the collectivist clan/class/group conflicts. That structure is Socialism as Social Order. This is not economic socialism, but Socialism that exists on par with and in opposition to Individualism and Collectivism, by placing upon the people a sense of Duty, which removes the element of interest inherent to these two social structures, defining them as qualitatively the same, and placing our Socialism as qualitatively different (exactly it's inappropriate to talk about any kind of "third paths" when in practice there are only two). Socialism as Social Order likewise undermines, through its introduction of Duty, the fundamental premise of both Capitalism and Communism, who seek the same ends by different means, whereas our Socialism disregards those ends and likewise burdens economics with the same Duty that it burdens the people in the social structure. This Socialism had a variety of names to help distinguish it from economic socialism: Authoritarian/Prussian/German Socialism as opposed to English socialism (Oswald Spengler), Socialism of Political Imperialism (Francis Parker Yockey), Aryan Socialism as opposed to Semitic socialism (Evola), Spartan Socialism (Eduardo Velasco) or just the Socialism of National-Socialism.
Lincoln Reed
lmaoing at you white cuckold bois
Dresden best day of my life
Eli Gutierrez
was raised Christian though ;) That is not even true though.
Juan Baker
If you hate being German so much, why don't you end your life?
Elijah Brown
The definitive aspect of Socialism as Social Order is that it necessitates adherence to Duty, which removes petty individual interests entirely, thus negating individualism and collectivism as rival social structures, and subsequently negating capitalism and communism as economic forms in their purity. This Socialism of Duty by necessity has to figure out and develop one's Personhood to understand his place in the Social Order, thus also realizing his place in the Cosmic Order. By that same necessity Socialism of Duty prevents individual and group conflict by removing the kind of infighting that would tear at the Social Order - the Organic State is called that because it is like a living Organism, with cells and organs, and in a healthy Organism neither cells (individuals) nor organs (collectives) fight each other. A kidney can't engage in a struggle against the heart because they have inherently different purposes to which they are "Duty bound", thus there is no room for conflict between them, no room for jealousy, no room for interests.
Owen Allen
>projecting your own cuckold fetish onto the world
Josiah Watson
There are some truths which are so obvious that for this very reason they are not seen, or at least not recognized, by ordinary people. They sometimes pass by such truisms as though blind, and they are most astonished when someone suddenly discovers what everyone really ought to know... Thus men without exception wander about in the garden of Nature. They imagine that they know practically everything, and yet with few exceptions they pass blindly by one of the most patent principles of Nature's rule: the inner segregation of the species of all living beings on this eart
Adolf Hitler
Kayden King
Socialism as a Social Order, Socialism of Duty thus also necessitates the formation of hierarchy, removing the falsehood of equality, and it affects every member of that hierarchy, from top to bottom, as everyone are Duty bound to their role within the Organic State and in the Cosmic Order. When a person grows to understand his Destiny (in the Francis Parker Yockey sense of the word as Potential), his role in the Cosmic Order, he is Duty bound to fulfill it, to strive for that Personal Truth which is a part of the ultimate Truth. Thus he finds his place in the hierarchy of the Organic State, fulfilling not only his own, Personal Truth, but also the Truth of everyone who fulfills that role, as part of that social strata/estate/caste. Realization of that strata/estate/caste Truth helps realize the bigger Truth of the Nation to which they all belong, which in turn realizes the Racial Truth, in turn realizing Human Truth at large, and each single one of those helps directly fulfill the Ultimate Truth, as well as through that build up of other Truths - this is the Organic State, where everything is in harmony and builds up to a cohesive and organic existence.
Elijah Hughes
Newfag
Samuel James
>Communism is illegal in Poland and the Baltic countries wew, good point, that must mean communism is a dead ideology. Fuck, all this time worrying about the Left for nothing, I'm totally #WithHerNow then >some white guy is going to help raise that kid. kek ;^) You didn't make me say it, thanks. Niggers make their own nooses, Jews build and sell you the ovens. Nature has a special symmetry this way. He's not German, he's (((German))), or perhaps (((Turkish)))
Jacob Cooper
One thing that managed to maintain its natural hierarchy for the longest time is the Army, which operates on the exact same principle (as does everything, the Truth prevails in its principles on all levels, hence the possibility of that build up from Personal to Cosmic Truth), as a result this Socialism of Duty is often brought up with comparisons to the Army, a militant brotherhood where everyone fulfills their role in order for the organism of the Army to be healthy. Economy likewise becomes subservient and Duty bound to the fulfillment of the Organic State, working towards realization of all minor Truths and the Ultimate Truth. Hence in Fascism the primary defining aspect of economics is its subservience to the same common Duty that affects all members of this Social Order. Economics cannot be a goal in of themselves as that breeds individualism, pure capitalism, liberalism, and those in turn lead to the formation of collectivism and communism. Instead, economics must be a tool towards the fulfillment of Duty and the realization of all Truths in the Organic State. Fascist economics is then economy made subservient to the Nation, which is what marks them as "Socialistic", though in actual economic terms the actual system can be a variety of things, perhaps even a form of regulated capitalism, regulated to make it Duty bound to the Organic State, the Nation, the fulfillment of Truth.
Isaiah Brown
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Lincoln Barnes
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Jeremiah Sanchez
Do you read Mein Kampf, user? Very intriguing, the bit about race mixing is my personal favourite. How genius Hitler was, to study nature to understand what a true human should be..
Henry Sanders
Hence the real meaning of Socialism when defining Fascist Economics - Socialism as any economic system being made subservient to the Organic State, the Nation, the fulfillment of Truth. After that you can argue over the technicalities of the exact economic system in place and its technical name, but so long as that system is subservient to those things and is Duty bound like the rest of society, it remains Socialist. I wanted to pepper various quotes to strengthen my point throughout the article but figured that I should instead just list them all at the end with some commentary to showcase exactly how these quotes all point to this understanding of Socialism as Social Order, Socialism of Duty.
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Jeremiah Wright
>Says the shill.
Jaxon Garcia
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Tyler Stewart
In his book "Sparta and its Law" Velasco constantly talks about the Spartan Socialism, which serves to further solidify the understanding of our Socialism as being Socialism of Duty and thus why it is often paralleled with military structures and militant organizations, in this case the militant nature of the Spartan society. The sober, ascetic and martial socialism preached by Lycurgus, which required all young men to part from their families and eat with their comrades, was not well received among many, especially the rich and affluent. Here there is an emphasis on the guilds of vocation and the important bond that existed between those who shared in the same Duty. Sparta became socialist and totalitarian — understood in its original sense of a civilization organized and disciplined by a gifted elite, formed with its best sons, and based on value-blood-spiritual-biological criteria. Such socialism is something that only could have taken place in the Iron Age, as it tried to bring together what was broken, and was more like an aristocracy than a democracy. Spengler described this type of militarist-imperialist-patriarchal system in his Prussianism and Socialism, noting how this system resurfaces again and again in history, incarnating in the larger towns and leading to empires. (Spengler distinguishes four superior socialisms: the Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire, the British Empire and Prussia, which resulted in the Second Reich. We would add two more socialisms: Sparta and the Third Reich.) Well here Velasco does the job of connecting the dots for me whilst also adding the elements that had been more or less left unspoken, namely that the Organic State is derived from common blood and spirit.
Jeremiah Bell
don't feel too bad for the cuck, he's a desperate virgin corrupted by Sup Forums into whacking off to interracial porn... at least it's not ponies or furry
Aaron Williams
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Chase Cox
In his book "Sparta and its Law" Velasco constantly talks about the Spartan Socialism, which serves to further solidify the understanding of our Socialism as being Socialism of Duty and thus why it is often paralleled with military structures and militant organizations, in this case the militant nature of the Spartan society. The sober, ascetic and martial socialism preached by Lycurgus, which required all young men to part from their families and eat with their comrades, was not well received among many, especially the rich and affluent. Here there is an emphasis on the guilds of vocation and the important bond that existed between those who shared in the same Duty. Sparta became socialist and totalitarian — understood in its original sense of a civilization organized and disciplined by a gifted elite, formed with its best sons, and based on value-blood-spiritual-biological criteria. Such socialism is something that only could have taken place in the Iron Age, as it tried to bring together what was broken, and was more like an aristocracy than a democracy. Spengler described this type of militarist-imperialist-patriarchal system in his Prussianism and Socialism, noting how this system resurfaces again and again in history, incarnating in the larger towns and leading to empires. (Spengler distinguishes four superior socialisms: the Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire, the British Empire and Prussia, which resulted in the Second Reich. We would add two more socialisms: Sparta and the Third Reich.) Well here Velasco does the job of connecting the dots for me whilst also adding the elements that had been more or less left unspoken, namely that the Organic State is derived from common blood and spirit.
Benjamin Perez
Thanks to the shills and cucks, /nsg/ has grown. Sup Forums awakens.
Luis Diaz
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Parker Ross
Thank you for this powerful man, and many others like Oswald mosley anglo saxon is a powerful race.
Ethan Rivera
>all these tumblr, twitter, and facebook filenames someone is lonely af
There were no distinctions of wealth, only of valor itself, and the experience was taken into account when assessing a man. They were united by the fact of having passed the instruction, having had similar hardships, and being male Spartans. They were proud to be joining the phalanx alongside those who had amply demonstrated their toughness, bravery and righteousness. That was what made them brothers. Again, this quote helps understand the nature of guilds of vocation within Socialism as Social Order, which had a deeper bonding element to it than merely being colleagues of the same profession, as in such guilds people are bound together in service to the same Truth, a more intimate one than the National or Racial Truth, though they all are inherently tied together and exist simultaneously as part of one Ultimate Truth. This deeper bond comes from the exclusivity of this vocation to these exact people, as it was a reflection of their inner nature. They can respect all members of the Nation as being in common service to the National Truth, but in fulfilling the same vocation members of a guild have a bond based in common instructions and hardships, there is a need to prove that one belongs to this particular brotherhood within a hierarchy of brotherhoods that together form the Organic State.
Gabriel Fisher
No user, the EUROPEAN RACE is a powerful one. WE ARE ALL BROTHERS, WE FIGHT TOGETHER AS COMRADES!
Grayson Cooper
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Kevin Myers
says the Pollack.
Camden Edwards
Oh yes, the Poles. Hitler did not mind the Poles, after a war with the communists, the Polish were treated as Aryans. Pic related, Polish volenteers.
Andrew Jackson
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Zachary Hill
>treated as Aryans All Europeans and some central asians are Aryans. People often confuse Aryan with "nordic" or "German". Aryanism was an ethno-linguistic conception of race, not an aesthetic one.
John Anderson
Germanics in general then. But Slavics, and Mediterranean races count as part of the glorious masterrace, so long as they support NatSoc.
Matthew Kelly
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Kevin Hernandez
I am not a subhuman Kraut, I am Anglo.
Julian Walker
No you're not, you're a degenerate that thinks one part of a race is better then another.
Lucas Morgan
>part of the glorious masterrace That too is often misunderstood. No one understands Nietzsche's distinction between master and slave moralities, or how communism was the vehicle for spreading slave morality. It's gets so fucking boring, that forced meme. Arab-Turks suck at memes.
Julian Flores
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Isaac Jenkins
cuck
Joseph Nguyen
Look at that girl's room (messy, trashy, and disorganized).
It's almost as if the only White girls that want Black men are the ones who's lives are complete messes???
Irish girls often look a bit like this.
All jokes aside, those of us who are NS need to develop a solid plan and pool our resources. Fighting to hold onto every bit of land that has a White population sounds good but it's not the best strategy.
Sometimes strategic retreats are needed. At this point I'd recommend that top-quality NS from the Commonwealth get in contact with British NS and move back to the motherland.
The Battle of Thermopylae would have been a curb stomp victory for the Persians if Leonidas hadn't used superior tactics. He knew how to concentrate his forces. It's time we do the same.
