Why doesn't Turkey recognize the Armenian genocide?

Why doesn't Turkey recognize the Armenian genocide?

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Because it was more of a civil war within the Ottoman Empire than a genocide which unfortunately led to the death of innocent civilians on both sides

1m deaths?

They don't want to pay reparations

This

Because nobody really cares. Not even the armenians themselves. The one butthurt armenian who larps here is not a representation of what they're like in real life.

kazu wakaqu laklawa daruru turu zazu

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>Because nobody really cares. Not even the armenians themselves.

Are you just really that retard? Or just ignorant?

BASED TURKS staying loyal to the çok güzel vatan

Ssssssssh.

One of the biggest rock bands from the 00s disagrees with you

>tf
>tp

Because it is a blow to the image of Turkey. And the Turks will have to apologize to Armenia.

What do Coldplay have to do with the Armenian Genocide?

What image does Turkey have? Besides being a religious dictatorship

To understand the situation I should give you some context. The Ottoman Empire was getting beat down by the Russians. The Congress of Berlin was a meeting between the greater world powers after another Ottoman-Russian war. These powers agreed on greater autonomy of the turkish subjects, in return the Russians would back off from any other territorial gains within the Empire. Romania achieved independence, while Bulgarians achieved almost complete autonomy but were still a subject to the Ottoman Empire. additonally the Armenian population were also promised greater autonomy within the Empire.

Fast forward a few years, a new Sultan ascends the Throne, Abdülhamid han, who wanted to enforce new reforms in order to stop the autonomous regions from gaining power. while he was successful for the most part, he discriminated against most subjects, which lead to rebellions and unrest within the Empire. After being promised autonomy their requests were denied. He abdicated after 1909 because the young turks forced him to, leaving the throne to his brother Mehmed V.. This is when the civil war in armenia started. The Armenians declared independence after the promises of the Berliner Congress were not met. In response, Mehmed send Enver Pasha, a member of the young turks, to quell the unrest. QUELL, not GENOCIDE, Enver basically said "fuck no" and committed atrocities against the Armenian people secretly. Not to say that the Armenians were innocent, as insurgents everywhere in Anatolia where killing innocents as well. Enver was ordered to relocate the Armenians to southern Arabia and escort them. He decided not to escort them, which lead to the deaths of thousands in the Syrian desert.

Again, one MILLION and plus deaths in quelling a revolt? Come the fuck on

Plus the word genocide was coined AFTER the massacre, in reference to the Armenians

After Mehmed heard of what Enver was doing, he exiled him, and severly punished all officers that were a part of this secret massacre. Historians back then agreed that the deaths were around the 800.000ish mark for the armenians, but somehow it got pushed to the 1.5 mil mark today. You can read about everything the Turkish officers and Enver did during these years as Turkey has agreed to release all documents to the public. Armenia refuses to do so, as the state sponsored Insurgents that also killed innocent turks would make Armenia look back in these current talks. Either way, what is happening as of today is disgusting as both sides trivialize the deaths of innocents in order to push their own agenda.

Uhhmmmm.... I wonder who could be behind this post

Did you read what I was doing? The massacre was not state sponsored, it was a rogue general who disobeyed the Sultan and left the Armenians to walk through the Syrian desert, where they were ambushed by Bandits or starved to death. There were no state sponsored death camps, no gulags, no working camps like in Russia or Germany

I don't get it. Can you people only respond with memes and no actual arguments? have you ever read anything about the armenian "genocide" other than what the mainstream media is telling you?

In any case, it is unpleasant to admit this. It's very difficult for to recognize that your nation has committed genocide . The Turks are not Germans, and Armenia is not Europe,nobody cares. I can give another example of the genocide of the Caucasian peoples en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide . Do you think, can apology fix this?
Although it is foolish not to recognize genocide in this situation.

It will only bring up the Assyrian genocide, Greek genocide, the genocide of the laz people, the massakers on christians of all kinds any many many more typical muslims savagery.
Ah and the Kurd genocide.

>The Armenians offered five hundred soldiers and exemption money for the rest in order to buy time, but Jevdet Bey accused the Armenians of "rebellion" and asserted his determination to "crush" it at any cost. "If the rebels fire a single shot", he declared, "I shall kill every Christian man, woman, and" (pointing to his knee) "every child, up to here".
This is what you call rebellion?

>Assyrian genocide
True
>Greek genocide
Wrong
>Laz genocide
Wrong
>Massacres of christians
Wrong
>Kurd genocide
Wrong

we really should start to support the Kurds on full scale this will tear their shithole apart into ashes.

>Jevdet bey

was punished by the Sultan for his crimes against the Armenian people

The Armenians stood no chance against the Ottoman Empire so they did what a rebellion smaller than the army they are facing did: Guerilla warfare.

The drop that filled the glass happened when turks couldn't beat the russians in the Caucasus Campaign during WW1.

They actually got BTFO.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Campaign

And that forced them to look for a scapegoat... Who? The armenians.

A poor community discriminated, segregated and dissatisfied with the Ottomans.

So basically they said: "hey, armenians are guilty for all our problems, they're oyr enemies"

I bet you already know this from another country who did the same...

> betray your country in wartime
> get found out collaborating with the enemy, supplying them with maps, logistics, etc
> when the government troops arrive, claim persecution and 100 years later ask for gibs

Armenians were the victims of genocide, that's true. And genocide is bad. However, it was an absolutely standard way to deal with rebellious minorities in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
> Circassians
> Balkan Turks
> Herero
> Boers
> Namaqua
> native Algerians
> Ndebele
> Chinese Christians
> Comanches
> Seminoles
> Sri Lankan adult males
> Moriori
What the Ottoman Turks did to the Armenians was horrible but it was completely within the ordinary.

Why don't Russians recognize the Holodomor?
Why don't Americans recognize Native genocides?

>Holodomor

It's not only Ukies who died. The whole southern part of the USSR was fucked up.

>your country

Ukrainians and Kazakhs resisted collectivization longer than all, so they created an artificial famine.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_famine_of_1932–1933

End yourself turkroach

Really? I went to Hayastan last year and people brought it up in almost every fucking conversation.

Never did anything wrong, the guanches and caribs deserved it :^)

because they're roaches and we need to kick their ass out of NATO

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Its never too difficul to spot a Turk

Go back to your country, roach

We don't recognise Armenia and the genocide, therefore; I do believe we trounce the t*rks in this matter.

Ah yes the one million civilians all fought. Roaches are a new level of low IQ

>my christcuck ass is on fire

ITT

Politics

Its not even funny any more

Well it wasn't a genocide.

But you know, I wish it was, I hope my great grandfather raped the skull of an Arm*Nian mother infront of her subhuman children and then had to watch them brutally slaughtered infront of her as she is forced to watch. I would hope he drinks her tears but it is from a filthy animal so if he didn't I understand his decision to stay clean.

Fuck Arm*Nians.

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stay out of politics you don't understand you potato eating mongrel. Isn't half of your shitthole country occupied btw? you have more important things to worry about byzanboo subhuman

>all the german flags in this thread
it's perfect

>Byzaboos and Balkshits
>We WILL retake Constantinople and make Anatolia Christian again! Turkroaches are shivering with fear!
>Turks
>DO have Istanbul, a devoutly Islamic Anatolia, and a military so strong that the entire forces of all of the Balkans combined can do nothing to stop it

I wasn't talking about the meme

He meant that Ottoman empire wasn't "their country" for Armenians. It was an occupant and an oppressor.

I would honestly go and fight turks if they go to war against cyprus.
I'm doing nothing significant with my life.

Turks weren't the aggressors in that conflict though

the absolute STATE

They literally weren't, Makarios and Grivias started that conflict after Cypriotic-Greeks tried to get you guys out of their island. The Turks invaded the island after the first C. Turks got killed after the coup which got fueled by the Greeks. The literally broke the London and Zurich treaty and the Turks rightfully intervened, so they weren't the aggressors in that conflict. The latter stage of operation Atilla wasn't rightful, that's obvious, but a potato-nigger like you should be able to understand the meaning of the word "aggressor", it's your mother tongue after all.

Most of the world doesnt. Not a single country in Africa or Asia (besides Syria) does.

Recognizing genocides is just about stroking the dicks of your allies/pissing of your "rivals" anyway, it's not like they actually care. Most of the cunts who didn't recognize it don't have anything to do with both parties abd they don't want to piss one of them off so they can keep the chance of developing better diplomatic and economic ties once they might need them

Why do you care

This is one of situations I encounter almost always. Levant and Iraqi Arabs stand with Armenians while gulfies shit.