German Jewish soldiers celebrating Hanukkah during WW1

German Jewish soldiers celebrating Hanukkah during WW1.

Why did the Germans hate these people?

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German officers wanted someone to blame, and like .1% of the Jews fighting for Germany either defected to the other side, or were spies.
So they chose them.
Or something such as that.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but I know it has to do with German officer corps exaggerating numbers of Jews doing dirty shit, and even fabricating some evidence.

AFAIK anti-Semitism was more of an Austrian than a German thing (Hitler obviously was Austrian).

Weren't Austrians really autistic about physical attributes back then?
I know Hitler got barred from entering their military, which is why he joined Germanys

Check who were the commies fighting for the socialist republic of germany in the german revolution

Anti-Semitism was present in all of Europe in those times. People blamed the Jews for the banks that profitted from the arms trade in WW1, for the Russian revolution, for the Spanish flu, for espionage etc. The Holocaust could have been started by any totalitarian European country.

>a few thousand communist Jews decide to attempt a coup in Germany, during a time that revolutions were wide-spread
>hurr they all need to die

Also, if coup was reason, why did Hitler not genocide fascists? Fascists staged a coup as well.

This is true, but it was certainly more pronounced in Germany.
It's the equivelent of comparing say Trump (UK/Spain/Italy) to people like on Sup Forums (for krauts)

>a few thousand communist Jews decide to attempt a coup in Germany,
>1(ONE) Hitler attempts a coup in a beer hall
He was removing his natural enemies
He was eliminating his rivals

>2,000 is the same as 1
???????????
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

Read the Myth of German Villainy by Bradberry, it certainly doesn't cover everything but it will give you a good "other side" perspective better than anyone on here can provide
If you're too lazy to read one book and would rather shitpost on here and then act like you won something then fuck off

It wasn't even 'a few thousand' it was like ten or twelve or something.

And the German working class was largely pro-socialist and revolutionary anyway. I wish the Spartacist revolution had succeeded and linked up with Bolshevik Russia.

I tortured myself with 'The Myth of German Villainy', it's retarded nonsense. Don't waste your time.

Thoes were statists, Hitler did all the heavy lifting. ;^)

Explain

>Polak defending Germans and their autism because his hatred for Jews is stronger

>AFAIK anti-Semitism was more of an European than a German thing
ftfy

It didn't help that most of the lead Bolsheviks in Russia were Jews and many had ties to the commies in Germany who Jews made up a large percentage of.

Assuming it's similar to the "Greatest Story Never Told" it's retarded revisionism.
I watched 1:45 of it, before I got sick of it.

What do you mean "assuming"? Did you read the book or not?

>hating commies is anti-semitic now
just kys my man all commies are subhumans

>because his hatred for Jews is stronger
maybe that is what will unify all the people of Europe

Those people are fine, Jewish tribe is not.

Simply by reading the name, as well as I just read the summary which seems to confirm my suspicions.

>As the title The Myth of German Villainy indicates, this book is about the mischaracterization of Germany as historys ultimate villain. The official story of Western Civilization in the twentieth century casts Germany as the disturber of the peace in Europe, and the cause of both World War I and World War II, though the facts dont bear that out. During both wars, fantastic atrocity stories were invented by Allied propaganda to create hatred of the German people for the purpose of bringing public opinion around to support the wars. The Holocaust propaganda which emerged after World War II further solidified this image of Germany as historys ultimate villain. But how true is this official story? Was Germany really historys ultimate villain? In this book, the author paints a different picture. He explains that Germany was not the perpetrator of World War I nor World War II, but instead, was the victim of Allied aggression in both wars. The instability wrought by World War I made the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in Russia possible, which brought world Communism into existence. Hitler and Germany recognized world Communism, with its base in the Soviet Union, as an existential threat to Western, Christian Civilization, and he dedicated himself and Germany to a death struggle against it. Far from being the disturber of European peace, Germany served as a bulwark which prevented Communist revolution from sweeping over Europe. The pity was that the United States and Britain did not see Communist Russia in the same light, ultimately with disastrous consequences for Western Civilization. The author believes that Britain and the United States joined the wrong side in the war.

German revoultion was started by german sailors you fucking idiot.

It's been a while since I read it so I don't remember every detail but it's mostly the same bullshit the Nazis themselves spewed out in the 30s and 40s

>Roosevelt and Churchill were Jewish puppets!
>the war was Poland's fault for not handing over the Danzig corridor!
>the Bolsheviks were all Jews!

One thing I do remember is the author's deliberately misleading the reader by implying Germans were being killed by Poles en masse BEFORE the war broke out, when in reality there were no massacres of ethnic Germans until the German invasion. He also regurgitates Goebbels' retarded 58,000 number for Germans killed by Poles

"The holocaust" even if it were true is not distinct nor matters at all.

>Hitler's First Class Iron Cross was recommended by Lieutenant Hugo Gutmann, a Jewish adjutant in the List Regiment.[18]
What the fuck was Hitler problem?

>some people were murdered
>some people were innocents
>THEY WERE JEEEEEWS
how is that relevant?
Its only dudtinction the fantasy has is the propaganda films and other psychological manipulations to make to think that is distinct from other murders.

Average jews are also the victims of the globalist luciferians, they provoked and later used their suffering to create Israel

In fact, other nations were jealousy of Jewish people because jews were also wealthy at the time. Germany was jealous of the Jews most severely among the other nations. That's why.

According to Sup Forums and stormfags average Jew doesn't exists and they are all involved in secret plan in taking over Evropa and killing every wh*Te man

t. jew

>the first industrialized genocide in human history is irrelevant
Oh boy

What do the globalist need Israel for then?

average jews spawn scheming jews.
the tree that give too many bad frutis must be removed

Everyone knows murder is bad, the purpose of the "holocaust" is Jewish political and economical interests, "remembering the holocaust" just means remember to give distinction and privilige to Jews.

I will remember the fire bombing of Dresden and that murdering innocent people is bad.

globalist hate Israel

>I will remember the fire bombing of Dresden

>MUH DREESSSDUN

>first industralized murder
How is that relevant?

>I will remember the fire bombing of Dresden and that murdering innocent people is bad.
>innocent
user I...

the destruction of Israel will be the trigger of WWIII, there are more or less 6 millions jews living in Israel right now, doesn't this figure sounds familiar?

All the jews I know irl are racists as fuck and more nationalist than the average french person, i don't browse pol much anymore but i'm not sure there is any consensus there

Yes, tell me what a janitor did to be industrially murdered by fire with British industrialized murdering machines.

it was a total war, people are war resources

>innocent people die in war sometimes
>what?
>I can't believe this!

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Government of Britain organized the systimatic murder of millions of innocent people.

so you didn't, fuck off then
>Roosevelt and Churchill were Jewish puppets!
Roosevelt and Churchill had heavy influence from Jewish groups, not that they were puppets or being controlled. There's a large difference, and the point was to explain some of the anti-semitism of the period, not to throw out conspiracies
>the war was Poland's fault for not handing over the Danzig corridor!
This is a contentious issue that isn't described best here, I'll agree, but there are other books that do the argument more justice
>the Bolsheviks were all Jews!
That was never claimed, don't lie. The claim is that of the top 556 leading positions in the 1920 Soviet government, 457 were held by Jews. Considering a list of names was provided, if you'd like to refute this be my guest.

>Germans were being killed by Poles en masse BEFORE the war broke out, when in reality there were no massacres of ethnic Germans until the German invasion
So ethnic Germans were massacred during the invasion, is what you're saying? At the very least there are photos of dead German civilians in Danzig and elsewhere, which corresponds to reports at the time, so unless this is also all fake (an easy claim to make with no backup) then I wouldn't throw that idea under the rug entirely.

Germany started a total war with no respect for civilians. Same as they did with bombing london in wwI.

German bombed London, Warsaw, Rotterdam first. Talk shit get hit.

nobody is innocent during a total war

Did Janitor bomb someone or kids?
How can you blame the crime of others on innocents?

...

You are using nazi logic of collectivization of a "German" race responsible for something.

>German Jewish soldiers celebrating Hanukkah during WW1.
wait i heard germans lost ww1
why were they celebrating

Dresden was the heart of the german war machine. Thoes people manufactured the bombs that were dropped all over europe. It was a sound strategic move to destroy the industrial backbone of the reich

They supported nazis so they are not innocents.

>they supported nazis
A child van support nazis?

>German bombed London, Warsaw, Rotterdam

And nothing of value was lost.

Hitler Youth supported nazis. :)

Get it through your skull, those people weren't targets, just collateral damage that the German government brough on themselves

Because germans themselves are notorious schemers and backstabbers. (See: Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, sending Lenin to destabilise Russia, etc.) After losing the war they started projecting their own faults to the jews.

They were targeted to be murdered, murder of millions of innocent women and children, I can never support, sorry.

Conflict, murder and violence is never the answer.

>millions
Never forget 600000000000000 germans :(((((((((

Yeah and the partly jewish led spartacist uprising and bavarian soviet republic were against other socialists revolutionaries.

Germany made the biggest mistake in the world from ww2. Germany did not use smart people in the world, but killed them all. This is really stupid.

I remember the millions of innocent women and children murdered by the warmongering imperialist french, soviets, usa, and british government.

Them being German has no relevance.

Germany started the war, they had it coming.

Haha you just outed yourself as just another revisionist

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DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

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You support the murder of millions of innocent people.

he was a art college dropout who got hooked up on Sup Forums memes

>So ethnic Germans were massacred during the invasion, is what you're saying?

Here's what he says.

> For several months before Germany’s invasion of Poland, ethnic Poles, protected by the Polish Army, launched a reign of terror against German nationals living within the Polish Corridor. It is estimated that some 58,000 German nationals were killed during this period by marauding mobs, encouraged by the Polish government. Hitler
became increasingly distressed about it and said to the British Ambassador Sir Neville Henderson on August 25, 1939: “Poland’s provocations have become intolerable.”Typical of these massacres was that which occurred in the German town of Bromberg, in the Polish Corridor.

His attempt to mislead the reader into thinking that the Bromberg Massacre was a catalyst for the war (which not even the Nazis claimed), when in fact it happened after the war had begun (as Goebbels himself acknowledges in 'Polish Atrocities against the German minority in Poland', where the author is getting all of this bullshit) is just blatant lying. I'm not an expert on 20th century European history so I can't answer every claim of his, but the fact that he's willing to so brazenly obfuscate the truth to push his narrative makes it pretty hard for me to believe anything else he says.

>That was never claimed, don't lie. The claim is that of the top 556 leading positions in the 1920 Soviet government, 457 were held by Jews. Considering a list of names was provided, if you'd like to refute this be my guest.

I'm trying to track down an independent list of the first Soviet All-Russian Executive Committee without a lot of luck. Even if I do it's going to be difficult affirming which of these people was and wasn't a Jew.

So how should the Allies have conducted the war?

Not through terrorist bombings, fighting the German army then imprisoning the nazi leaders, not that I care, everyone from that time is dead.

A single ally terrorist bomb systimatically murdered more than 9/11 and all terrorist murders in history.

Read up on the november revolution in 1918
Commies tried to take over
Literally all communist leaders were jewish
They were pushing for the destruction of everything that had grown in germany

>Hitler
Drug addict, fucked his own niece, was a NEET who lived in a Vienna flophouse pre-WWI and may have been a male prostitute during that time.
>Roehm
Fat faggot who loved burly men and BDSM.
>Goering
Obese pillhead who lived in a mansion decorated with stolen artwork and engaged in obscene orgies
>Dirlewanger
Pedophile, led a battalion of Gypsies, POWs, mental patients, and convicted criminals on the Eastern Front who engaged in some of the worst atrocities of the war.
>Himmler
Ex-chicken farmer, neopagan wewuzzist occultist and admirer of Islam.
>Heydrich
Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy
>Goebbels
Physically deformed and sickly, also a manlet
>Kaltenbrunner
Serial adulterer.
>Streicher
Major sexual deviant obsessed with the fear of Aryan women being contaminated by Jewish semen, was instrumental in lobbying for laws forbidding miscegenation between the races.

It varied by country. Some places had little problem with anti-Semitism, other places, especially Eastern Europe, it was endemic.

>problem anti semitism
That is your opinion.

>In fact, other nations were jealousy of Jewish people because jews were also wealthy at the time
Most legal restrictions on Jews in Europe were lifted by the middle of the 19th century. At this point, the Jewish domination of white collar fields such as finance, law, and medicine exploded and it created a lot of resentment.

Anti semitism is a solution not a problem.

Speak ye any English?

He's an underage Sup Forumstard. Don't give him (Yous).

There is nothing objectively bad about anti semitism.

The particularly sad thing about the Holocaust is that the Nazis didn't even get the people they were looking for. All the evul Jewish bankers they railed against weren't among those who went in the gas chambers and most Jews who had the means to do so fled from Germany before the war. Not a single Rothschild went to Auschwitz. Instead the vast majority of the victims were hapless ultra-Orthodox Jews in a Ukrainian shtel who never did anything to anyone.

LOL it's like /r9k/ formed a political party.

>im speaking out of my ass
Even if there were any evidence for some murders by the nazis, I don't need to remember "Jews" and "holocaust", I know murdering leads to murder and murder is bad.

There is not a single reason for tge existence of tge prevalence of tge holocaust narrative only exists for Jewish political ans ecobomical dominance.

There is no dustinction in the murders of the "Jews" if it occurred and murders of anyone and anything in history, if murders were on innocents then tbats tge very definition of murder and "remember innocents dead due to X" is meaningless, all murders are on innocents.

There is no distinction whatsoever, and if you didn't label them Jews it would just be whatever.

It's important to distinguish between "old" and "new" anti-Semitism. Old anti-Semitism was mostly religious and superstitious and was rooted in the belief that the Jews had killed Jesus. New anti-Semitism grew out of the scientific racism of the 19th century and it had a socialistic element to it in that it portrayed Jews as an exploiter class taking advantage of the proletarian European man.

>the absolute state of american posters

Prior to the 19th century, most Jews lived in shtetls and were isolated from mainstream society. Their communities were something like the Amish--everyone was devoutly religious, followed strict lifestyle rules, and kept to themselves.

When legal restrictions started to be removed in the 19th century, many Jews started to abandon their traditional lifestyles for being anachronistic and superstitious. Quite a lot of them were attracted to socialism and other fashionable ideas of the day as it was seen as a way out of the shtetl life into modernity. From this, Zionism was born as an attempt at creating a modern, secular Jewish identity that also had a strong socialist bent to it.

In the poor regions of Eastern Europe, these changes didn't have much effect and impoverished shtetl communities continued to exist until they were obliterated in the Holocaust.

So is this the designated Sup Forumstard containment thread or what?

You are all uninformed brainlets unfortunately.
Jews had lived in Germany for hundreds of years, everyone knows that. In the course of the enlightenment and later the rise of nationalism there had been efforts by the German Jews to Germanize themselves and give up their Jewish identity. That's the kind of people you see in these pictures, mostly. They weren't all accepted but many of them who made a genuine effort succeeded.

In the late 19th century there was a wave of progroms in Tsarist Russia against the Jews. As a result, many of them fled to the West, especially to Germany. In German they were called Ostjuden, Eastern Jews,, and they were hated alike by Germans who saw them as the stereotypic digusting shtl-schemers and the German Jews who saw them .. just like that. They were basically embarassed by them and their shitty culture. These Eastern Jews were very big into communist and socialist movements and wanted to topple the Tsar, and all monarchies in general. That's where so many of the revolutionaries both in Germany and in Russia and all of Eastern Europe came from and in the chaos of the afterwar period they started all kinds of shit, leading to increased antisemitism.

When the Nazis took over they didn't attempt to distinguish between them. Himmler actually mentions how difficult it was in Germany to enact certain policies against Jews because so many had no problems acting against Eastern Jews but then didn't feel the same about Germanized Jews and were relucant about killing them.