Do you think a return to fascism is plausible within our lifetimes?

Do you think a return to fascism is plausible within our lifetimes?

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Yes the beginnings of Fascism are already brewing. Not too long now.

yes

praise kek

no, people are smarter now than 70 years ago

Nazism=/=fascism

yes, but it is going to be called differently

If David Duke can get into the senate then this could signal a chance in the world.

There will be something.

Return?

Yes, if we believe!

>waa not real fascism
literally same as commies

Did you say Trump?

any meme is possible

yea why would you want it?

Jew here. Maybe this time against Muslims please?

Why do you think fascism is not smart mate?

Do you really want to continue living in today's degenerate world?

- Where the wealth is owned by a small elite, and the rest are made to slave away in office cages?
- Where overt displays of masculinity and femininity (natural human sexuality) are discouraged?
- Where having a family is becoming less and less possible due to womens' lib?
- Where immigrants are being imported as cheap labour for the elite, who then outbreed us and will eventually replace us?

What is the point of living in such a world? If you cannot have a family there is no point to anything. Procreation is the function of every single organism on the planet, and we are being denied it

I think fascism is already here user. You just fail to see it.

First i'd say not to use a National Socialist symbol for fascism, secondly yes, it will come back

Okay so when do you think it will come back?

Nazism is a form of fascism, anons

Yes and it will happen.

Nature is the biggest fascist there is.

Grossly overestimating the average person's intelligence user

>BEING THIS RETARDED

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If someone run on a modern version of it yes. If you harp on about white nationalism then your going to be demonized but if you explained the evils of globalism and usury and that nationalism includes everyone from within the nation then you could stand a pretty good chance

I deathly hope so. Can't wait for Whites to be one big family again, and the fucking Satanic parasites who want to fucking lodge themselves among us, disrupt our family, sow discord among our racial brethren, and fucking deceive and abuse our women are utterly fucking destroyed and decimated, shamed and disgraced, and then receive everlasting fucking eternal torment forever and ever with no rest day or night. Those same fucking parasites who would lie about our history and then turn around and spite us and call us a rootless, identityless, atheistic, materialistic race with no hope for the future and no destiny but our own fucking destruction and defamation.

Not under that term, but definitely in its function.

m8 nobody in the world knows who David Duke is, and if CNN says he is literally Hitlerino, everybody will swallow that

>If you harp on about white nationalism then your going to be demonized but if you explained the evils of globalism and usury and that nationalism includes everyone from within the nation then you could stand a pretty good chance

Very true

I guess this is what UKIP, FN, AfD, FPÖ, PVV, SD and others are doing right now

fascism is not the same as nazism, you retard.

Indeed, but I think UKIP are more capitalist than they let on.Nigel wanting to "have a discussion" on the privatization of the NHS and cosying up to Newt Gingrich and the like worries me. Hitler was authoritarian left after all

I'd rate the probabililty of returning to fascism as about three fiddy

It will return, no doubt about it. They may use the term "Nationalism" or something similar to describe it but it's function will be the same. We just need a leader to guide us toward it and that leader is amongst us now.

Nazism is a type of fascism as I've already said

For fuck's sake they're not going to form a government mate, the only reason we are voting for them is to close the bloody borders and everybody knows that

If UKIP actually get close to power they will have to form policies on other things

Until then, they are essentially just a pressure group for British sovereignty and the reduction of immigration. And the more we vote for them, the more that the Tories will have to make concessions on those points.

Do you really think government intervention will fix that and not just accelerate our social decay?

Hitler was dead wrong about how to handle the economy long term.

His recovery was marvelous, but just read the 25 point NSDAP plan. The economic planning is idiotic. It's right out if a Marx diary, which make it so ironic that Hitler hated Bolsheviks.

Hitler was right about racial identity and white superiority. He came to power with massive depressions in capitalistic economies so it's at least understandable that he was opposed to capitalism, but he was still wrong about how to handle the market.

Take Hitler's racial unity for whites + the founding fathers' love of liberty and you have the perfect combo. Just protect those borders and don't let any non white males vote.

For an ethnonationalist state to arise in europe you'd pretty much need at least 50% of the pop on side. France is 80% white, you would need just over 60% of white french people to get this going in 2016. Give it ten years and you'll need 70% and so on. The chances of that high percentage of the population voting in one way and not being cucks is fucking crazy especially in Western Europe. I'd love it to happen boys but with the dilution of our nations it becomes less likely every year

I think people were smarter back then to be honest, these days we just have vegetables being force-fed bullshit through the radio, TV and internet.

Back then, people decided for what they believed in without being bombarded with bullshit faggotry that is as irrelevant as it was worthless on a daily basis.

So basically, Facism won't ever rise. Too much dogma and Jewish propaganda fresh in everyones minds. Each generation is getting weaker and more dependent on the media and welfare teat to have any fucking willpower to stand up and fight anyway.

For every one "Nazi" that steps up, five more "Heroes" will step up as well to snub it.

That, or it'll be formed by a minority that manages to get under the radar with it because of how the world is overly fucking tolerant of those fucks, imagine that, BLM organises into the next Nazi Party, lefties stonewall so they don't get stopped, people don't act until its too late. What a shitty prospect.

Both of you are going to get the oven treatment.

>nazism is a form of fascism

Free market eugenics/sperm trading is the future of the human race.

There has never been a better time to wrest control from the old parties. Someone needs to take advantage of this, If not UKIP then someone else needs to step up

im a #dukenuke now

Stormfags please go. Sup Forums is a libertarian board.

Brexit happened because the Tories had to make a concession to UKIP voters

I have faith

I still disagree with usury, its immoral. Fucking jews

>Falling for the libertarian meme

Fash party should just promise to wipe out the mortgages of all subjects and deport any non Europeans. Call it a fresh start or a reset. Would be horrific at first but there's no point taking political power if you can't abolish debt slavery

Libertarianism sucks balls

Libertarinaism is basically a gentle nonthreatening version of white identitarianism

This, though it would be a hell of a fight with the banks

Are there alternatives to Wiki? I feel they are too much owned by the kikes and I cant rely on the information given there.

Voluntary exchange is so immoral, I know. I mean, if some guy wants a £1000 to buy a car then I sure as heck won't give him the money on the condition that he pays me more later, that would be disgusting. In fact I wouldn't give him anything since there's no reason for me to provide him with the £1000 because my morals dictate that I can't profit from the exchange, but if I can't profit then there's no reason for me to risk my money, which means that the guy won't be able to afford the car --and everyone is happy, you know.
What we need is a fuhrer, a boss nigger, to use violent force on those who dare to participate in voluntary exchange. People shouldn't be allowed to take out loans; they should be forced to continue selling their labour until they can afford the new car or new house the proper, moral way.

History has a horrible propensity towards repeating itself so it's entirely possible. And then we'll look up and realize that we've basically done what Iran did but with a different religion as the basis and boy will our faces be red.

It is

No I agree with you there, very much so. But at the moment we all know why they're popular and why people are voting for them - immigrants. And British sovereignty.

Yes it would be good if they presented a more coherent view of what else they would institute. In fact I think I've heard better and more coherent ideas from the AfD concerning how they would help German citizens.

But anyway, UKIP are currently quite far from becoming the biggest party in parliament aren't they. At the moment immigration and sovereignty are the issues they need to rally around since those are the issues that people care about. Those are the issues that will get them more support, a greater share of the vote, more council seats, and hopefully by-elections and MPs.

I don't think another party entering the fray right now would be so good because it would split the vote - look at the case with the BNP, some people voted for them, but they were too extreme and unpopular, so didn't get anywhere.

UKIP currently have the most legitimacy, and they currently poll third behind the Tories and Labour. They're the best chance we have right now. But also, their rise encourages the right-wing of the Tory party to make themselves heard more which is a good thing.

>Nazism is a type of fascism as I've already said
ideologically, yes, but in practice it has nothing in common.

If I want information on a controversial subject (e.g. gamergate) then Encyclopedia Dramatica is a good source. Yes obviously it's written in a jovial matter but they post truth, with sources.

the sjw's push for fascism. they want to remove freedom of speech. they want to limit options in elections and entertainment

they dont get that even if they manage to implement restrictions their opposition will seize the opportunity to apply the new restrictions to the sjw's .

all female cast thats sexist. no whites thats racist. saying blacks cant be racist is racist because its bias based on race. text book definitions exist to debunk the sjw faggotry

>History has a horrible propensity towards repeating itself so it's entirely possible.
No it doesn't. Read books

Not personal no, but state owned banks could. Very true, It annoys me that we haven't heard anything from them in what seems ages and the fact that all the UKIP leadership that is left is piss poor. I genuinely want someone to redpill the nation on globalism and zionism. That and someone with a boss symbol like the BuFs

I just checled Encyclopedia Dramatica about jews...

"Jews are a race of Sociopaths descended long ago from an Alien species of extraterrestrial reptilian parasites who tried to control and interbreed with us Free humans in their quest for universal domination. These anti-humans in their bid to control us true homo Sapiens created the brainwashing cult called "Judaism", also known as "The Worship of Money" and "Ritual Infant Sacrifice", and the precursor of both Christianity and Islam, the two biggest anti-intellectual and anti-homo religious cancers chaining Mankind to the Dark Ages. Some famous Jews include: everyone who works on the banks, in television, in movies, in radio and in print media."

Needless to say, this site is gold :D Thanks

No, I don't think it's very realistic in an information age with the internet etc.
Yes, we could get fascist movements such as SJWs going mainstream and being memed by tumblerites the same way we meme them, and maybe some laws that will change the beliefs of some people, but we will never dig deep into the ideology and morality that people really have, which is what fascism requires.

To answer your question not really. Also remember fascism is a lot about a lot of propaganda, and you can't really use propaganda as efficiently as you could 70 years ago due to the internet and things being shared really easily internationally with just one fucking leak.

Not to say propaganda is a bad thing - I think it's good (if it's dumb but works it ain't dumb) because it inspires people, but most propaganda is exaggerated bullshit to inspire the plebs. And the slightly smarter than the average pleb will of course try to be "above" those stupid traditionalist fascists because it's "just not logical" without looking at what it does.

Just like /r/atheism and plebbitors. You can't find one fucking conservative atheist on Plebbit because they're all "enlightened" and "above" religion. They can't look at what religion does to society, and the positive aspects, because all they see are talking snakes, not what it really does.

>TL;DR: No, because people have easy access to the internet which can easily "disprove" a lot of propaganda which is one of the staples in fascism

Yes, but it will be inversed. it will be left wing fascism this time.

No, absolutely not.

Answer me this

Why does everyone single fucking neo-nazi (expect for Golden Dawn) political group use the swastika from Nazi Germany instead of making their own symbol?

I'd like to continue, this is why I am a libertarian, not a fascist.
Because libertarianism punishes the weak, much like fascism, but it's more realistic to implement in modern day society.
That said I am still conservative at heart, but that utopia will not happen without a major chaotic event that will allow us to re-evaluate our moral values and typical "western" beliefs (such as freedom and equality; despite what SJWs tell you the west world are behind that, not poor dindus asking for gibs me dat. It's European culture to care for the weak and allow freedom, it comes from Christianity and the American and French revolutions)

I have no idea and its retarded. If you ever want people to take you seriously you should probably just drop the swastika, not matter how much you appreciate what it stands for

Yes. We're really just electoral/tax reform away from fascism in a few left countries. I don't mind national socialism so long as the poor do not get to decide who governs us.

You forgot the British natsoc party with the lightning bolt

Most actually make their own shitty symbols that look like cartoon villain shit.
Look at NMR/SMR (Nordiska Motståndarrörelsen). It looks like absolute shit. I could make something better in less than a day by looking at different concepts and ancient Nordic symbols.

Seriously for fucks sake you stormweenies - especially the ones in Sweden - make a better fucking symbol. Why not use a raven? It reflects Nordic culture and has history in ancient Nordic mythology.

Then again modern day neo-nazis are absolutely worthless - it is to no surprise nobody listens to them. They are only violent animals who want a reason to fight. You want to change something? Work hard and influence others to do your will instead. Oh wait, neo-nazis don't work hard and don't have any ambitions outside of fighting.

Anyways they should fix a new fucking logo, just take the raven and make really sharp edges to give off a "stark" symbol much like the swastika, baka.

Jews advocate the destruction of nations in favor of a global market economy

Surprise surprise! Jews just happen to have the highest IQ levels, and thus free markets allow them to easily dominate society and rise to positions of influence they never had access to before

As a tiny minority who sees themselves as an out-group, this is the perfect situation
But for someone who actually has a nation to call home, why would we want this?

I can't forget what I don't know exist

>the fact that all the UKIP leadership that is left is piss poor

I thought Steven Woolfe was cool but now he's not allowed to run for the leadership which is just bollocks

I don't know if he's "anti-globalism" per se but he's a working class lad dun good and generally doesn't like elites I think.

It's a good site

It's a powerful, emotive symbol, and everybody knows what it means

That is not true at all.

Maybe. First we need the general public to understand that "fascis" doesn't mean "nazi"

Libertarianism, which is really just an extreme unelectable version classical liberalism, has lead us to the situation we're in right now. I inheritied a $7.1m property and I received ~$460k in dividends and interest last year just by parking my great-great-grandfathers nest egg in one of the safest funds possible. My neighbour makes $40m/yr assuming he puts his $1.2b stolen Chinese fortune in government bonds.

Explain how this system is sustainable. Right now people blame CEO's but one day people will clue in about the ruling capitalist class. I would rather we sort our shit out before that happens. Libertarianism rewards and highly favours dishonesty, subversion, and nepotism.

1) read a history book
2) learn the definition of fascism
3) never use swastica when you are talking about fascism

If you don't want to read a book, ask Italy what fascism is

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I like Steven Woolfe as well and thought he was by far the best choice, when you lead a party like UKIP you need a strong speaker and he is definitely that, I've never even heard of whose left and they could fall apart on that issue alone.
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National socialism will probably have to come from the leftists, as it did in Germany.

No.You fags can keep dreaming, though.

you haven't used ED before? wew you have some good reading to do. i thought most anons used it. it's very entertaining to look anything up and get the lowdown

I love seeing my OC being posted around on the internet. Feels good mane