How would you fix the EU Sup Forums?

How would you fix the EU Sup Forums?

>hard mode: without leaving it or breaking it up

How would you fix a house of paper built on sand?

>hard mode: without actually fixing it

Kick out all shitskins, liberals, SJWs and feminists

One way ticket to Syria, no parachute

Without breaking it up? Keep the EU, get rid of the EURO.

By letting the Anglos invade and kill all. The Sand niggars and aryans!

Would going back to 28 different currencies not be a bit of a pain in the arse?

1) Seal borders, federate. 2) Cut government. 3) Give more rights.

Everyone go home, /thread.

Nukes

>1) Seal borders, federate.

Would you see yourself as pro-EU/federalist?

>2) Cut government.

What would you cut? You mean national government or EU-level government?

>3) Give more rights.

What kind of rights? Would you add to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights/ECHR or create something new?

By putting an Anglo in charge

Make it one state.
Give power to Poles and Hungarians for a time necessary to deal with "migrant" problem.
Unify army and make citizenship only available for someone after military service.
Would you like to know more?

1. stop the common currency nonsense
2. enforce external borders and get rid of illegals
3. give e.parliament the right to propose legislation

>Would you see yourself as pro-EU/federalist?

Yes.

>What would you cut? You mean national government or EU-level government?

National, there should be more privatization and cutting welfare.

>What kind of rights? Would you add to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights/ECHR or create something new?

More like personal rights and freedom from regulation. Human rights agencies are good but can be dynastic and hamper productivity.

Interesting, so you're a pretty hardcore liberal/libertarian then.

The funny thing I've noticed about the EU is that it's painfully centrist - meaning that both liberals and socialists hate it for being too socialist or neo-liberal. It's kind of hard for the EU to "win" the hearts and minds of a lot of people without picking a side.

Is there any way you would support a common currency or are you against the idea of it at a fundamental level?

Pretty much on a fundamental level, because it's dysfunctional without fiscal policy (which the EU does not - and will not - have, unless it becomes a federation).

Having to use someone else's currency as a country is the monetary equivalent of watching somebody fuck your wife.

1. Abolish most (if not all) bureaucratic aspects.
2. Abolish common currency
3. Abolish external trade tariffs
4. Secure the external border, throw out """refugees""" to Saudi Arabia
5. Switch to confederacy, give eu parliament actual legislative power.

Though probably it won't be the EU anymore.

>How would you fix the EU Sup Forums?
This is probably the only serious response you will get on here, the rest of the people on here don't want to think about it in real world terms.

1. Restructure the institutions. Either just keep the parlament or just the council. It actually would be cost effective to kill the parliament.

2. 50% of the time of the commission needs to go into ideas how to remove regulation and make regulation easier to comply.

3. create a website on which every single EU law and regulation and all technical implementation is published - provision by provision, so no "here is a 300 page document, deal with it", but every single provision is separately put on there wikipedia style with commentary explaining what it relates to.

4. Stop the gibmees from strong states (Germany, Denmark, Austria, Sweden, the Netherlands etc.) to the poor states (Poland, Hungary, Romania, Greece).

5. Repatriate every single authority which states can do themselves to the states, including agriculture subsidies.

Pax Europaea.

The EU sucks because it is has always been, at its core, a politically left wing project. The right has since the beginning been mostly concerned with European international trade or politics on a purely national level.

But there is no reason why the EU has to be left wing. It could also be a right wing project. The Third Reich was a sort of proto-EU.

What is needed is a Right Wing EU political party that is cross national. The European people could elect MEP's across every EU state but have a unified single policy and goal.

The main goal should be the limitation of citizenship only to present EU citizens and their children. With each country working together, they can focus their efforts on securing their outside borders with Asia and Africa. Regular naval patrols in the Aegean and the Mediterranean Sea, and each nation should contribute equally to this effort. A boat turn back policy should also be adopted.

In addition, illegal migrants should not be able to vote, receive state handouts or use state services, nor should their children be entitled. There should be no birthright citizenship, and the children of illegal migrants should also be considered illegal.

Other goals should be:

The establishment of a single EU armed forces.

The promotion of European history and culture.

And state-funded education in STEM subjects for all students.

>1. Abolish most (if not all) bureaucratic aspects.
You need some part of the bureaucracy, for instance for certain free market regulatory elements which were previously in the domain of the 28 states. E.g. regulating telecom companies, or car standards, or merger control or capital markets control or banking control etc. Not all oversight is bad, it gets bad if it is too burdensome and not relevant.

>2. Abolish common currency
No. The Euro is actually a good thing. Weak and corrupt government don't like it, because it puts pressure on them to reform and puts pressure on trade unions to agree to wage cuts, rather than raises. If a country has its own currency, it is very easy to just devalue the currency instead of actuall reforming.

>3. Abolish external trade tariffs
Already abolished. The EU lives with WTO rules which basically excludes most tariffs, except for agriculture. However, the EU should actually put tariffs on dumping products such as Chinese steel and other products.

>4. Secure the external border, throw out """refugees""" to Saudi Arabia
YES. But guess what, the EU doesn't currently even have the authority to police the external borders. That authority is only in the hands of the respective states.

>5. Switch to confederacy, give eu parliament actual legislative power.
Maybe. Alternatively, you can actually kill the parliament and thus reduce costs.

>Though probably it won't be the EU anymore.

Yeah, not really.

I'm asking the question in this way (i.e. without breaking the EU up) to get some different answers out of Sup Forums than the usual hurr durr globalism muh sovereignty crap. I'm bored to tears with that.

>1.

I'd prefer to have the Parliament and Commission as a sort of lower and upper house for the EU. Make the Commission directly-elected maybe as well to reduce worries of democratic deficit. The Council kinda annoys me tbqh, it way too often gets used to push an agenda that suits one or two of the most powerful Member States than all of us together.

>2.

I have sympathy with this point of view, but I can't help but feel that very politician that proposes "removing red tape" just wants to do away with necessary regulation altogether and/or is being lobbied heavily by vested interests.

I suppose I'm more in favour of simplifying things.

>3.
>4.

Agree totally. I remember we used to do impressions of Angela Merkel wagging finger, lecturing us with "you haf to tighten ze belt!" while telling us to basically cut our entire government expenditure during the recession. There was a lot of resentment at the time.

>5.

The EU is supposedly required to do this, à la the principle of subsidiarity. Maybe it could be more effective at it.

Take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.

Actually misread 4., thought you wrote "glibness" instead of "gibmees".

Wouldn't agree so much. You need some form of fiscal transfer mechanism between stronger and weaker states to make a common currency work. The method we use now - i.e. massive bailouts - it horrendously politicised and will rip the Eurozone apart if we don't find a less messy way of doing it.

Not that much, really.