Man bros I really want to convert to Christianity but I just don't think I can handle it all. I've been getting to know people for the past year but when it came time to get serious about it I just don't think I can restructure my life around it.
-confession -fasting -no more "pornographic" entertainment i.e. being on the internet ever -no masturbating -"submitting" to a spiritual father -constant pressure to have kids (I can barely not kill myself I have no place looking after a wife and child)
I thought I could trick myself into it somehow, but I can't. Is anybody else in a similar position?
Jose Green
You don't have to trick yourself into believing at all. Persevere in prayer, ask for the Lords blessing of the Holy Spirit. When you are filled with the Spirit you will saved and your life will change and you will bear fruit which is the evidence of your rebirth.
Zachary Lee
Also you shouldn't feel pressure to get married or have children. Paul the Apostle said its better to remain unmarried if it is possible for you, but it is better to be married than to burn with lust.
Dylan Morgan
>Went to religious school
Most of the female teachers didn't have kids and were liberal nuts
>No porn
Only the super religious follow that
>fasting
What are you Jewish?
>Confession
Unless you didn't commit any mortal sins it's easy and it makes you feel good afterwards.
I've met people who goto church every Sunday and take part in everything still manage to be the biggest douchbags. The most important part is being good to yourself and others.
Charles Adams
Masturbate and confess about it. The thing about masturbation in Christianity is not about repressing your sexuality, it's about self-control. And self-control is a virtue, which is building not in one day. But it is all about the true freedom — freedom to choose, whether you want to masturbate, or decide to find significant other and have sex with her, which is more about adulthood, responsibility and other similar things.
With christianity you'll become more mature eventually, so don't be afraid of the path, you are on the right way.
Levi Smith
>constant pressure to have kids The actual point is to bring people into the faith and be charitable.
> the other stuff Not being sinful is pretty damn hard. Christianity isn't supposed to be easy, and most christians mess up. But if you looking at Christianity as a bunch of work, then youre missing the point of Christianity.
And until you get the point of Christianity, then there is genuinely no reason for you to be a Christian.
Tyler Hernandez
> only the super religious don't watch porn > but don't worry about confession! Those are for mortal sins!
Pornography and masturbation are mortal sins, ya goof. Youre one of those Christmas and Easter only christians, aren't you?
Caleb Baker
>-confession >-fasting >-no more "pornographic" entertainment i.e. being on the internet ever >-no masturbating >-"submitting" to a spiritual father >-constant pressure to have kids (I can barely not kill myself I have no place looking after a wife and child)
Wut. None of that is Christian-mandate. That's cultural Christianity, like old school Catholicism. Any norm created by man can be ignored by man. God and Jesus were real, but the Bible is a very fallible man-made compilation book.
Jaxson Russell
No they're not
Isaiah Cox
a 'point' no doubt you'll be reluctant to define. Christians are probably the worst when it comes to leaving faith as such an ambiguous term as to be meaningless.
Mason Robinson
Did you adopt a Nigger child? That's now mandatory as part of Christianity.
Elijah Miller
Be protestant. You can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want and still call u one
Gabriel Jenkins
A mortal son is that which severes your relationship with God. Masturbation does this, gravely.
You didn't think that Adultery only meant sleeping with women other than your wife, did you?
The "point" is a relationship with God. Such ambiguity. Very meaningless.
Joshua Hughes
What sect do you follow?
Benjamin Ward
Do you understand that to have a relationship with anything it has to be contingent and exist in the physical world and be capable of responding. Relationship doesn't describe wishful thinking.
Tyler Bailey
Sup Forums needs to get over this very Roman-esque legalistic understanding of Christianity. The point of Christianity is to know God exists, he loves you, that he saved you from sin via Jesus, and that you're not perfect and never can be, but you should try to make amends as best you can.
People keep misinterpreting the faith, and think >IF YOU DO X, Y, OR Z, YOUR TICKET IS PUNCHED FOR AUTOMATIC HELL
That is not, at all, how it works. Yeah, you probably have to do some measure of atonement for the truly horrible things you have done, if any, but at no point is it like a button gets pressed and you're screwed from there on out. There'd be no point to Jesus if that were true, and instead of a loving God, you'd have a malevolent God.
Deep down, everyone knows the evil that they are capable of. But they're also aware of their own good. You need to dig down and bring out that good, and through allegory and instruction, the Bible can help you do that.
Jaxson Perez
> British people No surprise here.
Vivat Iesus
Adrian Sanders
If you actually want to become serious with the rules and shit, you might want to consider Islam instead of Christianity.
Kayden Wood
You can do those good moral things without believing in god. I follow Christian morals but I don't actually believe in God. I view Jesus and biblical stories as life lessons and guidelines.
Hunter Walker
>this atheist is likely a better christian than probably half of the christians on Sup Forums
Jeremiah Murphy
28“Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it? 29For if you lay the foundation and are not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule you, 30saying, ‘This person began to build and wasn’t able to finish.’
31“Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. 33In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.
Luke 14
I'm glad you know what's the right Church tho. Come home Catholic brother. Sin clouds the mind & virtue sets a man free.
Luke Gonzalez
Hello Ahmed. Gtfo of my country.
Liam Green
true we did break off from centuries of jewish and moorish control to establish the modern world. We also revived the traditions of reason and logic that established some of the greatest empires known to man.
Joseph Foster
> British people still think they established the modern world
I love your delusions.
Oliver Taylor
>Another atheist thinking they can follow "Christian morals" without the most important part: Faith If you're atheist then you don't follow any of our morals.
Samuel Young
I want to be Christian too but I just can't delude myself enough to believe in the all powerful Sky Father unfortunately.
Christopher Rodriguez
>he thinks he's a good person
You probably have low standards. Look up what God considers His standards to be and then try to judge yourself by them. His minimum is obviously perfection, but look up what He has to say on specific sins and reflect on if you've committed them. None of us are good people. You don't need God to be a good person. You need God to remind you how evil you are. Once you acknowledge that then you can begin trying to become better.
Pride is a terrible sin.
Gabriel Brooks
Worship in yer own way, brother
Lincoln Walker
>I just don't think I can restructure my life around it. it takes years, decades, and ultimately your entire life to reform yourself to the Truth >-confession >-fasting these are spiritual gifts from God >-no more "pornographic" entertainment i.e. being on the internet ever You don't have to give up the internet to stop watching porn. First of all, it's not practical to give up the internet; second, use self-control, do whatever you can to NOT watch porn >-no masturbating masturbation is a trap; it's wrong >-"submitting" to a spiritual father not sure i entirely understand your point on this one >-constant pressure to have kids (I can barely not kill myself I have no place looking after a wife and child) you shouldn't have kids; maybe someday, but not now. Maybe look into the religious life eventually, but for now, just try to get right with God >I thought I could trick myself into it somehow, but I can't. Is anybody else in a similar position? You don't need to "trick" yourself; it is the Truth... I just converted earlier this year; it's hard at times, and i'm not perfect, but it gets better each week
