While we have been arguing over China's efforts to seize the South China Sea, its threats to Vietnam, the Philippines and Vietnam, and the potential for WW3 over it all, nobody has paid attention to Singapore.
Pic related.
Singapore is an Island city state of 5.5 million people (113th in the world). Its GDP however is 36th in the world at 308 Billion dollars. They have poured this massive surplus into the construction of what is arguably the most powerful battle fleet in Southeast Asia.
Not huge on paper compared to say, the US fleet, but all of those warships are modern, with modern weapons, equipment, and are all deployable at a moment a notice.
Only Japan has a better fleet in Asia. Somehow I don't think Singapore has built up such a huge combat capability for show.
They probably feel more threatened by Chinese expansion than any other. It's not exactly a surprise.
Tyler Thompson
I fucking hate my politicians, you would think that with Indonesia north of us we would be pouring a shit load into the navy, but nope we just got a bunch of shitty subs that can't even be repaired, a few destroyers here and their, and missile cruisers that don't have missiles.
Bravo Singapore for actually having a navy.
Matthew Nelson
China? Its owned by mainlanders. Its the Malays they're worried about
Luis Nelson
Don't forget that the French company we contracted """accidentally""" leaked all the top secret plans they had for the Indian subs they're building
Gavin Thompson
>you would think that with Indonesia north of us we would be pouring a shit load into the navy We're building a whole bunch of new ships for the next three decades.
Josiah Allen
Which is something that should of been done a long time ago, control over Australia depends on control over our waters.
Austin Sanders
I'm sure their worried about the Malay's too, but Malaysia has no real naval capability. The amount of money they have spent on their Navy is obscene relative to their size. Its a fleet designed to fight a major naval power that Malaysia simply is not.
This is something I don't understand about Aussies. You are essentially an Island nation with small population relative to your nearest potential threats. A Navy is essential to your national defense. It simply cannot suck balls. But Australia's navy sucks balls.
Jaxson Diaz
Meanwhile
Charles Martin
>tfw our Navy is the second largest Airforce in the world, second only to our own Airforce.
Adrian Gutierrez
Singapore has clearly calculated it cannot depend on that pic for the defense of its strategic interests and sovereignty.
You could maybe argue that if they simply had the corvettes and attack ships. But the attack Submarines and more importantly, the marine assault ships are not defensive weapons. They are offensive weapons designed to seize control of enemy naval territory.
In fact, the entire defense organization of Singapore's military is offensive in nature. The stealth frigates they have purchased from France are designed to escort their military which is trained in offensive marine assaults.
This is a major update from their prior defense posture in the 1980's that had none of this capability.
Colton Watson
>Somehow I don't think Singapore has built up such a huge combat capability for show.
HAH. Since when does my country ever mattered
Dylan Scott
I guess you guys are preparing for the eventual 2nd British Empire.
Time to replace that disgusting crescent off your flag and replace it with the Union Jack.
Gavin Jones
Give me a brief rundown on your country. And it's women.
Currently trying to impress a Singaporean.
Camden Morris
I mean Malays the race, so forces arriving from Indonesia as well
Joshua Evans
fucking hell what is English
*time to take that disgusting crescent of your flag
Parker Nelson
>All those billions of tax dollars wasted on useless boats and planes when they could have been used to cure cancer, go to Mars or give every neet free college >"B...but at least we have a big ocean dick!"
American priorities everyone.
Ayden Perry
Singapore will matter a great deal if China tries to seize the South China Sea outright. If they decide to get it down with the Philippines and Vietnam, the chips will go one of three ways. China seizes the essential trade routes outright, the US intervenes in support of the Flips, or Singapore and Indonesia deploy their fleets to halt the Chinese incursion.
China simply seizing the territory in violation of international law is a non starter. If the US intervenes though, we risk great power war. Which means war by proxy. And that means Singapore, and its Navy would be central to pushing China back.
More importantly, Singapore actually has the ability of doing this when supported by attack aircraft from the Philippines and Indonesia.
Aaron Hill
nah fuck you Country is pretty okay, but we are a bit taken back by our pm fainting and the death of our ex-president
Easton James
wow do you even read the papers, we want to have good relations with both China and the US
Isaiah Martin
The joint effort between malaysia and indonesia radar intel concluded that the plane went into a stargate You (namely Singapore) do not want to see what happens if we invest in weaponry/ naval force
Nathaniel Torres
>China >US Pick one, don't do what we are doing.
Tyler Perry
Got any nukes?
Oliver King
Not for me to decide, the govt. is responsible
Kayden Smith
I do. And this is definitely true. But to be fair, the US wants good relations with China as well.
I'm actually curious what an actual Singaporean thinks of the whole South China Sea mess. Technically you have no dispute in the mess, but the entire thing threatens to plunge your entire region into war.
How does Singapore view the dispute between China and the Philippines?
Andrew Anderson
go away racist bitch
we don't do jack shit we just want the status quo to remain. Singaporeans don't care much about foreign affairs since it doesnt affect our livelihood directly
Liam Wright
> 2nd in size only to US Air Force
And that actually really pisses off the US Navy.
Leo Martinez
You really think that? I mean, Singapore is Southeast Asia's trade node. Your entire bread butter is foreign affairs. And if China puts the Gauntlet down on the Philippines, the Status Quo will get BTFO.
Consider, the Court of Arbitration has stated that China's 9 dash line has no merit, but that is actively in violation of international by occupying the sovereign territory of the Philippines. and committing unlawful environment damage in the process of its illegal military occupation.
The Status Quo is already coming undone.
Landon Cooper
My god. I've never seen then react like this before.
Oliver Ward
Singapore has always waved its dick as a result of an insecurity complex from the Britbongs fucking up their defense in WW2. It doesn't help they're surrounded by the largest population of Muslims in the world.
Jason Gomez
this is the worst post
resources are finite and different powerful entities compete for them. sometimes by force or threat of force. this is how things are in nature, and have been for the history of humans. the "big ocean dick" secures resources for the US primarily and the west secondarily. you live a comfortable life in part to that "big ocean dick"
your post is the worst post.
Tyler Morris
We may have found what triggers the Aussie. Their boats.
Mason Ward
This. Just leave us alone. We got ASEAN, ASEAN Plus Three, ASEAN Plus Six
Kayden Garcia
Half of Asean wants to fuck China's shit up, the other half wants to suck China's cock.
And then there is Singapore. Face it bros. You guys are the wildcard.
Jayden Taylor
we are more worried with our domestic economy at the moment, rising cost of living doesn't bode well with us. Singies see the waters as Philippine's but know China will still not care anyways, either way we are not claiming the disputed waters and so we do not care.
Parker Anderson
Probably because while the rest of ASEAN is a bunch of monkeys, Singapore is making money off of everyone.
Eli Robinson
China have enough domestic problems already. South East Sea is a big playground where everyone shows off but there wont be any fight.
Thomas Nguyen
Come on man, give us time to breath, no more conflict. Just got independent on '45, truly free on '98 and just start developing, still lot corruptions and nepotism to crush.
John Ward
>Somehow I don't think Singapore has built up such a huge combat capability for show.
It's for self defense, and like everything in singapore, it's done properly
Christian Butler
fuck off racist shit
Do you even racial harmony
Brayden Reyes
Nice attempt to justify waving your wave dick around in everyone's faces and stealing their oil.
Resources wouldn't be finite anymore if you tried building spaceships instead of water ones. But of course that's too hard when you can just do the above.
Grayson Rivera
Singapore is weak. They should fear us more than China, our friend and ally. If the US and Israel isnt backing Singapore, we the Malays would have attacked the island. Damn if Singapore didnt pull out from 1963 agreement we should have won it a long time ago.
Bentley Bailey
At least we can stop the boats.
You won't be using your navy at all once Hilldog takes power
Noah Clark
Don't even pretend Singaporeans aren't looking down on every other SEA nation and laughing
Eli Murphy
The undermining of the international order China is doing in those waters is not going to stay calm for long.
I posit those domestic problems are driving China's aggression. The Party wants to show that its in control and undoing China's humiliation in the 19th century. And since taking back the Pacific Maritime from Russia is not in the cards atm, they need to beat on Vietnam and the Philippines to show strength.
War waits for nobody. To be fair, its quite possible you guys will remain neutral. But I am giving props to your Government for building the means to defend your people in the face of the potential great power conflict that is brewing.
Brayden Sullivan
>Singaporeans aren't looking down on every other SEA nation and laughing now why would we do that.
Christopher Stewart
Singapore advantages is that it is a port and most ships and bankers go there, basically Jew haven. It has no natural resources and no nothing so Singapore is shit, the army consists of Chinese nu males and young milennials who have no combat experience. Japanese could take Singapore in a few weeks same manner in world war 2.
So in short, Singapore is overrated.
Colton King
>The undermining of the international order China is doing in those waters is not going to stay calm for long. yeah w/e
Noah Garcia
You talk shit but how big is your navy?
Lincoln Roberts
I don't understand why Malaysia and Singapore seem to hate each other.
Oliver Anderson
>one small 4 inch gun
top kek. 1910s technology.
Sebastian Nelson
Kek, malay naval and air force are better than singapore a fucking small island >american education Dont forget we have russia behind our backs
Brandon Hill
Why would we do that? Ultimately even if they are shit they are our neighbours. If they go to shit that doesn't bode well for us either
Juan Clark
they have semiconductor fabs bro
Adrian Carter
Polandball sums up why Malaysia is so salty beautifully.
Nathan Sullivan
Vietnam pretty much economically depends on China entirely. If they want to take our land by force, they can just block trading with us for a year and watch half of Vietnamese go bankrupt or starved.
Cooper Jones
I dont hate Singapore its just basic rivalry that exist since Singapore pulled out of our federation in 1965, got mad because they dont get fair share in economy
Robert Robinson
we don't hate each other, just the minority. Can't wait for the kuala lumpur/sg rail line to complete eh babi don't you have some long kang in your village to clean
John Adams
It's a good thing she'll never take office then.
Brayden Sanchez
>got mad because they dont get fair share in economy Stay mad bitch
Easton Perry
Don't worry Norway, if Russia tried to invade you the US Navy would be there to help you. You can only afford what you have because of us.
Gavin Russell
Oh, Canada
Gabriel Morris
Wait can i clean long kang at yiur place, oh wait you are a fine place, here i throw thrash no fine, hey look Singapore so lawful and shit. Fine this and that, ahh here so free even throw garbage nobody gives a shit and Im free. Fuck singapore
Austin Cook
You're literally comparing the navy of a country as big as yours, to that of a tiny red dot on a world map.
How inadequate do you have to feel?
Thomas Moore
lol 27 knots.
what a cuckboat
Jordan Adams
>implying we won't be the Switzerland of SEA
Isaac Garcia
Ten bucks say you are a Singaporean on vacation
And OP we don't give a shit. We can't diss China or the US
Eli Richardson
So can I go to your kampong and throw my shit and thrash around too?
Stay mad fucboi
Nathaniel Richardson
ONE DAY Oh it reminds me we hab oil, palm oil, car industry and shit. Yiu are just a small island and shit you weak. We arr gonna attack yiu with planes fucker. Just yiu wait. Fuck USA stay off our fight!
Easton Lewis
>Japanese
you're gonna have trouble pulling the pedo anime masturbation materials out of those semen-coated nip fingers to get them to leave the house much less march on an island where there aren't any blonde american lolis that love triple tentacle penetration
Daniel Ramirez
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Chase Jones
Fuck off, Eurocuck. And stop whaling; you guys are being dicks.
Adam Carter
where do you land the f-16??? is the runway underwater or something?
Individually Commonwealth nations Naval power isn't great but collectively? I think we could beat the Chinese at sea
Owen Cooper
>ahh here so free even throw garbage nobody gives a shit and Im free
Just because you're free doesn't mean you have to act like a subhuman who shits where they eat either.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Not when they have nukes and we don't,.
Alexander Nguyen
>We arr gonna attack yiu with planes fucker. Just yiu wait. lol
Xavier Watson
Go here fucboii and fite me chinese aaslhole i hope i can go there and fuck your mom and your sister and your grandmother
Evan Perry
nah
Lincoln Johnson
> (You) >Not when they have nukes and we don't,.
They can't use them though. And the UK does have nukes.
Ethan Wilson
I thought Sup Forums was well versed on Singaporean stance. We have explicitly said that taking sides is paramount suicide. We have everything to fear about being overrun by foreign nations should they snap - but that likelihood is quite low. Our actions are not coloured by nationalistic perceptions of others, no matter how strong they may be. We recognize that, beyond our economic prowess that has been fostered for years, we have nothing.
We tread the softest out of everybody. Out of fear, maybe. But out of a realistic outlook of our survival, definitely.
Daniel Hall
I'm all for an excuse to get rid of Chink-loving mudshits. Please, attack Singapore.
Sebastian Jones
Vietnam export to China less every year now. The only thing improve is Import their material. If they embargo us, we will even less being influenced by them with a trade that only hurt the economy for few years.
Jose Mitchell
They can, if they want to. We don't have big missile defense shit. I don't trust America either, who says they won't try to take over us when they are done with the no1 power stopping them.
A war will not happen anyway
Liam Collins
Why would it be a race thing for them? Isn't their population a blend of Malays, South Indians/Sri Lankans, and Mainland Chinese
Dylan Walker
yeah nice meme.
Cameron Powell
It's not a race thing. It's a shitty country thing
Bentley Nelson
I'd like to thank you guys for showing up. I honestly thought a thread about Singapore would have been archived awhile ago.
Got mad respect for you guys. You've built a country from literally nothing, and you have all the neighboring mudslimes buttmad about it. Props to you.
I can understand fully the desire to not get dragged into stupid conflicts that don't concern you. But as American control of the post WW2 order weakens, we will start to see more and more revanchism, and efforts to return to the "good old days". whatever that means.
You guys have built up an impressive defense force. Don't let it weaken.
Aiden Wright
The Halifax-class only makes 29kt, and would be assblasted from over the horizon.
Brayden Brown
War is good for the economy.
Andrew Sanchez
Fucking anime numale pussy. As expected of average singalorian poster in this asian chinese mango preling imageboard. Fuck your country i hope it burns to ashes when i get nukes Singapore is first on the list. Also long live Mahathir who outlives faggot Kuan Yew. Allahuakbar hope ISIS attack singapore fuck you fuck. Our mighty ships and planes shall bombard singapore day and night like dresden. Fuck Singapore
Sebastian James
I hope Hillary wins and destroy your country, drumpfkin
Brody Ramirez
still 10% faster. and like 25 years older.
better loadout.
Aaron Richardson
>Dissing LKY
CROSSED THE LINE YOU FUCKER
Ryder Stewart
Whine all you want Norway, but you will never know how it feels to sleep at night knowing your nation is propping up every democracy on the planet
Asher Thompson
>when I get nukes
Dylan Cook
Race is a social construct
Joshua Price
BASED MALAYSIA BRINGING HARD ANTICS
Adrian Diaz
and probably like a tenth of the cost of the cuckboat