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>Is it possible for a western to reach N1 in 2 years? not impossible but imo unlikely -- but yes in a perfect situation maybe you'd need the stars to align
I'm halfway through, and it's really interesting so far. They do a really good job at slowly revealing things about all the characters. I haven't seen Stranger Things, but im told it's like Stranger Things without the comic relief.
Jackson Green
Um do you speak french by any chance?
Colton James
>it's like Stranger Things without the comic relief.
jesus christ how horrifying
Nathan Powell
kek idk, that's what someone told me
Aiden Rivera
if you're the same swissanon that helped me last thread, thanks man, really helped
Grayson Rivera
Im learning Slovenian, but all I have is a book and memrise and Im supposed to learn how to pronounce stuff like bratranec and črn. Anyone know where I can hear this stuff?
Lucas Sanchez
TRANSLATION CHALLENGE >It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way. -A tale of two cities, Charles Dickens
Julian Johnson
IIRC the latter one is pronounced like "churn", but with the "u" sound (i.e. the ɜːr morpheme) made shorter.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Why Slovenian? Are you of slovenian descent, or moving there?
Robert Rivera
I just moved to Key West. Should I learn Spanish? I can't roll my R's.
Matthew Nelson
I've studied french for a long time yes. Might be better to ask the french lad any questions you have tho.
Gabriel Sanders
Fuck my sickness, I can't even study properly. My throat is sore and head hurts so much. I don't want to waste my time lying in bed, I've never felt so worthless and helpless in my life like this. Urgh.
Colton Thomas
Listen to Scottish music or movies and try to imitate their sound, it's probably easier if you try to roll your rs in a language you know first
Jonathan Flores
jus sleep, drink lots of fluids, take vitamin pills, and get better, potato frendo
Jayden Sanchez
Well thing is, you stidied french. He didn't. He spoke and heard french since he was a baby. I need your perspective as it matches mine. Its just resources im after, i've given up on finding a proper teacher. I was told to watch french cartoons by a french guy too, but im curious on how you went about it.
Lucas Cox
Well I started in secondary school and just did the work I was given until I got out. Then it was more of a passive thing with a bit of revision here and there. Honestly man just get a junior and leaving cert textbook if you're starting off while using some online resources. Watch alot of films and shit too if you can. Sorry if this isnt much help but it's all I can really tell you.
Jason Hernandez
Its cool. Maybe i shouldn't have asked my examiner to just fail me instead of taking the oral exam though... good times!
Jonathan Wilson
The french orals were so easy tho. Did you just not do anything in the class at all?
Gavin Rogers
Alternatively, speaking with a noticfeable accent doesn't destroy your ability to be decent at the language though.
Lincoln Reed
Not a fucking thing. I hated school and back then had no interest in french...or anything really. Im a completely different person than back then, i was such a lil twat.
Lucas Clark
I assume you did shite all irish too?
Cooper Ortiz
Yeah but i actively despise the language still, though i have love for dublin all the same. You speak it yeah?
Brayden Myers
Haven't touched it in almost 3 months now but tea I'm near enough to fluent. Always loved it. I'd ask of you to take a crack. The reason most people hate it is because they're forced to learn it in shitty way but when you take an interest yourself it's a good way of keeping the culture alive ya know?
Cooper Smith
I just consider it an ugly language, if i ever settled down with a guy who wanted our kids to speak it, i would but otherwise... i can't see it happening. Im sure the culture will be fine though, don't worry.
Daniel Morgan
Saddens me to hear that but sure it's your choice.
Jonathan Long
>tfw Irish is dying
Elijah Gomez
If it makes you feel any better i know im an oddity in that regard. Every1 else i know is like you. Im sorry if i offended you btw.
Landon Ross
just finished first three hour session of the day, will continue with an additional hour later
im committed to learning this evil awful difficult language
Sebastian Wood
Feels bad. What lang you doing again?
Luis Williams
You know what you should do
Dub TV shows into Irish
Asher Ortiz
C'était le meilleur des temps, c'était le pire des temps, c'était l'âge de la sagesse, c'était l'âge de l'imbécilité, c'était l'époque de la croyance, c'était l'époque de l'incrédulité, c'était la saison de la lumière, c'était la saison de l'ombres, c'était le printemps de l'espoir, c'était l'hiver de le désespoir, nous avions tout devant nous, nous n'avions rien devant nous, nous allions directement au paradis, nous allions directement à un autre chemin.
Juan Perez
>c'était l'hiver de le désespoir du désespoir
Jackson Butler
Honestly not a bad idea. Only problem (Don't know if it is one actually) Is in primary I was thought in one dialect and in secondary another so my pronunciation, while correct borrows from each dialect on some words. I really hope my kids kids will grow up speaking irish, and all their grandkids too.
Nathan Williams
german the language of the evil german
Gabriel Murphy
No worries hombre, i'm always lurking so ask if you need anything.
Hunter Diaz
It's up to you to save the langua [Insert "Good luck!" in Irish]
Samuel Sanchez
Is it that hard? Thank you eckkwadore.
Robert Lopez
Oh, I've heard of this show. I didn't realise it was German.
Post good foreign language TV series.
For [Iberian] Spanish I kind of like this one "Vis-a-vis" it's like Orange is the New Black without all the SJW shit (So more Prison Break? Idk it's just in a female prison)
Austin Evans
unless you have some congenital disorder (ie. Ankyloglossia, 'tongue-tie' -- not that common) you should be able to roll your Rs, especially as an American with tapped R. Look up some exercises on YouTube. It's quite simple though, just say something like "pera pera pera" over and over with a loose tongue, gradually try and blow more air over your tongue as you do it, and you might feel it coming.
but worst case scenario? Just speak with tapped R, it's not that bad (-tt- in 'better')
Nathaniel Stewart
It's American, dubbed into German
Ryan King
>To be, or not to be: that is the question: >Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer >The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, >Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, >And by opposing end them? Is the definite article before "slings and arrows" absolutely necessary (when ignoring the rhythm)? Would the sentence have the same meaning and correct grammar if it's omitted?
Nathaniel Martin
its pretty difficult but its not impossible as long as you are dedicated to it, as with any language
Camden Ramirez
b-but... what? No it isn't, are you sure?
Daniel Edwards
deep question desu I'll just give you my quick first impression >Is the definite article before "slings and arrows" absolutely necessary Yes It doesn't sound right otherwise. >Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer [t]he slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, >Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Hard to explain but just intuition. I'd like to say, because "slings and arrows" are not an abstract mass noun, it sounds weird You could say... >Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer outrageous fortune for comparison
Hope this helps. I'll be back later if it warrants further discussion
Joseph Morgan
Oh yeah, you're right, it is originally German
The trailer only did voiceovers and avoided showing people's notes mouthes, so I thought they were trying to hide a bad dub job
Charles Wright
*avoided showing people's moving mouthes
Jaxon Baker
For some reason this particular rule never sticks. Thanks
Aaron Parker
Is Fenian (as in Up to our knees in Fenian blood) an Irish word, or is it Welsh?
Anthony Howard
The way I would translate that into German would be Es war die schönste Zeiten, es war die schlimmste Zeiten...
In other words, I dont know if the structure of the English sentence works in German. (I.e. whether "Es war die schoenste *von* Zeiten is gramatically correct.)
Easton Johnson
Swissanon: two more sentences before I go to sleep. The Dickens quote was too much, not least because I couldn't translate half the words into German there, so I picked two simpler ones from some other shit I read today.
>Without love, it can not be seen. Ohne die Liebe kann es nicht gesehen. I assume that if I were to say "Without love, it WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN seen", I would have to say "Ohne die Liebe wurde es nicht gesehen."
>The single element that makes up the world is Love. Das einzige Element, das der Welt besteht aus, ist Liebe.
(I picked the last one because I also wanted to test out how you'd use "bestehen aus". I assume that this is the active form of the word, i.e. in the sentence "Ein Dutzend besteht aus zwoelf Eier", the Dutzend is doing the bestehen-ing. So if I were to convert the sentence about the testicles to passive form:
"Zwoelf Eier werden aus ein Dutzend bestehen."
(That might not be the best example since nobody says "12 eggs are consisted of a dozen" when you can say "A dozen consists of 12 eggs).
Daniel Walker
>deleted the language files from my mega lol
Mason White
Silly goose.
Tyler Clark
Rip. However since this is a lang thread: Repose en paix.
Logan Watson
Tijd voor slecht Nederlands!!!
>Het was de best van tijden, het was de slechst van tijden, >Het was het tijdperk van wijsheid, het was het tijdperk van dwaasheid, >Het was het tijdperk van geloof, het was het tijdperk van ongeloof, >Het was het seizoen van licht, het was het seizoen van duisternis, >Het was de lente van hoop, het was de winter van wanhoop, >Wij hadden alles voor ons, wij hadden niets voor ons, >Wij waren allemaal rechstreek naar hemel gaan, wij waren allemaal rechstreek de andere weg gaan.
Samuel Taylor
start again and redownload, you'll find some fresh material
Dylan Gonzalez
>Het was het beste van tijden, het was het slechste van tijden,
>>Wij waren allemaal rechstreek naar hemel gaan, wij waren allemaal rechstreek de andere weg gaan.
We zouden allemaal rechtstreeks naar de hemel gaan, we zouden etc
Bretty gud for an American
I meant from the imageguides, now some poor fucker who actually reads the guide I made (Turkish) has no resources.
Ayden Bailey
I'm a beginner in Russian and I just understood the sentences in a listening exercise, first time. They were basic and were probably spoken slower and clearer than normal speech but I'm happy.
Wyatt Stewart
Progress!
Joseph Cooper
Thanks. Wouldn't have thought to use zouden. >For an American Are we really that bad at Dutch, generally? So sad since it's such a comfy language for an English speaker so far in my experience.
Ayden Jackson
I salute you
Wyatt Price
Reminder that Russian is the comfiest language there is.
Jack Murphy
biump
Brody Hill
Hallo!
Ich bin ein deutscher Promi, der sich undercover unter seine Mitarbeiter mischt. Meine Tarnung ist perfekt, sie werden mich nicht erkennen.
Wer bin ich?
Brayden Phillips
I am learning German, but how do I stay motivated to keep learning on a daily basis? I find myself taking months-long "breaks" in between and I slow down my progress tremendously . The only thing I'm pretty consistent with is watching, playing, and listening to German media.
Justin Ortiz
I am, familys from Carinthia, both Austria and Slovenia
Jaxon Gutierrez
Honestly man you just have to force yourself. For meat least I just made sure I did my study for 2 hours a night every single night for three weeks and after that it just became a habit. Talking to some natives can help boost motivation too.
Luke Green
low energy shill
Jason Lee
I see what you mean, after a while, it just becomes a routine of doing it everyday. >Talking to some natives can help I wish I could find a German speaker within a 50 mile radius from me, but they're non-existent here at least.
Bentley Young
Use the internet friend.
Angel Torres
I guess that will work also.
Jace Reed
What's the best way to learn Estonian?
Jaxson James
learning german for few years already, got C1 sprachdiplom, and still hard for me to speak it. what's wrong ?
Christian Barnes
Are you a Russian living in Estonia?
Bentley Butler
I'll learn Dutch, wish me luck anons!
Alexander Reyes
Is there any use in these language proficiency certificates one can obtain? Does anyone ITT have any?
Nolan Williams
Nee, ik zal je alleen pech wensen.
David Kelly
>Die Armee wird besiegt werden HABEN That' wrong though. Honestly I wouldn't mess with that stuff. "Die Armee wird besiegt worden sein." (The army will have been defeated) is what you were trying to express I suppose but honestly, don't bother with it. "Die Armee wird besiegt werden." is fine but German would never say "Die Armee wird besiegt worden sein." to express a future a event, even though it's grammatically correct. However, check this out:
>"Warum kommt die Armee nicht, wir brauchen Verstärkung!" ("Why won't the army arrive, we need reinforcements!") >"Die Armee wird wohl besiegt worden sein." ("I guess the army was defeated)"
"Die Armee wird wohl besiegt worden sein." doesn't refer to the future at all. We can use the future tense to express a speculation on our part. It's often used with "wohl" but it's not necessary. But you can also say "The Armee ist wohl besiegt worden" to express the same thing. It's a cool gimmick to keep in mind though. More examples:
>"Warum fragen wir nicht user-kun, wie deutsche Verben funktionieren?" (Why don't we ask user-kun how German verbs work?) >"Der wird auch keine Ahnung haben." (I don't think he knows either.)
>"Warum hat user-kun so schlecht im Deutschtest abgeschnitten?" (Why did user-kun perform so poorly in the German exam?) >"Er wird wohl wird seine Hausaufgaben nicht gemacht haben." (He didn't do this homework, I suppose.)
>"Ist user-kun eine Schwuchtel?" (Is user-kun a faggot?) >"Er wird schon so einige Schwänze gelutscht haben." (I'm pretty sure he''s sucked his fair share of cocks.)
William Harris
One day I'll be able to read that, just you wait user!
Grayson Evans
oh right ;_; damn
u fuggin wot leaf
if they are the 'official' ones from respected bodies, oh yeah, those are highly valuable on CVs etc. Obligatory in some cases. for English I'm talking IELTS, Cambridge, that stuff but random internet ones from literal whos? No don't bother
the analogous construction exists in English you know
Kayden Davis
Want to learn dutch. I already know 3 languages, latvian, russian and english. Where are some good resources to learn dutch?
Jace Morgan
dont think so, usually russians in balt countries dont even bother with the local language.
Jackson Ross
Livelingua.com has the Defense language institute courses for Dutch for free. I've been using that, with Teach Yourself Books. For pronounciation, Michel Thomas (pirated) and Dutchpod101.
Sebastian Hill
? the local language IS russian
Easton Taylor
Most young(millenials and younger) balts dont speak russian. Its getting quite segregated round here. And russians are minorities by a significant margin.
Gavin Butler
that's why the local language is russian latvian is the official language, russian the local one for many
Thomas Campbell
True. But, in many latvian majority towns russians still speak russian. I live in a latvian town, yet russians only speak russian. They force bilinguallity on us but not on themselves
Jacob Morris
So a way to use the speculation form of the future is as follows: "Ist dieser Post richtig?" (is this post correct?) "Nein, der OP ist ein bekannter shitposter, der wird falsch und schwul sein." (no, the op is a famous shitposter, it is probably fake and gay)
Chase Nelson
>"Nein, der OP ist ein bekannter shitposter, der wird falsch und schwul sein."
Yep that works.
Parker Cook
?למה עוד לא למדת עברית
Jaxon Myers
Since Latvia was part of Soviet Union/Russia for a few hundred years and all these years it was only Russian language which was official here, you shouldn't wonder why they still call their language local.
Julian Evans
Ah fug but I suppose they can always google
Liam Sanchez
Bump
Carson Mitchell
If anyone has used Genki I, am I supposed to read through part A and part B at the same time or do I do part A first?
Dylan Davis
I looked at the FAQ for Genki, figured it out on my own.
