Statists will defend this

> Why don't ancaps suggest real solutions to problems instead of just using soundbites about competition and freedom to cop-out?

Because you're ready to pounce on the answer that you get, and call it bat-shit-insane, and continue to ignore any sound economic theory, and neglect the giant blind spot that you and every other state-worshiping retard have for the seen and unseen effects of government intrusion into people's lives.

You people ask how libertarians/anarchists would solve poverty without the state... then we say charity (which we both know probably couldn't address the magnitude of the problem as it stands now), because we know that you have a giant blind spot for how the state creates and has perpetuated more poverty than could or would exist without all the myriad other distortions of the economy and disruptions of peoples' lives.

You people ask how libertarians/anarchists would solve all the problems of the "free market" healthcare system without the state implementing single-payer... then we say that prices necessarily communicate the most valued societal ends and use of scarce resources, and that central planning necessarily results in malinvestments and shortages and surpluses (and of course that sounds pie-in-the sky to you; maybe nice on paper; but obviously bunk in reality... because of "greed", or because healthcare is supposedly magically different than all other goods and services because people are dying and therefore under duress and can't possibly negotiate, as if there's not already mechanisms to render that effectively moot), because you refuse to understand that America's healthcare system is not capitalistic or market-based, and hasn't been for a very very long time.

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You refuse to see that America's healthcare system, even before ObamaCare, was more fascist than the Euro systems are socialist. That primary, and long-standing interventions into the supply of doctors, schools, hospitals, crowding out through government medical spending, and a myriad of other secondary and unintended consequences from across the spectrum, long ago destroyed what was once a healthcare system so inexpensive, that doctors and other industries effectively lobbied that out of existence.

You people ask how libertarians/anarchists would solve the problem of gang/drug/firearm violence, without a strong militarized police force and a state to limit the right to bear arms, or without changing anything about the basic status-quo of your precious democratic society. But you refused to listen to us ages ago, when we tried to teach you all the economics of prohibition. You did not listen when we told you that (not only with drugs or alcohol) when you regulate or prohibit things that people want; it creates black markets, filled with violence; with lower quality and higher priced goods; which become the domain of organized crime, which fills some of the governance voids. We try to get you to understand that most of the problems of violence and drug abuse and overdose stem, not from liberal policies or tolerance, but from the dictatorial nanny-state itself; who insists on creating a police state and jailing millions of people for crimes with no victim (and on top of it; when, after you set up this giant carrot on a stick for the prison-industrial complex to go after. . . you wonder what happened to your republic and blame "deregulation" and the "free market" for the fact that there's a perverse for-profit prison industry... and you call these government contractors "private").

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I'm not reading your post and I saged

So listen to me carefully: when you ask us how we would fix the fact that there's little competition in the U.S. in broadband ISP's... we're going to tell you something you don't want to hear. You need to take off your blinders, and look at the mess that the state has created to society all around you. Understand that they have monopolized education and taught you all some very false and dangerous assumptions about how monopolies form and how markets work. Understand that, right in front of your eyes, are municipalities who have preyed on you, in order to make money, by the doctrine of "natural monopolies" and sold you the lie that they and only they can and must provide the roads and the utilities, and that therefore they must also control the rights of way, and that there is no other way to provide broadband, than to franchise out rights of way to one or two firms, and that otherwise broadband wouldn't happen because it's too expensive to tear up streets or string wires on existing telephone poles, frequently... it is impossible that real competition would find ways of doing things any differently or even making it profitable and worth it for consumers and road owners to give more than one right of way.

But of course, you won't have any of this, and you won't believe it, even if I lay out the facts and the data and the history of all this in front of your eyes. You won't learn how markets work; you will only continue to pretend like what you observe empirically about the "free market utopia that is the U.S." all around you, must mean that you need a strong central government, because people are bad, so you need a government made up of people are bad, so you need a government made up of people are bad, so you need a government made up of people are bad, so you need a government made up of people are bad, so you need a government made up of @#%@#$. On and on and on we go.

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You won't see cause. You only see effect, and refuse to understand that freedom is not about solving the very problems that the state has created for society, it is about not creating those problems in the first place.

There, I'm an ancap who didn't cop-out. Now, take your state and your policies and your regulations and your net neutrality, and shove off and leave us alone to actually build a peaceful and prosperous world, with ample high-speed internet access.

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FUCKING

LEAF!

Is there an age of consent for sex under Anarcho Capitalism (asking for a friend).

Yes. Anarcho Capitalism requires tribunals to follow a form of customary law.
Anyone who disagrees is a "muh axiomatic principles" child.

So you are statists then? Who are you to tell me and my loving partner what we can and cannot do with our bodies?

First of all, fuck your meme question.

Second of all, the best answer is that when a child is willing to pay for all their living expenses they have taken responsibility for their life totally and are now an adult. Absent that they are subject to adult supervision and consent in contracting, including sexual consent.

There is then no standard age of consent, but that's more realistic anyway.

>So you are statists then?
no? Who said anything about a state?

>Who are you to tell me and my loving partner what we can and cannot do with our bodies?
What you are looking for is called state-sponsored liberal degeneracy, not libertarianism. Luckily for you it's applied in a lot of places.

You don't need a state to have law. Google "polycentric law", or if you have 23 minutes watch this:

Machinery of Freedom
youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o

Canada yes!

thank you for making this thread btw. Sup Forums was always ancap

Fuck off Lauren.
Your literal director of Communications for the LP worked for the Young Communist League and was a LGBT fagtron who needed a job that was good on a resume.

>Second of all, the best answer is that when a child is willing to pay for all their living expenses they have taken responsibility for their life totally and are now an adult. Absent that they are subject to adult supervision and consent in contracting, including sexual consent.
Honestly I very much dislike those kind of answers. A big part of the libertarian project is we're not going to shape society to fit our whims and rationalization. The only kind of law compatibly with freedom is customary law, where lawyers are concerned not with first principles but with coherency.

i.e. we don't do a tabula rasa because we're not gommies, the law is a millenia old evolutive institution and we're keeping those millenia of evolution not throwing them away

Are these tribunals that i vote for? Would people be required to pay into them for their function? Would not paying be reason for the tribunal to punish a citizen that enjoys the benefits of the tribunal others are paying in for?

You're god damn right.

>Know your place in life is where you want to be
>Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me
>Keep on looking forward, no use in looking 'round
>Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down

>Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
>A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
>We marvel after those who sought
>New wonders in the world, wonders in the world,
>Wonders in the world they wrought

>Live for yourself, there's no one else
>More worth living for
>Begging hands and bleeding hearts will
>Only cry out for more

>Well, I know they've always told you
>Selfishness was wrong
>Yet it was for me, not you, I
>Came to write this song

>Who pays for vaccination in an ancap society?

Serious question.

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hey maybe she saw the light with her time in the left.

m8 its not going to happen, its not about a principled choice or way of living.
- You live in a money producing machine so that the higher ups can enact their geopolitical strategies.
- This will not go away, you are just on their ride and on their land.

Your like the shitty little end pusher who parties in their spare time within a big drug operation that spans the globe.

Making grafting a penis onto your head less frowned upon by society, or setting quotas doesn't disrupt the structure of it. What you are proposing does. They need to own slaves either by trust or by being dependent on the state. It is not allowed.

Please explain how espionage and the military works. I'm not talking about shit militias I mean tanks planes boats to protect all the shit Ull be making and inventing

It's essentially a society based on overlapping commonlaw systems, and you would choose which dispute resolution organization and private arbitrator you want the same way you choose any other product or service in a free market.

Libertarians don't want no state though. Private property rights must be protected through the legal system.

Keep fighting the good fight based leaf.

Well what the fuck answer the question. You're converting no one.

I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about what exactly widespread defense would look like, but everything is stronger when it's decentralized.

I imagine it would involve mutual contracts for defense between industry competitors.

Sorry I got distracted, I was playing air guitar to Rush.

guccifer was not a state agent yet served more for espionage than anyone

Nobody cares, Lauren