Is France waking up?

“I was sitting on a beach with my family. I was wearing a classic headscarf. I had no intention of swimming,” said the former flight attendant from Toulouse, giving her name only as Siam.

She told the police that she thought her clothing was normal and appropriate, she had not shocked anyone and there was no law stopping her being dressed as she was.

“I wasn’t in a burkini, I wasn’t in a burqa, I wasn’t naked, so I considered my clothing was appropriate,” she said. She described a mini-riot around her as about 10 people ran over in support, telling the police that the family was not bothering anyone, while about 10 others verbally insulted her. “There were insults like ‘Go home’, ‘We don’t want that here’, ‘France is a Catholic country’. My daughter was crying, she didn’t understand why her mother was being asked to leave.”
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> Sarkocuck
> waking up
pick one

All Muslims do is provoke. They have no respect for the country that lets them stay there. Such fucking children. I'm sick of this when is Hitler coming back?

>France is a Catholic country
How is this an insult again? It's fact, eldest daughter of the church.

france is a muslim/atheist country

So is the Vatican, by Polish standards.

>I had no intention of swimming

So what?

Sarkozy can fuck off.

>Putting Muslim and Atheist together

Fuck you, Polcuck

Typical muslims:
>perfectly knows it is a provocation
>still do it because they love to provoke and perfectly know leftists will protect them
>yell "MUH ISLAMOPHOBIA" "MUH RACISM" when they get called on their bullshit

Most digusting thing is that we talk more about this shit than the fucking muzzies that backstabbed people in Germany, Switzerland and Australia recently.

>France is a Catholic country

M-maybe there's still hope for Europe. Maybe people still remember we're all Christian nations despite decades of Marxist brainwashing. I got tears in my eyes reading that

youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM

>francais.rt.com/france/25480-maire-corse-demande-maire-sisco

a corsican mayor (2012 best mayor of france) want to kick the muslim from the island

Most "French" nationals don't even know the text anymore. The Marseillaise has become a shadow of itself.

youtube.com/watch?v=m4SKLsWXaqI

>those abs on the milf on the right

U FUCKING REMEMBER SARKOZY SAYING THAT HE WILL ASURE THAT THERE IS NOTHING SUCH AS EUROPEAN BUT MIXED RACE OF WHITES AND AFRICANS IN EURO? HE IS FILTHY JEW DONT BELIEVE HIS LIES.

He ain't wrong. As much as I don't like muslims, they're ALREADY in your country. Once you do this, either you contain them into ghettos or else you're going to have to deal with them being muslim in public places.

The fact is, burka bans will only polarize muslims even more and cause more to become radicalized. Which means more terrorism.

>The fact is, burka bans will only polarize muslims even more and cause more to become radicalized. Which means more terrorism.
Good.

I say good, because the more radical Muslims get and the more terrorism, the more anti-Islam will society become.

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>Islam is the religion of peace so you cannot insult them, but we shouldn't do things to provoke it!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

It doesn't make ANY fucking sense.

>"Don't insult my religion of peace of I'll get angry"

oh mudslimes...

Old woman on the right has a six pack. Fuck me silly

Of all the things muslims do to French people, fucking burkinis is what they chose to go after? Really? That seems awfully petty, considering all the awful shit muslims have been doing to their nation for the last 20 years.

Yes and no.

The ones who want to join a civilized society will say fuck it and give up their barbaric ideology.

The ones who don't will radicalize and the kebab removal can be performed with extreme prejudice.

Anything you do supports radical islam it seems

>Giving a fuck about what other people wear to swim in
There's the problem

Tell me, when the talibans crashed a plane in your tower, what did you do ?

By the way you have no understanding of muslims or their psyche, you are manchild on the other side of the ocean who thinks his opinion matters because he is an american, pro tip: it doesn't.

backstabbing muzzies? what dis?

You can't even wear a burka in or near government agencies in casablanca

the fuck are you on about.

This just again goes with the stupid argument that if you say isis are muslim you'll radicalize more muslim. Are you legit stupid?

I love Corsica. If ISIS hits there, they're dead.

Corsicans won't do shit boyo.

How... how do you go to a beach and make a sign like that? What the fuck? Do these people think society is going to bend to their every whim?

Once Trump becomes president, shit will get real. Then a new Hitler will rise.

Yes. They've been pampered to way too long.

Please don't disappoint ameribros.

>visit Paris to see if the memes are true
>its fucking horrible, almost like Mogadishu
Yeah I'll be leaving back to Iceland asap

They've already done more than metropolicucks.

the intent is to breed a mixed race. fuck Sarkozy that zionist lackey

isn't iceland a degenerate shithole these days also?

>be socialist
>believe firmly in secularism in the public commons
>surrounded by liberals that want this sort of shit but claim to be socialist

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depends what you mean. France now tries to integrate the muslims by force.

>what did you do ?

we spent ten years blowing them up in iraq and afghanistan

>you are manchild on the other side of the ocean who thinks his opinion matters because he is an american, pro tip: it doesn't.

you're also a European (not french) citizen who sold his country to Brussels and Germany. My money has Americans on it, what's on yours?

>swimming is radical

if these bitches actually nutted up and got on a surfboard then i'd say they'd have a point

>This just again goes with the stupid argument that if you say isis are muslim you'll radicalize more muslim.

You're mistaking my argument. My entire point is that if life is made more difficult for muslims (an example is a burka ban), then their victim complex will be legitimatized and more of them will be sympathetic towards terrorism and violence. The same is true for anyone, if you make free expression impossible than violent revolution will become inevitable.

My entire point is that they are ALREADY in the country, which was a huge mistake. But, now that they are, you have to accept their culture or else they're going to chimp out. And chimp outs cost a lot of money (police, prisons, and security checkpoints) to contain. Which is a problem as european countries are shit at antiterrorism and riot control as until recently it hasn't been a major concern.

You don't know muslims, I grew up around them.

You give them a hand and they'll rip off your arm.

them not abiding the law, which is the burka ban, just shows they aren't willing to abide the law and integrate and accept those laws.

the moment we back down from that they'll move the goalposts yet again.

Look at what's happening to the UK or sweden.

It's that simple.

The fact is that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are behind all this

" The Saudi Connection: Wahhabism and Global Jihad"
" Saudi Arabia is not the only source of resources for jihadism—public and private entities in Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and more recently Turkey have also been linked to collection and transfer of funds supporting terror groups. But the Saudis have been the most persistent source of support for global jihad by spreading Wahhabism abroad to radicalize foreign Muslims and then giving financial support to their violent struggles"
" Weapons and ammunition used by the Paris attackers have been traced back to jihadis in Bosnia, where preachers at the King Fahd Mosque in Sarajevo who were trained and funded with Saudi support declare those attacks were staged by the West as an excuse to discriminate against Muslims."
" The Wahhabi movement that animates Saudi policy from behind the scenes was founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1703–92), a Sunni theologian who called for a return to austere practices supposedly followed by the Salaf, or earliest Muslims, during the 7th century."
worldaffairsjournal.org/article/saudi-connection-wahhabism-and-global-jihad

Please don't fall in Sarkozy's trap. He is just a rotted politician. He adaot his speech depending on the poll.

No France is behind it, because you keep supporting those shitheads.

>But, now that they are, you have to accept their culture
Fuck no!

Don't trust Sarkozy, and PLEASE don't use him as an exemple of a good France.

So if Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries oppress women in various ways that's considered "culture," but if France doesn't want any burkinis it's somehow considered oppression?

>but muh freedom to practice

nigga it's a very secular country and you walking around with a burka or a burkini for that matter is essentially you being a billboard for islam, thus going against the secular culture of france, thus fuck off already ie when in rome

I don't think that after exalting racemixing and mass immigration there's anybody that likes him.

He's just mad that immigrant teens are not topless wearing thongs.

So then treat them like every other criminal is treated. Moderate and gentrified ones won't protect terrorists then. Lines have to be drawn and going hard line on it may give some temporary comfort but makes the job of both gentrifying them and integrating them much more difficult and expensive. And as their numbers get larger due to migration, they will have a greater ability to not obey the law.

The whole point here is to retain law and order. While a race war may sound like fun, it's not as europeans themselves are disarmed and it would make even just buying groceries more inconvenient. Look at the Philippines, which has a muslim insurgency. Most of the "middle class" stores are in malls with checkpoints, and during elections the police setup checkpoints where they search all cars for weapons.

ofc they are. But their affects can be mitigated (say, by not accepting migrants).

fuck yes you do, either that or you're going to have a yugoslavia style breakdown. Look at how the IRA managed to fuck with Britain during the Troubles.

Again that may sound romantic, but it's not. Having to lock your doors or look over your shoulder every time you walk outside is not fun. And having to show ID, and get your bags searched, at every hospital, school, train station and mall is not fun either.

To be fair, the French probably don't understand her creation; it simply pushes Islam and they probably think it just lets sand niggers go to the beach

Yeah. Doesn't have any chances to pass anyway.
It will be between Juppé and LePen, really.

Litteraly the man who said that race mixing is an obligation
>mfw

Both Robespierre and the Vatican said so as well. That's why there's so many mestizos.

Hitler truly was France's only chance.

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They will protect them.

Neighborhoods like molenbeek hid abdeslam for a very long time. Not all of the muslims there are radicalized and still they hid them. Why? Because there's a fine line between moderate and radical islam and giving the choice, moderates will jump to radical faster than you can blink.

Philippines is a legit shithole, I don't want europe to turn in that. A hard line is drawn and if they can't even do something as simple as not go to the beach in a burkini how are they ever gonna accept us in our entirety?

It's an entire argument based on wishful thinking.

I don't understand France, one day they hate muslims and want them to gtfo and the next day some Trudeau level cuckholdery shows up in the news about France

Damn check out the abs on that milf

>Trudeau level cuckholdery shows up in the news about France

like which one?

Wowoui! Protect your milfs France.

I just realized that means white house.

I will rise.

>A hard line is drawn and if they can't even do something as simple as not go to the beach in a burkini how are they ever gonna accept us in our entirety?

Burkas shouldn't even be a problem in the first place, it's only europeans that are making it so. It's literally a nonissue in places that have muslim problems as it costs too much money to enforce and fuels terrorism. If it comes down to a game of tit-for-tat, then at some point they will begin shooting and blowing up car bombs everywhere. This may make for some good happenings but it makes life shit for everyone that has to actually go outside.

And it's at this point, where europe would finally bend over. If terrorism becomes the norm your governments will go full cuck in ways you cannot even imagine. The Philippines only gets away with what it does because it's strategically important in the South Pacific, and because it's a third world toilet. But your governments, if faced with violence, will opt for appeasement rather than confrontation. Just like they did with Hitler.

France is dead, it's tourism is collapsing, millionaires are fleeing, and the state of emergency will never end.

The new normal in France is the image of a child ran over by a truck.

(((Sarkikezy))) will continue to steal all of Le Pen's talking points and claim them as his own.

He is setting himself up to steal her thunder and """"win"""" the rigged election next year.

Screenshot this

Beats the alternatives.

How does it fuel terrorism? Really, because we "insult" muslims by not letting them do what they want? Seems like a volatile group to have near you and we should cater to them?

You're entire plan on how to fix europe is basically, let them walk over you in hopes they don't blow you up anyway; which for your information has already happened multiple times since we let hordes and hordes in; so I'm inclined to believe they'll turn to terrorism either way.

The thing you are suggesting will turn into tit for tat easily. They need to know our laws and we shouldn't bend our laws for fear of terrorism. Simple as that.

You take the philippines as an example of how we should handle the muslim yet you now say
>The Philippines only gets away with what it does because it's strategically important in the South Pacific, and because it's a third world toilet
So it wouldn't work for us.

You bring up our governments being faced with violence and opting for appeasement when we now are marking a clear line in the sand and what do you say? Appease.

and the complimentary comparison with hitler

>life is made more difficult for muslims (an example is a burka ban)

They don't have to wear the burka at all, it's a totally optional thing that is only mandatory in the most extremist form of Islam, which we want to get rid of anyways

>Be nice to us or we'll cut your heads off :^)
>I mean, we're ALREADY here so there's absolutely no solution other than catering to our every whim

>The new normal in France is the image of a child ran over by a truck.
So? The French people have still not woken up. There are enough people who think Islam is the religion of peace(TM), not even kidding.

You're retarded. They are guests in their new country, it's up to them to integrate, not us.

>or you're going to have a yugoslavia style breakdown
To add..
Sure it was rough a couple of years (for some more than for others) but we're all happy of the outcome.

>if you ban something to them they will get radical

How is that a pro muslim argument, you dumb midget fucktard?

Build them some houses in Algeria and send them home. When this nation falls apart the violence is going to spill over into all Western nations.

>right wing party becomes the biggest one
>parties that were cucked until that moment start saying reasonable things
In the end it's a good thing but you still have to be a retard to believe them

>How does it fuel terrorism?

It's a law designed specifically to target them. It tells them that they are second class citizens. Which, Sup Forumsfaggotry aside, it generally not a thing you want to have happen as it just makes them angry. The same applies to any group. There's a difference between letting them be muslim and causing them to do violence. The best strategy by far is to not let them in, but that point has passed. Banning burkas (and similar) will only precipitate a larger crisis one which will cause your government to be even more cucked. Again, the point is to not give them reasons to attack the state.

>The thing you are suggesting will turn into tit for tat easily. They need to know our laws and we shouldn't bend our laws for fear of terrorism. Simple as that.

You WILL bend for terrorism though, your countries are not capable of an effective crackdown. Once a large enough terror attack occurs, europeans will chose to give muslims more autonomy rather than trying to integrate them. This is where the true cuckening will begin. First it'll be simple segregation (ie muslims get their own beaches and their own cars on trains) before official autonomy (recolonization of muslim legal contracts and financial/budget Independence for their ghettos, also recognizing Riyals as currency).

The entire problem here is that european countries are not strong or nationalistic enough to protect themselves from the consequences of bad social policy (ie a burka ban). So it will only make things worse.

I guess they insinuate the "oh poor mudslimes ;_;" argument of the left
The logical conclusion is pretty obvious, some/if not most of mudslimes will get radicalized by banning of their "culture" in west, but with that we come closer to them being eradicated

So basically, we have to cater to their demands or they'll kill us? Pretty typical excuse.

>My daughter was crying, she didn’t understand why her mother was being asked to leave

Khalid gets BTFO. Well done ameribro.

When electric cars will replace dirty gas cars
it will have the potential to dramatically alter the relationship between France and the oil-monarchies and it will diminish the benefits that oil-monarchies enjoyed

The reason is that we are not muslim. That's reason enough for them.

You are already saying we need to bend with the burkini ban

Also, if I move to some of their countries I need to abide by their laws or I get thrown in jail. Look at tourism reports concerning dubai. They don't give a fuck if you might possibly be a terrorist. And not giving people the freedom to wear what they want in those countries is a direct attack to our values but we still comply BECAUSE ITS THEIR COUNTRY

The moment a european country tries to be a tad natiolistic and try to embrace their values we have people like you to say "let it go or they'll blow you up" which they are already have, multiple times and that was way before the burkini ban.

We both know that the migrants aren't guests, there are a permanent fixture and will never go away. The migrant crisis began a year ago and in that time tens if not hundreds of thousands of babies have been shit out as half-citizens. No EU country has the balls (or even the legal authority) to kick this class of people out. And those are a minority, the actual migrants themselves will stay forever for the same reason.

Guess what? Europe is a multicultural country like the US and Russia now. With all the problems that brings. The only european country prepared for them is the UK, thanks to the Troubles.

Ideally France and friends would just remove them back to the middle east, but both of us know this will never ever occur. As a result, catering to them is better than fighting a prolonged domestic insurgency.

>bend over or they'll start beheading you in the streets
Okay wiseguy, why did they commit terrorism before this? When there were no "discriminatory" laws? Fuck them, fuck you and fuck any apologists. The state is greater than some shithead savages. If they up the stakes then they just bring us closer to the day of the rope.

They are the ones that should bend knee, they are the ones that must learn to live like human beings, they are the ones that need to prove themselves worthy of the rights of a citizen.

>Corsicans won't do shit

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He is a snake politician like Merkel. Saying whatever whenever to retain power.

I hope he reruns in your country because that would be the best thing for FN

But it's still retarded, how the fuck do you rationalize that to yourself. And these people hear the argument and go "well yeah, we should really be nice to the POOR refugees"

What the flying fuck

I can't wait to remove families of kebabs for minimal wage...

>You are already saying we need to bend with the burkini ban

Apples and oranges. There's a difference between letting muslims have their stupid traditions and sucking them off. Antagonizing them leads to terrorism which will lead to autonomy. Is the goal integration, or the creation of independent muslim colonies?

>Also, if I move to some of their countries I need to abide by their laws or I get thrown in jail.

And you're going to create that inside Europe soon enough, if the separation of religion and state is not maintained. The legal basis for banning burkas can be twisted to also ban christian crosses or similar.

>you must appease because you'll lose the war
Fifth column.

He's worse than that. He's a french caricature of the happy merchant. Plus he's fucking Micheal Jackson's double...

Its the same sort of people that care about emotions and feels of others instead of caring about truth first and foremost

They are ready to make space for muslim exclusivity because "its their culture" and "don't make them sad" like OPs article is written

The way you dismiss this narrative is to completely destroy the cornerstone of "caring about emotions of others". You can do this by using analogy of "emotions of lives ruined by massive immigration", "emotions ruined by massive rapes" (using their argument against them). You can also do the "emotions of my family/friends/community/nation matter more to me than their emotions" (which will just slide the discussion about feelings into multiculturalism where you can easily destroy them)
And also you can use the "Western values are better than whatever values we can import from muslim countries, they either need to adapt or go back"

>Okay wiseguy, why did they commit terrorism before this?

Because it's a minority doing it. You don't know what it's like to live in a country where 15% of the population truly believes in a religious cause and will wear a uniform and take up a gun for it. Look at how pleasant Ulster was before the Good Friday agreement.

>The state is greater than some shithead savages.

It's not greater than the EU. Your state is run by Brussels and the EU will not tolerate kebab removal. But the EU will recognize muslim breakaway states if the muslims in them arm up and demand their own country.

How difficult is it for white cucks to understand French people are sick of Muslims getting in their face all day ? These people need to fuck off and move to Saudi Arabia already.

The Guardian has been sperging out for a week over this and there are even feminists protesting against the ban, what the fuck is wrong with these people ?

>Once a large enough terror attack occurs, europeans will chose to give muslims more autonomy rather than trying to integrate them.
Top kek. Sure, if you disregard every single European reaction to similar situations in its history. We're far more likely to just genocide them than anything else.

>This is where the true cuckening will begin. First it'll be simple segregation (ie muslims get their own beaches and their own cars on trains)
Says the guy that believes we should bend over for the burkini. As far as giving them anything, that'll never happen, especially with the religious angle.

There is no war, because one side won't fight. Again europeans and the EU are disarmed. If you start a war, you'll loose. Which is to say, muslims will get their own states perhaps with their own islamic currency.

The only options left are integration or segregation. One leads to a multicultural state (again like the US or Russia), the other leads to a Yugoslav style civil war and breakup.