do you people realize the only reason you're alt-right faggots is because: 1) most of you lack the intelligence and/or determination to read serious philosophy, especially marxist philosophy and 2) most of you have deep psychological issues that stem from being aspies while growing up?
to anyone that doesn't fall into these 2 categories, I will suggest this simple experiment. Most of you (even the not so bright ones) realize that mass muslim immigration to the eu will bring a clash of cultures between the conservative muslims and the more progressive eu (the irony here being that most reactionary misogynist faggots here would agree more with muslims on must subjects than with progressive liberals, but let's not get into that). What most of you cannot truly grasp is why this clash of culture exists, why muslims think the way they think, why all this is happening etc. So I challenge you to read Zizek's articles on muslim immigration, with a non-biased mindset.
Of course I'm not referring to the fullblown "muh jews spook" neonazi retard, but to the 10-20 logical people that turn to the "alt-right" because they feel the liberal establishment atm is "not right" while not being able to pinpoint why and are just looking for some objective thoughts. If you find zizek's thoughts interesting, I suggest trying to read some marxist literature. Hopefully you will understand that the history of humanity is the history of class struggle, and that your only real enemy is the capital no matter what ethnicity it is
>You will never be so obsessed with Communism that you consider Stalin your husbando Like Ziz
shit sucks man
Christian Martinez
zizek is very anti-stalinistic, what are you talking about?
Easton King
theres a tornado warning issued to my direct area
William Moore
You don't need books
All you need is eyes to see things have to change
As to 'why muslims think the way they think'
-- go back to your room and shut up
Charles Cooper
>serious philosophy, especially marxist philosophy
Colton Reyes
>Marxism >Serious Philosophy
Alexander Reyes
>literally has a picture of stalin begin me
Nigga
William Long
Fag
Connor Mitchell
>serious philosophy >Marxist philosophy
This is why you can't pay denbts
Owen Torres
Oh bullshit. Now this is a big subject which I am not sure how to approach without further consideation, but the divide is not between capital and no capital, the divide is something closer to home, the human development.
As there are scales to everything in nature, so are there scales to the measurment of the human. From penis size, to intelligence, to coultural development, to the amount of sacrifice and effort invested. This, along with the entropy of the world, ends up categorising and putting us into various hierarchies.
These are concepts you marxists will never admit, because admittance will show what shallow ideology you are invested in. No depth, no consistence, no beauty, and most importantly, no mapping to the real world.
Isaiah Kelly
Marxism is crap man. Have you ever seen real marxism in action? its complete shit. Nothing happens beyond creating a more extreme version of what marx didnt want. a majority of the country's wealth literaly being owned by the top 1,000 people of the nation, extreme political and social purges, military ife is the norm for all, its not volunteer, no ability to have freedom of speech. Its not egalitarian by any means
Jace Sullivan
You have the wrong board m8.
This is the board for discussing international cricket
Sup Forums is the one you're looking for
Aaron Brown
ye this post wasn't addressed to your kind of person user
but you haven't even read marx, let alone other marxists or hegel
Noah Moore
> Marxist
Brayden Adams
IDJEOWLOGY
Isaac Johnson
>is this bitch serious
William Morris
>Marxist philosophy
You might have had me without that part 4/10
Jaxon Gonzalez
" Nothing happens beyond creating a more extreme version of what marx didnt want." It's exactly because of their detachment from reality. The same detachment that can be seen in their immigration policies where they think importing low-IQ people from all corners of the globe will make us one big happy family where nobody will step over everyone elses toes in their aspiration to power, to mislead, and to control
Robert Taylor
>serious philosophy, especially marxist philosophy
Says the guy who's never read Evola, Scruton or Spengler.
Cameron Mitchell
This. Up your game, souvlakinigga
Josiah Bennett
I knew this post would attract these types of people, but you guys weren't the people I was referring to. Just move along to your natsoc general or whatever
> From penis size, to intelligence, to coultural development, to the amount of sacrifice and effort invested
you are talking non-sense user, do you realize it?
Caleb Morris
P A Y D E B T S A Y D E B T S
Asher Reed
OP is a faggot
Post may mays
Evan Brown
zizek is trash
Adrian Stewart
>So I challenge you to read Zizek's articles on muslim immigration
Then post the article you debt-ridden fucks.
Zizek has been good until recently. He bought into the EU meme and is now forever discredited in my mind,
Brody Phillips
>especially marxist philosophy
ANNNDDD, you just lost any possible credibility to your argument.
Angel Brooks
>I challenge you to read Zizek's articles on muslim immigration, with a non-biased mindset.
I challenge you to read Scruton's 'Thinkers of the New Left'.
What's funny about Zizek is that he packages reactionary truths to his leftist audience who have their heads blown apart and applaud due to never having heard his truisms, and he can only get away with it by being known as a communist.
Most people on the far right reject the idea of consumer capitalism, but it's just that we understand that liberalism is what has caused its ascendency and that it must always be kept under the heel of sovereignty.
Jason Lopez
...
Juan Brooks
>Pay debnts
Colton Morgan
>Evola i've actually read evola. tradisionalism is reactionary garbage though, it's the dangerous kind of idealism that keeps perpetuating hatred and war in the world
Cameron Rodriguez
>especially Marxist philosophy This is where I stopped reading.
Brandon Butler
>he's okay until he disagrees with me now he's dumb
John Carter
0/10
Be more realistic in your shitpoating next time instead of using a requirements list of words shoehorned into your post like some college assignment looking for just a passing grade
Gabriel Anderson
this desu
Logan Howard
...
Adam Ward
maybe if you paid debts you wouldn't be so salty
Bentley Johnson
I agree, but you gotta admit that young Stalin was pretty handsome for a disgusting slav
Lucas Cook
but you've never read marx have you? what do you think marxism is exactly? i've seen people on this board refer to liberals as marxists, which is beyond retarded
Daniel Martinez
>marxist philosophy
actually turned my head away in disgust
Justin Johnson
pay denbts
Landon Phillips
ITT: Pure ideology
Juan Collins
>I can't argue with people that are critical of my world view so could you please leave?
Good argument. Really changed my perspective on communism.
Kayden Rodriguez
Not an argument. Marxist useful idiot detected. I hope you realize that your globalist masters will only allow you to live as long as you are useful to them.
Liam Gomez
>especially marxist philosophy >serious philosophy pick one
Tyler Ortiz
Top-tier mongoloid, 4 shit my dude
Noah Miller
no one has offered 1 argument against marxism or anything i've said itt so far
Parker Gutierrez
People are dismissing Marxism because everything that has come from it has by in large been detrimental. Just because someone criticizes you doesn't mean they're natsoc, I'm moderate to center right myself and everything I've seen about Marxism and its spawn has shown me it's a fucking sham that only survives via indoctrination and serious use of special pleading.
Dylan Bell
>fbecause: 1) most of you lack the intelligence and/or determination to read serious philosophy, Only fags read >especially marxist philosophy COMMIE ALERT >and 2) most of you have deep psychological issues that stem from being aspies while growing up Most liberals have physical issues from being closeted pussies while growing up
Marxism is a pipedream that is absolutely unsustainable on any population level above 5 million.
And it only works if the population is homogenous to begin with.
You are literally trying to kill off the culture of the world, so everyone will have the same fee fees.
You are a fucking cultural terrorist, and should be labelled as such.
Jackson Rivera
>> From penis size, to intelligence, to coultural development, to the amount of sacrifice and effort invested > you are talking non-sense user, do you realize it?
Do you find this to be an invalid description of humans? I'm not sure how I am talking nonsense when describing the essence of the world
Owen Martin
>OP says people on this board lack intelligence >Is a commie Is this a joke?
Liam Young
>being a dialectical materialist >not a based Thomist
Ayy
Sebastian Gomez
>Marxist philosophy
I don't think you've ever read the Communist manifesto, much more or less anything beyond the typical reading. People like you disgust me. It's your socalist ideals that got you idiots knee deep in debt in the first place.
Hudson Hernandez
I follow Zizek. I've read a few of his works, but only shorter ones. I'm reading one of his longer books this coming term. He makes more sense now that I'm more well-rounded in theory, having read Hegel, Schiller, Marx, Nietzsche, and a other current scholars.
Kevin Anderson
Conservative men dont beat or stone women in our countries, user.
"Alt right" has very few things in common with hardcore muslims because most alt righters are atheist or agnostic. I think you are wrong about that. We actually probably have more in common with progressives
But generally I disagree with mass immigration and foreign meddling of any kind anyways so it really doesnt matter how many good or bad muslims, chinks, or spics there are
Henry Reyes
Why don't you ask Muslims to read it? Or ask them to familiarize themselves with the culture and history of each country into which they inset themselves.
At the very least, ask them to read enlightenment philosophers so they understand *why* we have draw Muhammad completions.
This is the core of the issue, isn't it?
Joseph Collins
Why would that be necessary when you have real world communist regimes demonstrating how shit that ideology works out in practice?
How do you stop ambitious lunatics like Mao and Stalin from turn your "utopia" into one of the most soul crushing states in world history?
David Bailey
>most of you lack the intelligence and/or determination to read serious philosophy, especially marxist philosophy
Yeah, that sure helped your country prosper with all of it's glorious assets and money.
... Oh wait...
Pay Denbts.
Adam Long
how has marxism failed exactly? it raised the standard of living wherever it was applied.
capitalism is destroying the earth, causing imperialistic wars and causing 2/3rds of the earth to live in horrible conditions. how has capitalism succeeded exactly and socialism failed?
Jayden Parker
I have an idea for what we can do about Marxists. Seven lives for my country!
Josiah Sanchez
Cool story, why don't you rap about it?
Nolan Richardson
You will be washed away in the coming flood.
Jaxson Nelson
Venezuela.
Joshua Clark
Have you ever considered that you read too much and it ungrounds you from practical reality? That sometimes the simplest solution is actually the best solution?
The fact that it's impossible unless people cease to be people?
Jaxson Martinez
>serious philosophy >marxist philosophy all right papadopalous that was pretty decent b8
Noah Morgan
Spengler doesn't hold up to Hayden White, Arthur Danto or any other current philosophers of history. Dude's historiography is heavily influenced by his literary style, in fact he maps civilizations essentially like a Tragic play.
Liam Robinson
Are you retarded? You haven't outlined anything worthy of an argument. You've basically said Marxism is great, read 'this guy', and said some insults. Modern leftists are fucking pathetic when it comes to argumentation.
Nathaniel Barnes
how about you stop advocating for collective redistribution of wealth until you stop fucking up the price of money, you would advocate communism you NEET leech cuckboii
pay some fucking denbts once in a while
Henry Anderson
you really expect these marxist morons to ever admit that a communist regime was "real communism"?
Luke Edwards
>I don't understand so they must be wrong and autistic Everyone here that is serious has read some form of philosophy (not your shit tier Marxist bull). The entire existentialist philosophy of the 19th century formed the backbone of Sup Forumss understanding.
G8 b8 m8, I r8 0/8
James Smith
That's because human nature cannot sustain "muh true commune" in any sense beyond a kibbutz in Palestine.
In greater context of a nation, state, or "global establishment", it cannot possibly preserve itself unless under the thumb of an ultra-totalitarian government at its helm.
National Socialism on the other hand, is superior in every other way.
Ryan Flores
>letting normies know about MPC
Why would someone do this?
Asher Taylor
This thread is literally made by a shill
Andrew Roberts
>most of you have deep psychological issues that stem from being aspies while growing up
>now read zizek
Is this satire?
Josiah Gonzalez
>Why would that be necessary when you have real world communist regimes demonstrating how shit that ideology works out in practice?
where? show me one state in 2016 that's communist?
>How do you stop ambitious lunatics like Mao and Stalin from turn your "utopia" into one of the most soul crushing states in world history?
why do you think mao and stalin are lunatics? stalin certainly was paranoid and purged a lot of people from the party, but you realize he also made the ussr into a global superpower that basically tanked wwii while raising the standard of living? mao did the same, made china from a peasant feudal country into a superpower.
personally, i am a trotskyist but even i cannot denounce that under mao and stalin china and ussr turned from feudal shitholes to superpowers
Jace Peterson
The biggest irony of this post is that a good deal of us have read more Marx than you - it is the capitalists who truly understood Kapital, not young fools who simply wish to avoid labour.
By the way - your hero Zizek got in a little bit of trouble for plagiarism recently, were you aware? Did you know that he's been reading Kevin McDonald, and trying to steal our ideas?
>On 11 July 2014, leading American weekly newsmagazine Newsweek reported that in an article published in 2006 Žižek plagiarized substantial passages from an earlier review that first appeared in the White Nationalist journal American Renaissance, a publication condemned by the Southern Poverty Law Center as the organ of a "white nationalist hate group.
Aaron Flores
They're "alt-right" because they are seriously a bunch of beta faggots looking for a leader to save them from their own delusions.
It's genuinely pathetic.
Jason Allen
Zizek is as much a philosopher as a horoscope writer is an astronomer
Samuel Nelson
>“… it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”
>implying Marx wasn't redpilled as fuck on niggers
David White
man i could annihilate this board if I wanted to bait even a little bit.
OP is probably laughing his ass off at you biting motherfuckers
>marxist philosophy in first sentence 2/10 OP that shit was unnecessary, although idk to your credit people love to beat that dead horse
Julian Lee
I was fairly popular growing up, played sports, dated some. Always had a nerdy streak. 130 iq. Didnt read most of your trash post, just wanted to brag.
Isaiah Reyes
>serious philosophy >Marxist philosophy
Good luck with the revolution Comrade. You will be knifed by the proletariat first.
Hunter Reyes
You sure corrected my record.
I sure hope we all turn into venezuela now!
Ryan Murphy
>its a pseudo intellectual communist attempts to convince us why capitalism is wrong and why we should read Marxist philosophy in a condescending manner episode.
Benjamin Nelson
>Serious Philosophy >Marxism Follow your leader and kys
Camden Young
Don't post the secret clubhouse here. No '130 IQ' teenagers allowed
Robert Clark
Oh it's the "It wasn't real communism" argument
Benjamin Cox
>especially marxist philosophy
Got that far, kill yourself kike lover.
Robert Smith
Come again? Where has socialism succeeded outside of capitalist white nations or small countries with homogenous populations? It's been implemented dozens of times and fails almost every time.
Adam Hernandez
Venezuela is much better now than it was 2 decades ago for most people, and would be better if it wasn't because of Obongo's imperialism.
Camden Martin
>Arthur Danto
Last I heard of this guy was on the Partially Examined Life podcast back when I actually was into Karl Marx. I have nothing at all to say about him other than I thought his stuff was cool.
William Campbell
sage
As if we haven't read Zizek.
The arrogance is amazing.
Read some reactionary philosophers d-bag.
Oliver Campbell
Good luck.
Leo Gonzalez
you cannot "reform" capitalism, no matter how much you "reform" it it's still exploitative in it's nature
but that's simply not true.
there is no such thing as "human nature", people's psychology and beliefs are shaped by the surroundings they grow up in
so you've read marx? you've read das kapital?
Jaxson Wilson
And thus is the fault of Marxism.
It is always someone else's fault when it fails.
Matthew Williams
Who would Hegel vote for? Who would Nietzsche vote for?
>we all know the real answer
Stick a fork in leftwing intellectuals, they're just LARPers at this point