Socialism doesn't work

>socialism doesn't work

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where did it work?

>fascism works

Poland dick work

> where did it work?

>it hasn't been tried
>all supposed attempts were FAKE socialism

Vietnam.

what country is that?
never heard of it

>Socialism is Communism

when did I say that?

>politics work

oh so you're actually retarded then, gotcha

what the fuck are you even talking about?
2 posts now and you keep insulting instead of answering a very simple question.

Vietnam is getting open to the world commerce like China

at first i thought you were confusing Socialism with Communism hence your retarded first comment, but then you doubled down by insisting that Socialism (divorced from Communism) also never worked, hence your second retarded comment.
NEver reply to me or my country ever again

It works but very inefficiently
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortage_economy

>you were confusing Socialism with Communism
>you doubled down by insisting that Socialism (divorced from Communism) also never worked
please point out where did I ever say any of those things.

pro tip, you can't because I never said those things and you're a fucking retard since you can't answer the most basic of questions.

now pls go ahead and greentext "reddit spacing" like the mongoloid that you are.

Most modern Western cunts are partially socialistic, they just don't tell that. If you want more pure capitalism example, see victorian era Britain.

Both didn't work you retarded arab.
Also why would he assume he meant communism?

>Most modern Western cunts are partially socialistic
All modern Western countries have free market, so no socialism

Partial state control of the economy does not represent in any shape a socialist economy. By that premise even the late Roman Empire was socialist

>both didn't work

ah yes, the "capitalist saudi" with free healthcare and housing project eligibility.

I have a feeling the Argentine might have been on to something if we didn't get off on the wrong foot but you are a literal nigger so im not wasting my time with you

As long as so called socialist policies are implemented at the hands of the government owned by oligarchs it’s not socialism. So shut the fuck up.

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You are supposed to post a pic that disproves your greentext, retard
Brainlet wojacks are not an argument

Soviet Union. Soviet Union was superior to modern day Russia by every messurable metric

they make greentext posts more amusing

>with free healthcare and housing project eligibility.
Oh so you are a retard that doesn't know what socialism is.

Youre not really setting the bar high

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Inb4 some autistic posters in this thread to tell me that the Nordic Model is socialism

Socialism doesn't work. Marxism doesn't work. Communism doesn't work.

Free market capitalism works.

Nordic Model is socialism

What's socialism about it? Nordic countries has some of the most freest economies and fewest regulation. Higher taxes and social progarms doesn't mean socialism

I think he's trying to troll you but just making himself look retarded in the process.

>if we didn't get off on the wrong foot
that's not what happened.
I asked a very simple question and you chimped out like a fucking mongoloid.

how many times has the Soviet Union collapsed?
and how many times has modern day Russia collapsed?

Socialism is a product of modernity that has failed, only a few nostalgic fanatics believe in that garbage. Modernity is already past, and socialism, in any of its variants, is today an obsolete and reactionary ideology.

Nowadays what is fashionable is extreme individualism, feminine supremacism, ecologism, animalism and cosmopolitanism. They will also fail and European civilization will resurface again.

Pasamos y pasaremos.

>It's another episode of lefty/pol/ circle jerking

Pretty much this. Not relevant but do you guys have inheritance tax too or is that just an American thing?

What does that have to do with the means of production?

youtube.com/watch?v=M48Nmmyl2nA

I think many countires have it including us, but it''s been under a lot of criticism lately

Well that is the point. Do you want to compare a communist Russia with the USA? Would not make sense. Comparing a communist Russia to a non communist Russia only makes sense

And baltic countries are doing better today than they did under communism. What's your point?

I can see why. It's practically grave robbing. I'd much rather deal with income tax and be able to give my stuff to my kids and grandkids rather than having to give a quarter of my stuff to the government after I die.

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Why not? Comparing different economic models is not valid?

Any philosophy that comes from Germany is a threat to the civilized world.

>Socialism is a product of modernity
lmao @ 15yo online neo-nazis and their pseudo-intellectual non-sense

*Ideology

Based carlismo.

My great-grandfather died in bed with his cross on his chest and his red beret on his head, proudly, with a clear conscience after having shot more than twenty communists on the paredón.

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Your great grandfather is a hero

>neo-nazis

Wat the hell, Nazism is also a product of the decadent and ugly modernity.

If it works, why isn't your flag entirely red?

Your great-grandfather was a good man. Now he is next to Our Lord in Heaven praying for mankind.

>European civilization will resurface again
What civilization are these other things from if not European civilization? What's European civilization to you?

Only if it is paired with chinese characteristics

socialism cannot work with human beings, only with robots

No, they only drag the quality of this board further down the shitter

It's the best of Roman empire, Greek civilization and Christianity

What's that?

pretty sure you don't need to pilgrimage to a major city in modern day russia just to buy toilet paper

Philosophy, language (some countries), architecture.

The maxim of classical wisdom, from Homer to Aristotle. The Roman law. The chivalry code, the aristocracy. Christ defecating in the anthropomorphic God of the Semites. Anti-Islam, anti-communism.

>greeks
>cuckianity
wrong

He's right tho. Western Civilziation is pretty much Greek Philosophy, he Roman Empire and the Catholic Church.

I wanted just post a mutt but I assume that not all American poster behave like a neanderthal

We had it up until a few years ago. The election in 2013 resulted in a government that repealed the inheritance tax.

The Finn is right, we are not socialist countries. We are wealthy because our markets are very free.

>I'd much rather deal with income tax and be able to give my stuff to my kids and grandkids rather than having to give a quarter of my stuff to the government after I die.
Why? Give it to them when you're alive. Let your children work their way to wealth and success like you did.

Are you trying to LARP as a Sup Forumstard?because you are pretty bad in this

Inheritance is a big part of a developing society. You can't have a wealthy society without inheritance, because without inheritance everyone has to start from zero.

It may not be fair, but it is why normal people become wealthier over generations.

>Lack of free market is socialism

>Philosophy
We still have philosophy and, as a discipline, it's leaps and bounds ahead of where it was 2000 years ago because we built upon it ever since. European philosophy in specific is especially dominant in the world.
>language (some countries)
We still have language and it's in a better state than ever before given the entire world is bound to learn it.
>architecture
You can see European architecture all over the world, from Greco-Roman styles all the way to more modern styles that originated in Europe.
>The maxim of classical wisdom, from Homer to Aristotle
What classical wisdom of Homer and Aristotle was forgotten in modern times? Everything they talked about was picked up and improved upon by their successors.
>The Roman law
Roman law inspired most legal systems in the modern world and even non-Europeans are drawing from it nowadays.
>The chivalry code
There was no single chivalry code and any values the chivalric ideal exalts are still appreciated to this day.
>the aristocracy
That's not a European invention. In any case, there's little justification for hereditary social roles and therefore little reason to miss aristocracy.
>Christ defecating in the anthropomorphic God of the Semites
I'll need some elaboration on that.
>Anti-Islam
Anti-Christianity used to be a defining element of ancient times, which you consider being part of European civilization.
>anti-communism
Communist ideas were articulated by Greco-Roman philosophers and you can read modern communists giving them credit for it.

I don't see how European civilization disappeared and needs to make a comeback. European cultures are global hegemons. You can't find a corner in the world not permeated by them. Beyond the fact that 6 of the 7 countries of the G7 are European and that 4 of the 5 permanent security council members are European, almost every human being has European culture expressed in their language, values, and tastes.

No. Controlling ALL the means of production is socialism.

>You can't have a wealthy society without inheritance, because without inheritance everyone has to start from zero.
Got anything to back up that claim with?
>without inheritance everyone has to start from zero.
And why would that be a bad thing? Equal opportunity is what I hear people say is what's so awesome about capitalism

>Philosophy: stupid people saying stupid shit, progressive shit to be more exact
>Language: Improve at some point, majority don't know properly their own language
>Architecture:Huge weird blocks. I can use Brazil capital as example of awful modern architecture

>Philosophy: stupid people saying stupid shit, progressive shit to be more exact
Philosophical disagreements and bad philosophy are as old as philosophy itself. Complaining about modern philosophy is a bit like complaining about modern music when there's never been as much depth and breadth in the available literature. There's no "progressivist" consensus among philosophers (or among anyone really because progressivism isn't an ideology in and of itself) and you can find proponents and opponents for any position in intellectual debates.
>Language: Improve at some point, majority don't know properly their own language
There's always been vernacular language (see classical Latin and vulgar Latin). What you read from ancient times was written down by learned men and isn't representatives of what common folk talked about back then and how common folk talked back then.
>Architecture:Huge weird blocks. I can use Brazil capital as example of awful modern architecture
There's no single "modern" architecture like there's no single "modern" art. There are different styles and you just so happen to dislike one of them. There's surely modern architecture you like, even if you don't realize it counts as modern architecture.

Fucking based leaf education.

> An ideology which, at its core, goes against human nature works. Let's try it for a millionth time, it'll work out just fine this time, I swear

t.

Socialism is a invention of the Jew to rob you of your riches.

Ignore that shit. Look at how fucking amazing life is in America without it. You are paying outta your ass for healthcare and college to preserve YOUR FREEDOM from the Jews, and to get the HIGHEST QUALITY.

Please ignore this communist bullshit and keep taking on debts and loans to get through life.

>socialism and communism are economic systems

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and the answer?
that's why it crashed without survivors?

grug say planned economy work
>soviets collapse trying to wave dicks with America
UNG NOT REAL NOT REAL

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Soviet Union

Planned economies work SOMETIMES and it would be silly to assume that Russia would have been better off under a continuation of their backwards system under the tsar than they were with the Gotta Git Gud industrialisation and militarisation under Stalin.

Look buddy, you clearly don't understand how politics work. Either a system works all the time or it works ZERO prcent of the time. A mittle ground between them, that's straight up retardation to suggest

it doesn't matter which political system is better when you keep people in fear of death permanently

you know it collapsed, right?

Literally goes against the divine aristocratic principle of nature you satanist commie

Care to give a proper argument instead of some badly edited picture?

You call this a proper argument?

True but Sup Forums will never admit it.

I gave you a reason and you didn't even refute it. I'm always open to new ideas

Refute what? That socialism goes against human nature? That's not a reason. You need to justify a statement like that. It doesn't contain any information