Is it still possible Sup Forums?

Is it still possible Sup Forums?

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Someone screamed Pepe at a Hillary Rally, anything is possible.

>Is it still possible Sup Forums?
No.

we can all dream

Oregon? Haha, no.

>PA
>Not Red
you fucked up Juan

www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/polls-clinton-ahead-trump-midwest-battlegrounds-n626541
I would like to believe, but since the DNC things have changed a lot.

I live in Oregon. I see Trump signs on the back of cars, and lawns when I drive to work, accompanied by people I know openly support Trump.

Fuck you on about.

Do you realize world libcuck capital Portland pretty much decides the election? Same with IL, MO, VA and PA, the entire states might be red but all it takes is a city infested with millions of dindus and shitlibs to flip it into perma-blue strongholds.

what are you about ive seen Bernie signs everywhere and seen one trump sign out east

You are mistaken. The meme city is not all of Oregon.

dumpin my odds

only 1 in 6 scenarios sees Trump winning.

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its cut off but the bottom map is
>optimistic projection

You know that Trump has a chance here in Michigan right? He has an advantage here and in PA because Clinton screwed us. Also, why do you assume Virginia will be blue just because Kaine is on the ticket?

These are odds from 2 betting houses and nate silver.

Michigan, at the current poll trend will not go red.

The problem with rust belt is , the black vote will dilute the labor vote. and that labor is shrinking because most have moved out over the years.

So why are conservative chances so low? What of the consistent rhythm of the bipartisan flip-flop every few years? Have things really changed so much in eight years?

This election is historic, different, but both candidates are seemingly unpopular.

So where is this idea that the right has such low odds this election coming from?

She has a demonstrated polling lead in VA

>nate silveY
You realize once he saw Trump winning, he changed his methods. About a month ago, PA,Michigan,Nevada,NH,Iowa were all colored red on his prediction map. Now he expects us to believe Trump just dropped, also he is irrelevant. He has photos of him and Clinton on his FB account. And Trump is scheduling Trips to inner city Michigan and PA in September.

Blue wall plus a decent lead in key swing states

Oversample Democrats.

The blue wall doesn't exist for Clinton. She is such a shitty candidate that Connecticut and Maine are in play. She's the most hated person in America. She makes Obama look like a saint. Union workers and anyone with a brain won't vote for her.

>but both candidates are seemingly unpopular.
and the election has been run on identity politics the whole fucking way.

Hillary gets to run on women card and pull the race card because the Clinton popularity with the black vote.

Trump is running on the angry white man card. It would go far except for the white guilt vote. This whole election is for fuckign show.

Its a repeat of the 2008 election .

Run SJW approved meme candidate.
Then run business as usual.

Political Correctness is just marketing, the end game is electing corrupt people and rigging the system by just having the put on the "victim" mask.

They're voting on feels, not issues.

It's not Nate Silver changing the map, it's a statistical model. You plug in the numbers (polls) and it spits out the results. You're free to check out the methodology.

And an election poll is a survey of people's attitudes, so sampling based on attitude would be pants on head retarded.

The goal is to come up with a sample that is demographically representative (age, gender, race, income). If there are more Dems in the sample, maybe its because there are more Dems in the target population?

Only if you go out and shill for the don like based nigel told you to

Clinton doesn't even have 1/10th of the support Obama did. The media plays her up. Trump is up by at least 10 points nationwide. Democrats don't like her, and hundreds of thousands changed party affiliation for Trup. The Democrats already lose PA and Michigan this election cycle. They're on full damage control at the moment. After the Dems lose this election, they will need to rebuild their own party.

Yes, don't believe the crooked polls, they cooked them for Clinton back in 1996 too to kill enthusiasm for Dole

The latest CT poll has her with more than a 10 point lead. Maine is barely in play, he may get one of the district votes but getting the whole state is unlikely

>Trump is up by at least 10 points nationwide

wut

>Oregon
>Voting Trump

I don't think you know how just 3/4 cities pretty much control the voting record of this state

Accurate. Add NH and we're good. Clinton doesn't have a leg to stand on. Disastrous election for the Democrats.

>Trump is up by at least 10 points nationwide

Well now you're clearly just delusional. Trump's got a chance but if he wins it's gonna be close. Do you really think the national polls are off my 17% in Trump's favor?

Margins of error are symmetrical by the way, meaning they're just as likely to be off by 17% in Clintons favor (which is also ridiculous)

Why are you shilling? Even if you are a Democrat. there is no reason to support Clinton. Obama is deep down a good man. Clinton is an evil woman. I voted Dem in 2000 and 2004, but there isn't a reason to support them anymore.

>va
>blue
when will this meme die?

as an Idahoan, i regret to inform you that if you don't live in portland, you are sorta just in 'greater idaho'

These are what the polls say. If facts are shilling then I'm owed some money

Michigan here

We are going red

Screencap this

Nobody here actually supports hillary and isn't openly mocked

Most Hillary voters don't openly support her. They're just voting Hillary to save America from the Trump/Putin disaster.

Hey fellow Michigan bro. Trump has the union vote, and the Michigan GOP is united. On Top of that, Trump is going to tour our inner cities. Clinton can't even show her face in our state anymore. She fucked us over. Now the rustbelt will fuck her over.

Poetic.

The same can be said for Trumpo supporters. They are openly afraid to support him for ridicule. Silent majority.

It's more than possible. It's Happening son!

>Silent majority
>35% of population
>majority
The poll numbers don't lie no matter how much Trump-owned websites claim they do. That's the same myth Mitt Romney was selling in '12.

>Trump/Putin disaster.
nice meme kid

it is very obvious to me that hillary is manipulating the polls, why is the right putting up with this? are they fucking stupid?

no, but feel free to still build the wall, carlos.

i think they polls are being manipulated. i think they are lying.

we get it your trolling
(you)

>Former head of the CIA literally said Trump is a puppet of Putin
>Trump being supported by Russian "investors"
>Russian hackers attacking Trump's enemies
>Trump openly admiring Putin

Yeah nothing to see here, Mr.Putin... nothing at all.

>Trump supporters are to ashamed to admit they're gonna vote for him
>Look at those crowds, there's so much enthusiasm behind him!

Pick 1

i want to believe

no i'm serious, i think the polls are being manipulated. i think there is dishonesty and conspiracy at the highest levels.

>poll numbers don't lie
They poll "likely voters", and likely voters are not the Trump support base. He has a large following from people who are not being polled or tracked as they either rarely vote or never have at all.

See also: Brexit.

I'd say Colorado or Michigan is a more likely flip. We're going to have a massive turnout advantage, even in the Democratic primary Sanders was able to consistently compete with her despite the fact that he usually polled a good 15 points below her, and Sanders won Michigan even though he was polling 20 points below her, indicating that her "get out the vote" game there is shit and her supporters aren't engaged.

In 2016 why would any black person vote Democrat? Inner cities are getting worse, Crime,Schools, and Dems don't care about them. Dems make a promise,black people elect them, and then the Dem doesn't live up to their promises.

>Add NH and we're good.

Then pray for NY to turn red as the icing on the cake.

>sees Colorado is blue
>scrolls
>all blue

Umm wtf
You retards, Colorado is gonna be setting the red precedent

My entire family is voting Trump.If someone asked me who I will vote for, I just say I'm not voting because I don't like either candidate. Most people are like that even though they support him. And most Americans not in cities aren't polled.

>Dems make a promise,black people elect them, and then the Dem doesn't live up to their promises.

Gee, it's almost like niggers are scientifically retarded... wouldn't that be revealing?

Literally the same thing Romneyfags said last time. We go over this same bullshit every election. Same results, the polls were right again.

Safety in numbers, m8. If I said I was voting for Trump on my community college campus without anyone to back me up, all the liberals would try and swarm me and go full AIDS Skrillex.

But the situation is reversed at a rally full of like minded people so long as the protesters stay outside.

>PA, NY, MI, WI, IL, CO, NM, CA, WA, VA, NH, ME, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD
>blue

Trump will get well over 270 in the electoral college, but NY will remain blue for the time being. If Trump does a good job in his first time, it isn't out of the question in 2020. But that is still a long way away.

if hillary has such a commanding lead, why doesn't she have a press conference?

>0.05 Good Goy Points have been deposited into your account

>dude weed lmao: the state
>red
choose only one, but choose carefully

Are you comparing a populist wildcard to a generic neocon like romney who has more in common with hillary anyway? Get the fuck out ctr. Hillary's "vote for me im not the other guy" sounds an awful lot like romney in 2012 you cant win an election like that

>Same results, the polls were right again.

Win by false prophecy.

Keep pushing a lie hard enough (when it's completely false at first), and it can eventually come true through sheer brute force (entirely possible when you have every media station in your back pocket).

This is classic soviet propaganda tactics. Brexit was an anomaly and was probably due to a freak chance of massive rainstorm in London, and Scottish pigfuckers thinking they weren't really "British" and didn't have to care that much.

Romney did better in the election than Trump will. But then again Romney had experience, education, an even temper, and control over his emotions. Plus a plan, and a realistic vision for the country. Turns out people don't like unhinged wildcards for president.

One flaw with the CTR shills are they never actually give legitimate reasons to vote for Clinton. Then when you ask them about Clinton being a lying,greedy,criminal, they change the subject.

>Romney did better in the election than Trump will
CTR pls Trump got way more primary votes and has the working class support that romney loss which is what cost him the election

I will put my heart and soul into memeing trump to the White House, but after this election cycle we have to come up with a plan to meme the fuck out of this blue wall it's just too fucking much.

>Keep pushing a lie hard enough (when it's completely false at first), and it can eventually come true through sheer brute force (entirely possible when you have every media station in your back pocket).
>This is classic soviet propaganda tactics

Especially since Trump is Russia's candidate. If the paid Russian Trump supporters keep pushing the myth that he has a chance they think it might work. But Russians don't understand American politics. Trump has no chance. The polls prove it. The election results will prove it.

Plus Trump has the rustbelt locked down tight.

>primaries
And Romney got wider general election support and more of the popular vote. Still lost. Trump will just lose harder. Losing is all he does.

>people dont like wildcards for their president

I'm seriously expecting NJ to go red this year.

I'm no pollster, but if you look at the primary turnouts, almost every county had more Repubs than Dems show up.

Even my liberal NY cousin loves Trump, and this fucker went to college like 20 times in random liberal degrees and argued with me about Obama.

>Reagan
>wildcard
Literally the definition of an establishment candidate. Towed the party line like a robot following its programming to the letter. Also established the policies of George W. Bush, literally the same policies.

Reminds me of this
youtube.com/watch?v=CsxXty6vEBA

Everyone loves Trump. The GOP is now united, he has a double digit lead with independents, and he has taken a considerable share of Democrats. Looking good.

Polls dont mean shit. Most people dont have fucking landlines in 2016. Having massive primary turnout means he will get alot more votes in the GE tham romney and hilldog will get fewer votes than obama as she loses the youth vote because of her corporate ties

>I know we made a big mistake last time but...
>Things are slightly different so lets do it the exact same way again and hope it works.

He was an actor

Northern Virginia is a clusterfuck, and there are plenty of libtards and HillShills over here. I hope the rest of the state has at least some sense left, otherwise we're going blue.
The inner-city nogs only want gibsmedats, which the democrats provide. There have been multiple studies on this: blacks have a huge problem with acting for immediate gain. In one study, black kids were asked if they wanted a candy bar then, or two a week later. Almost all of them took it right away. The Democrats only have to promise mediocre gibs, and they get 13% of the population voting mindlessly every election. It's shit.

There are more red states turning blue than the reverse

>wildcard
>incumbent GOP establishment charismatic talking head
kek

>wisconsin still blue after the Milwaukee shitstorm
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Romney did better than Trump

Ah, didn't know Romney broke Trump's record setting primary turnout!

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>slightly different
>the democrat is a sickly women with skeletons in her closet as opposed to being a charismatic "progressive" black man
>the republican is a high energy populist with high turnout as opposed to a tired neocon with lower turnout than fucking mccain
A

There are more Republicans in Wisconsin. Clinton is losing blue states left and right.

Again, same myths the Romneyfags said last time. Same myths every two years during elections.
>Dey don't pull cuntry folk
>Dey don't pull landlines
>Dey oversample Dems
Same myths every time. Polls are right every time. Eventually you have to stop believing your own bullshit when it's wrong so consistently. You can google these same myths from '12, '08, and every election year. Same shit once again. We'll hear these same myths again in '20 when the Dem candidate is winning again.

Why would anyone take the candy bar a week later? Was there any incentive to do so?

I'm just going to assume you're trolling and aren't actually that uneducated.

even grandmas and children have iphones now. Dont underestimate 4 years of change

No, they would get two candy bars if they waited a week, but, lacking self-control, intelligence, or both, they took only one immediately.

Most polls do cell and landline now anyway

>cell
Proofs?

ok so you believe that a candidate who couldn't fill an arena with supports (kicked out half the convention because of protests) and hand to bring in actors; is some how magically getting all this support? you say there is no poll manipulation at all? no one likes this bitch.