Capitalism works

>capitalism works

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"Let's pick out one conveniently egregious and inefficient example out of a wonderland of modernity and convenience, and then throw out the entire system based on a single anecdotal example!"

The Dutch can handle freedom, can they?

*can't handle

Capitalism doesnt mean copyright laws
Thats the invention of the state
kys

>he believes it's only one exemple
Remember the shkreli guy ?
Remember your whole health system ?

>one example

Who is Martin Shkreli?
What is the entire American "health""care" system?

Actually, the more accurate term is American disease-exploitation system.

Just because you turned your flag sideways doesn't mean you're right.

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Opgekankerd uit Nederland waardeloze VMBO'er. In plaats van op Sup Forums te zitten kan je beter je uitkering gaan claimen

>company charges bullshit rate for product
>company gets dragged through the mud in the mainstream media
>market corrects itself

Voilà.

>Who is Martin Shkreli?
A fucking hero. If you think he's some evil guy who just cranked up the price of the drug to earn a lot of money, you're wrong and a dumbass who has been drinking the leftist kool-aid.

>Cost of an epipen in Australia: $38 dollarydoos for a twin pack
Seriously yanks, get your shit together.

> FDA grants monopoly status on a delivery device whose patent already expired
> clearly this is the fault of capitalism and the free market

>corrupt democrats work

>inb4 Virgin

Kek and this

its a lifesaving product, you literally can prevent death with it

of course its going to be expensive

>socialism works

Zo jammer dat nederland zo dom is

Waarschijnlijk heeft ie al wel een wajong

Leeftijd < 27 = geen uitkering dacht ik

>this guy

Water is a lifesaving product you can prevent death with, let's make it 1000 euros a litre for you.

I'm sorry, sometimes we forget to cut off the internet connections of the unemployed.

A bullet is a lifesaving product.

Remind me again how much they cost?

capitalism =/= free market

>Remember the shkreli guy ?

lel, spot the bluepilled lefty cuck

>Remember your whole health system ?

Yes, and I also remember the rest of the world piggybacking and FREELOADING off of innovations made possible only by our health system.

>Ever since a major reform of the health care system in 2006, the Dutch system received more points in the Index each year. According to the Health Consumer Powerhouse, the Netherlands has 'a chaos system', meaning patients have a great degree of freedom from where to buy their health insurance, to where they get their healthcare service. But the difference between the Netherlands and other countries is that the chaos is managed. Healthcare decisions are being made in a dialogue between the patients and healthcare professionals.

>In 2015 the Netherlands maintained its number one position at the top of the annual Euro health consumer index, which compares healthcare systems in Europe, scoring 916 of a maximum 1,000 points. The Netherlands has been in the top three countries in every report they have published since 2005. On 48 indicators such as patient rights and information, accessibility, prevention and outcomes, the Netherlands secured its top position among 37 European countries for the fifth year in a row.[6] The Netherlands was also ranked first in a study comparing the health care systems of the United States, Australia, Canada, Germany and New Zealand

You were saying?

About 20 eurocents for lead .22s.. About three fiddy for .50BMG FMJ

Hell yeah, the Dutch could really handle freedom. They are more free than you Americans. Sup Forums is the only free speech place you got left. Try saying shit like you do here on Sup Forums on other social networks like twitter, disqus and facebook will get you censored straight away. And those companies are fully american.

The last time you guys paraded for free speech was the 60's and look how far sitting behind your screen here and talking smack about it has gotten you, in real life nothing.

Nah... Don't talk about freedom kek, you have non left and you are letting your government fuck up for us euros as well with the TPP, TISA and other fucked up corporate lobbied "trade agreements".

Fuck you, you ignorant fuck, get your fat ass out of your chair and DO SOMETHING useful than trolling Sup Forums. And you fucking know I'm right!

I think you mean PATENTS and COPYRIGHT LAW

Things that don't exist in a free market.

Special government privileges are not the free market.

With all the wee bitey things that go bump in the night down under, they should be giving them away in ten packs.

Explain why he's wrong

Fuck off kike. They haven't explained why they're right.

That you guys are only able to have such a utopian healthcare system because you get to leech off of the medical innovations that have arisen out of our system. If not for our system, think of all the medicines, instruments, techniques, etc., which would not be available in your hospitals. Your country and the entire rest of the world are freeloading off of the medical system that you are mocking.

Shkreli took a low-priced drug, bought it and jacked the price.

His intentions are to use that money to pay back the investment and do more research and development. Any corporate fuck would do the same as long as he really wants a long term return on investment, and any corporate fuck wants that, all day, every day.

He is not a part of any big corporate company or investment fund, as far as I know he is a selfmade man. Seeing a golden opportunity like he did and not take it would be dumber, and I feel (after seeing his talks on his channel talking about this subject) that he is a more noble dude than any of the other alternatives, cause they would have done exactly the same thing that he did, but probably even worse if take a look at some of these funds track record.

Your whole fucking system is faulty as fuck, so if ANY guy sees an opportunity like this, they would take it. Cause the system allows it, blame your fucked up system, not the players. The system is created cause the majority of you yanks just sit in front of your screens passiv until you die, not doing shit about the fucked up system you let the lobbyist create with bought/payed off politicians.

It's thanks to your lazy asses that this shit keeps going on, it's not cause of a small time player like Shkreli. And he is SMALL, if not fucking tiny considering the rest of the big pharma players.

Don't be a ignorant fuck, engage more that sitting in front of a fucking screen eating msm bias all that, every day.

Eat shit you ignorant fuck, you don't know SHIT about how it's here in the euros other than the shit you choose to belive served by the MSM. Come have a look, I have a spare room and I'll take you down to our universities health research and show you around, I'll even show you public records showing the fucking billions of euros that our gov. puts into euro-research. And btw, how many american has won the noble prize in medicine ? Dumb fuck.

>waaaahhhh my ability to cheat nature is more expensive now

Fuck you and die of your generic defect

If you need an epipen your already useless

>Epi vial
>Posts ampule
>Thinking people know how to draw drugs from an ampule in the middle of a severe allergic reaction
>Not understanding the Epi-Pen is a device

rage/10

>Government regulations prevent competitors

Yeah capitalism is fucking awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A socialist system would be far better and there would never be shortages of anything!

And here: youtube.com/watch?v=NK0Y9j_CGgM

Your smart scientists are imports, so you guys import the smart people cause you guys have fucked up your educational system decades ago.
You talk shit, just like your politicians do, go do something useful to get your country back on track.

This

>government

m8, America is a corporatocracy.

Socialism implies a government takes control of resources for the benefit of the entire population (or so they claim). In America, the government takes control of resources for their own benefit.

You should read some books.

>have product
>have father in congress
>donate millions to Clintons
>your product becomes MANDATED BY LAW to be in every school in the US
>FDA blocks competitor's product

>Five of the world’s ten biggest pharmaceutical companies are based in the US, while the remaining five hail from Switzerland, the UK and France.

pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/featurethe-top-10-biggest-pharmaceutical-companies-of-2014-4396561/

Just proving your ignorance even more. Continue to think big about yourself and your country, you guys come out as a big-mouthed retard talking shit continuously. Please get the fuck back to grips and start fixing your country instead of talking shit, don't be a fat ignorant fuck that just let your politicians fuck every thing up for you guys and other countries as well. This have been happening for decades and takes decades to fix, and you haven't even started.

Yes, tell me more about all that great medical research coming out of Norway.

Your stupid irrelevant shit country doesn't even make the top 10 for number of research papers published per year.

As a person that has taken allergy shots my entire life I always have a adrenaline and a syringe. That's all an epi-pen is. A pre made adrenaline shot.
BTW this isn't capitalism. When the lobbyists when to government in order to lobby congress to make it mandatory, it was crony capitalism. Or crony socialism / depending on your bent.

>disqus and facebook will get you censored straight away. And those companies are fully american.
Those websites are owned by people, they can remove what ever content they want. You can still say what ever you want on the street corner but there are heavy societal consequences for it but the government cannot lock you up for it.

You need to adjust it to per capita before you try to compare papercount penis sizes fuckass. We're barely a percent of your size.
I'm not saying you're wrong about USA USA USA being the best on medical research, you probably are. Just your reasoning is whack.

You all also need to get your heads out of academia's gaping asshole the size of a big gov and realize the number of papers published and money pumped into research doesn't mean fucking shit when it's all (((academic))) circlejerking. The only thing that should be measured is actual advances/innovations made.

Communisme werkt niet aidskind, als ik al een uitkering had dan zal ik wel voor communisme in nederland zijn hondjoch.

>freedom of speech
>privately owned organizations

Please continue embarrassing yourself.

Shkreli did nothing wrong. You are too ignorant to be talking about this.

> If not for our system, think of all the medicines, instruments, techniques, etc., which would not be available in your hospitals.

I'm actually struggling to think of any recent innovations in instruments or techniques that came out of the USA.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU IGNORANT PRICE

IT'S THE FDA, TIGHT FUCKING REGULATIONS STOPPING COMPETITORS FROM ENTERING THE MARKET.

YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUAE POL IS A LIBERTARIAN BOARD YOU FUCKING DUMB ASS I BET YOU STARTED COMING TO POL WITHIN THE LAST 2 YEARS

If only it hadn't taken until they had raised their prices by 400% or whatever it is.

Isn't the idea that others would be able to administer the epipen with minimal training required

$650 seems pretty high though

>if only everything ever were perfect

Reminder that Shkreli didn't increase the price one dime to customers and only increased the cost to insurers. Hillary's scam company had to be shamed into offering vouchers.

>corporations can form monopolies because of government sponsored buisness

Because the US has a large developed funding source for all types of medical research including drugs, and new surgical techniques. Just cause you have money don't mean you're the shit. Hell I guarantee half of all doctors in the US are foreign born. Everyone knows the Saudis have money and spend a lot of it on big shiny new buildings. Nobody says or thinks that the Saudis are architects. All the buildings are designed by foreign firms.

Oh hi CTR, I see you're responding to shkreli quickly.

>massive government intervention
>capitalism

Every time

>Americans

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>no system is perfect so this kind of response time is ok

Well why don't you start to make Epipens and sell them cheaper?
That's how capitalism works, dumdum. :^)

I think you will find that's an ampoule, not a vial. Correct the meme.

Why is this only being brought up now?

Decided to look up the UK Drug Tariff price for shits and giggles

>Adrenaline (base) 300micrograms/0.3ml (1 in 1,000) solution for injection pre-filled disposable devices [EpiPen] Category C
>Price £26.45
>Approx $34.91

Damn NHS

I work in pharmaceuticals. The biggest thing that came out of the US recently IMO? Either allowing live tweeting from an FDA licensing meeting, or making Flibanserin available for prescription even after a lack of testing and some pretty shitty side effects.

Yes that's right. The big recent US contributions to pharma are questionable advertising and caving to feminist demands. I decided to leave out the questionable business practices as it's really nothing new.

Health insurance should be outlawed desu

This is awesome.

Healthcare innovation only occurs where there is more economic freedom.

USA still has a shitty government controlled system but at least there's a profit motive.

Open a molecular biology textbook
Point at a figure
Check who discovered it
80 percent chance its an American if post 1920

Answer please, how **number** of articles could provide the medical science? Could be that one research was divided on some ones?