Finland plans to give out cash to create jobs

Be right back, moving to Finland.

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Nobody wants some sweet basic income eh?

nah mate desu I do, it is a neat idea that will become essential in the near future. The only problem is that I don't want niggers to have this privilege.

Who would want inflation?

In a country where people make the laws, this idea was destroyed. No chance this will ever work. Any attempt at implementing it will ruin the country in question.

>give niggers basic income
>niggers waste it
>niggers and niglets starving
>have to give them more
how is that different than the current system in any way? it's not like any cucked country is going to just let niggers and niglets starve because big buck chuck spent all their money on crack rock

Right now I get nothing, but the nignog get's it. With basic income I get something too.

Finland has one of the highest costs to live economy in the world.

I would call it a return of my already earned money.

>Government
>Producing anything.

>pls make me into a nigger
jesus fucking christ

>duurr duerpp lets not head toward the singularity because blass and abos

cancerous train of thought you got there you faggot

Over 9000 hours in mspaint.

what?

what, singularity? didn't know I was on /x/.

Every central banker across the developed world.

I would love inflation for my wage slavery.

basic income will only work when low skill jobs are no longer needed (when automation takes over).

Eventually we could do a large basic income, because even high skilled jobs will be taken by AI.

RIP: Western civilization.

Anyone in debt

It'll work this time

t. every socialist

Crazy keynsians

I dont know how to feel about this

Canada is about to try it too

huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05/30/basic-income-canada-liberal-party-policy_n_10210380.html

He's going invest his money directly to the economy, so in certain situations it could be quite beneficial for producers of goods.

>wealth is created from nothing

Where's the money come from idiot?

I'm so going to get revenge on all the NEETs when this happens.

Money is just digits in a computer file.

This is being piloted only for ODSP and possibly OW recipients in a yet-to-be-determined county.

Reasons to work after basic income: None

>This is being piloted only for ODSP and possibly OW recipients in a yet-to-be-determined county
This place is so fucking inept and corrupt, it's astounding

>Basic income arrives
>It's enough to pay your bills plus some
>Al poor people quit their jobs at mcdonalds/grocery stores
>Grocery stores and such can't run without minimum wage employees working the register at the very least
>Civilization falls apart

or

>Basic income arrives
>It's a tiny amount
>Nobodies life truly improves
>government billions more in debt

Robots.

We don't have robots yet.

I believe in basic income, but only in the case of large scale automation.

I'm

Whos going to pay for that?

What about the jobs that are shit but have to be done - why would the guy on the right do those?

Pay more or robots.

As long as these robots don't exist or are not affordable on a wide scale yet, implementing this basic income is retarded then.

>working if you dont have to

l o l

Future generations. We take it out as debt now.

Then pay more.

Really, office jobs should be paid the least, dangerous jobs, manual labor should be paid the most.

Basic income is great idea.
Finland already has generous welfare benefits for every unemployed loser, but the system is bureaucratic and full of artificial limits that stop people from working.

for example, if you get full unemployed poor mans welfare, it is around 1000/euros month
But if you work you lose your welfare, so unless the work pays +1500e/month, it's not worth taking

now with universal basic income you can work part time without losing your benefits

and if you worry about government spending, just make the UBI level much smaller than the old welfare system was

In UAE, saudis work shit jobs like security guards and so on despite having basic income, because it's a status symbol. Islam doesn't look too kindly on lazy people.

What if paying people to do these shitty jobs becomes so expensive that people just can't afford them?

Same result, they won't be done. Nobody's going to crawl down in a sewer to unclog shit if he could have a comfortable life doing nothing instead.

Jewish values are the most important to me!

t. every plutocrat

Fuck yeah, NEET pride worldwide.

Future generation
fuck caring about it, I'm just going to leech off and let others pay for it

Then you'll end up with robots.

We're not muslims and we don't have their oil money either.

But those robots don't even exist yet, let alone are widely available and affordable.

Until they do basic income is retarded. We already went over this.

If there is a need, there is a solution.

OP, you lazy nigger. Don't go to Finland to be a lazy nigger.

Money is just digits in a computer file. Nobody pays for changing the content of the file.

Sweden is Muslim and Norway has oil money.

If I take Quran, rename it and change names and places and replace arabs with whites (although race doesn't actually mean anything in Quran), will you become a part of a new faith?

Fixed that image for you.

Or things just stop working until they revert back to a functioning model.

>Sweden is Muslim and Norway has oil money.
No and not nearly enough.

>If I take Quran, rename it and change names and places and replace arabs with whites (although race doesn't actually mean anything in Quran), will you become a part of a new faith?

No.

If they are paying more than my 1200€ NEETbux a month ,I'm moving to Helsinki

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with free time to work on personal interests instead of wage slaving, alot more time can be attributed to creating and programming these robots

Imaging programming your own robot catgirl waifu to do the house work.

Based Swiss rejected basic income 75% to 25%.

Kinda sucks that there was even 25% support.

not even close

GO ask all the central banks and the FRB of the USA which practically controls the world.

The money is literally created out of nothing you ignorant idiot.

The it is given out to banks and the population has to pay it back at interest with taxes, inflation, etc.

Dont go to finland , nothing to
See there. :DDDDDDDDD

> :D

Why are you two on Sup Forums instead of programming your robot waifus right now?

Sounds pretty smart and totally not selfish.

Be real with yourself, animal.
Basic Income will lead to complete decadence.

Because we are slaving away in our jobs.

>democracy.jpg

It's what legal fictions like corporations already do.

Can't wait till people get BTFO when It works in Finland and Canada.

The things is boys, you think you know so much about economics yet always seem to be ignorant or forget that MONEY IS LITERALLY CREATED OUT OF NOTHING, and given to banks and the government.

Then they pretend that money is actually valued something to order people to do things (gov employees) and keep the public laboring on shit that doesn't need to labored on.

To a healthy person basic income will do this

Provide just enough for a room, utilities and food. Once you don't have the stress of having to survive, most people will study, get part time jobs to pass the time, get more money for funs/night out, etc.

The goal of basic income is to provide basic needs so that people can be mentally healthy about their life decision.

I honestly don't see the problem in it when you realize what FRB is.

Seriously NEETbux is going to help people not be so stressed and probably make better choices.

People who live at their parents home and they don't "pay rent" should not be given as much though.

Someone that slacks off this much at his job would slack off not being required to have a job as well.

Not really, the job sucks all the motivation out of you. I was not like this.

you do realize that repetitive meaningless work is the killer of all motivation?

I bet you'd find some nice sounding excuses under basic income as well.

Face it lads, it won't work for the same reason communism and anarchy didn't: because it goes against human nature.

Give people money for doing nothing and they'll do nothing.

>Be right back
Yeah, probably.

not depending on your job to literally keep living would be a good thing. plus living only on basic income would probably be shit so people would still wanna work, you just know you wouldn't literally die if you couldn't work for some reason

In Finland if an adult person spends all their money on other stuff than basic necessities and starts to starve, they will lose their status as adults and get an assistant that decides your spendings.. It works exactly like kids and parents.

or maybe it didn't work before because the tech couldn't keep up and now it can? this bootlicking is disgusting

>Face it lads, it won't work for the same reason communism and anarchy didn't: because it goes against human nature.

You're a fuckind idiot.

You don't know what human nature is or shaped by.

Have you ever noticed that most people who are educated and have done research/work to contribute to society all have something in common? They all have their fucking basic needs met.

You think money is the motivation of humans? are you that simple minded?

You know what causes greed? SCARCITY, you know what causes laziness in a non mentally ill person? Realization that the time they waste in their life "working" some meaningless job is lost and nothing you can do about it because you have to "survive"

You meet the basic needs of a non mentally ill human and they'll flourish.

JUST BECAUSE YOU FUCKING WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND ARE A VAPID VOID THAT HAS 0 INTERESTS EXCEPT MONEY DOESNT MEAN EVERYONE IS.

Even if some fraction of the population did end up not doing anything, how is this idifferent than people who work jobs that contribute nothing to society directly (bankers).

We're just fucking intelligent apes and you'd realize this if you actualized yourself.

yes, basic income would not just mean give out money unregulated.
I mean a good system would be if their levels of amount based on need.

KEK, where do I read more about this?

>tfw some populist faggot will bring Basic Income to USA and I'll still have to work to support all the idiots

Moving here is one way ticket though
you come here, you spend some time, winter comes and you kill yourself

>plus living only on basic income would probably be shit so people would still wanna work, you just know you wouldn't literally die if you couldn't work for some reason

So essentially like welfare nowadays just on such a broad scale that it becomes unsustainable? Great idea.

What makes you think that now it can?

>JUST BECAUSE YOU FUCKING WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND ARE A VAPID VOID THAT HAS 0 INTERESTS EXCEPT MONEY DOESNT MEAN EVERYONE IS.
>doesn't understand that it's the other way around which is why his lala-land system would fail

Keep dreaming of free shit, buddy.

>implying finland has no spare economic capacity to cater to additional demand

>alot more time can be attributed to creating and programming these robots
what the fuck do you think wage slaving is?

I now identify as Finnish and would like my welfare checks please. If you don't give them to me and recognize my choice of identifying, then you are a racist bigot homophobe misogynistic racist...racist.

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we can't all enjoy the fruits of civilization in a more expanded and broader sense year after year without also doing the hard work to pay into it.

youll get basic income yourself and if you decide you have no other interests to do anything besides earn money since you're a simple minded person then youll do nothing and just chill.

You'll probably wont have any extra money to get anything other than necessities which is what basic income is for.

You don't put a thought into your opinions.

>whos gonna pay for it ?
Idk go ask the FRB that creates money out of nothing, how do you think we are 19 tr in debt? You think that wealth was created by labor then loaned to us?

I bet you think you understand economics.

i'm already Nee because I make music for people to enjoy, it is my way to make things to help other people enjoy their existence.

I don't have any extra money to buy drugs, go to films,clubs, restaurants, but I have all my basic needs and I live a productive life.

You hilariously biased and ignorant about human nature and the cause of human behaviors yet think you know so much.

People like you would be the ones not doing anything with their life.

oikeus.fi/oikeusapu/en/index/edunvalvonta.html

IMO prices for necessities would rise and everybody would end up having to get a job anyways to support themselves.

Give out 1000 bucks a month for free, suddenly rent is now 1700 a month instead of 700.

The second head looks like Trianon

Nope. Sorry. I'm gonna move back in with my parents and hoard neetbux. And since I'm black and livin with them you better do as I say.

Have a nice day. You can't touch me, black card.

>i'm already Nee(t?)
>I make music for people to enjoy, it is my way to make things to help other people enjoy their existence.

Yeah, this is who I'd expect to support basic income.

Who's going to do the shit jobs people only do for money?

Robots that don't exist yet will just magically pop into existence and become widely available and affordable, don't you know? :^)

>black
>has parents

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

you do realize severe inflation happens regardless because of FRB right?

What do you think causes inflation?

Literally Fractional Reserve Banking, wait you think people having more money causes inflation??

You do know the system creates money out of nothing then gives it out to banks and goverments, and then the public is responsible for it with interest even thought it will never be paid off because the amount increases every time money is deposited into a bank that does FRB

I have a degree in Astronomy but I don't work in the field because money has ruined it. It isn't about real research anymore, it is about what gets popular in publishing journals.

>I make music for people to enjoy, it is my way to make things to help other people enjoy their existence.
You're implying art has no value in society, which literally confirms you're a simpleton.

Where did you read that low tier jobs will stop paying money?

Aren't you all work work and work? I'm sure you'd still work if the pay was nothing.

because it already exists in many different forms? how do you think cars are made? it's mostly automated. japan already has made the first robots capable of serving fast food too, so the dexterity of these robots is really up to speed

WE WILL GET FREE MONEY AND WE WILL MAKE SWEDEN TO PAY FOR IT