Which superpower do you support?
Which superpower do you support?
Brandon Diaz
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Lincoln Davis
>america is bad!!!
Zachary Martinez
1. Europe
2. China
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195. ameriKKKa
Joseph Bell
yes
James Baker
EU has the most potential for good, despite some of the trashier members that plan on leaving. US has potential, but it's dormant and covered in the shit of neoconservativism right now. China really can't do any good at all until the current government is overthrown.
Easton Rogers
gee what did we do to you?
Ian Torres
Russia
Jack Hughes
Xi is OK has far as autocrats go. The guys he purged were way corrupt. His family was trashed by the communist party, so he is very keen on changing the system.
I'm waiting to see how this NK thing plays out, and if Xi will take China on a less confrontational direction with the South China Sea thing and such.
Joseph Stewart
China or usa
Alexander Mitchell
The good guys of course. EU
Josiah Lewis
>Russia
Connor Sanchez
1. us
2. china
lol eu
Jacob Flores
I wonder which...
Zachary Perez
I choose the US because It's better to eat a sugar-coated turd than a salted-one
Daniel Reyes
Why does he look lioe hes ordering an execution?
Oliver Perez
Maybe it's a foretaste for whats to come
Mason Baker
>invade nation despite having zero right or justification for doing so
>level every city and kill thousands upon thousands of civilians
>this causes dozens of islamic militia groups to start organizing
>wonder why these people won't bow to your imperialistic mass-murdering "democracy" so you kill more of them and try to forcefully implement your political system into a completely foreign culture
>repeat this process a few more times in other countries with unsurprisingly little effect, still consider it a "victory" because at least you mass-murdered those damn muslims and established control of the oil market (which was the goal from the start but americans will gladly lie through their teeth to make you believe otherwise)
>millions of them are forced to relocate to europe
>now feeling nothing but hatred for the western world due to the actions of the USA, they proceed to commit increasingly more brutal mass murders against europeans
America is a demonic mass-murdering capitalist empire built entirely on murdering people for the sake of resources. I sincerely hope that the USA gets fucking destroyed and every American who took part in ruining this world suffer a painful death, americans are nothing but greedy christian psychopaths who literally destroy everything they come in contact with.
Adrian Thomas
our greatest ally(rival)
Kayden Evans
India
James Wood
this
America corrupts everything it touches
Elijah Torres
England obviously
David Nguyen
This
Evan Lee
In the absence of an American military adventures in the Middle East, there would be a European and/or Asian power exerting military force there regardless. Americans don't really need the ME for our own oil consumption anymore. To the extent that we're still there, it's mostly to control the flow of oil to our allies and trade partners.
Assume the trend of American isolationism continues. How do you envision a hypothetical EU or Asian superpower acting in the Middle East? Not intervening militarily to keep the spice flowing? Calling the Arabs and Iranians on the phone and asking very very very nicely? What about when the proxy war between the Iranians and Saudis becomes a full-scale open war? What about when either side starts mining the Strait of Hormuz, the Asians wont send naval vessels to keep the oil tankers safe, and keep their lights on at home?
Thomas Moore
The first image and the last image is the same thing...
Elijah Gonzalez
cut out the 2020 part because the us is allowed to export oil now
Landon Morales
Ah come on now that's all in the past.
We mean no harm.
Aaron Miller
China
Samuel Garcia
Agreed. It's truly the Great Satan and the sooner it's neutered the sooner we will live in a harmonious world.
Aaron Cooper
I actually agree 100% with the D*ne on this one.
Thomas Bennett
What about the British, French, and Soviets who did this before us?
Nolan Walker
Post the real flags
Mason Barnes
The only correct answer
James Moore
>whataboutism
Gavin Gutierrez
>evil petrodollar empire
>evil communist empire
>based enlightened union of freedom and democracy
hard choices...
Ryder Rivera
foreshadowing
Grayson Jackson
Europeans wrote the book on invading nations for the sake of extracting their resources. And not too long ago either
Dominic Sanders
Retards or human right abusers or leftist cucks. I'd say EU. At least they don't fuck with people of color.
Kevin Harris
Jaxon Cox
>evil petrodollar empire
>evil communist empire
you know neither of those statements are really true
Dylan Watson
all of this but unironically
Caleb Davis
yeah china isn't totally commie after all
Henry Anderson
us
Justin Jones
>that pic
god I wish
Eli Wilson
EU.
Jeremiah Parker
China
Kayden Fisher
>using a clip from an American video game to illustrate your point
oh the ironing
Blake Green
China for the long-term
EU isn’t a superpower
USA in the short-term
Carson Taylor
Basically this
Iraq was a mistake
2000 election was a mistake
Every president who loses the popular vote is a mistake
We REELECTED Bush for heavens saks. Let that sink in before you doubt Trump 2020.
Grayson Barnes
>Libya
Josiah Foster
>evil communist empire
Soviet Union and communism died long ago, user
William Kelly
The poorupean poonion isn't a superpower
James Smith
>Superpower
Technically a superpower is a country who can act and have effective military capabilities globally.
China has yet to reach this status.
The EU has some global reach.
The US has spent the past 73 years setting up the world so it can have effective military capabilities globally.
Thomas Parker
[Citations needed]
Camden Perez
India, the true superpower of the world
Owen Green
>America is good
Christopher Gonzalez
Only the Celestial Kingdom can save the world from D*nald Tr*mp.
Owen Robinson
>a fundamental characteristic that is consistent with all definitions of a superpower is a nation or state that has mastered the seven dimensions of state power: geography, population, economy, resources, military, diplomacy and national identity.
> "a superpower must be able to conduct a global strategy including the possibility of destroying the world; to command vast economic potential and influence; and to present a universal ideology"
> "A superpower must be able to project its power, soft and hard, globally."
China has yet to reach Superpower status, as it hasnt overcome and mastered geography (still relies on the water for their 3 largest rivers to come from another country, and has neighbors they've failed to conquer or persuade to their side), population (Ageing population that even after the removal of the one child policy, birth rates still continue to drop), resources (relies heavily on imported alloys and minerals from other countries) or military (Has no power projection beyond their own backyard and their sole and only aircraft carrier is a second hand knockoff from a Ukrainian rust yard.
Europe's dream of becoming a superpower is unrealistic. They fail in terms of mastering geography, population, military and national identity. And without US protection, would fail in almost all fields due to falling back into the clusterfuck of balances and power struggles reminiscent of the 18th century.
Ryan Scott
In related news, China's economy is about to overtake the EU's...
There's a new sheriff in town, wh*tes
Brayden Jackson
Why do they all suck so much.
Juan Ramirez
Jacob Turner
russia
Juan Watson
The US clearly does not fulfill those three requirements anymore.
>present a universal ideology
Ummm what? We have no such thing nor do we even promote democracy or human rights anymore. Obama and Trump don’t care about that.
Matthew Barnes
>still relies on the water for their 3 largest rivers to come from another country
Your entire post is now discredited. Not one drop of the Yellow, Yangtze, or Pearl rivers comes from another nation.
Good try though!
Ian Nelson
Ryder Scott
CHINOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nolan Watson
>final boss
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Andrew Morales
For me, it's the Pan-Anglo superstate.
Jayden Torres
Is there any other choice, really?
Elijah Davis
Wait, isn't their per capita GDP like $8300?
Isaiah Martinez
China is a not a real superpower, at best a regional power. Why? In order to be a superpower, a nation requires four things. These are economic, military, diplomatic, and cultural strength.
As it were, China has some of 1, a little of 2, not much of 3, and absolutely jack-all of 4.
The USSR of the 1980s had military and diplomatic pull, but not economic or cultural strength. Japan in the 80s had economic strength, none of the other three categories.
At present, nobody but the United States can say it meets all four of these conditions.
Oliver Morgan
It should be around $9200 this year nominal not PPP which is obviously much higher
Gabriel White
Shareblue plz go.
Austin Murphy
I'd argue they had the latter two as well, even if weak the SU economy was decent enough to maintain the output they did have and cultural wise they did appeal to many of the third world countries who aspires to become commie-lite.
Benjamin Scott
Good. yrosmug faces carved with despair will be some sight.
Owen Gonzalez
>none of the other 3 categories
Japan in the 1980s was culturally relevant
Jaxson Walker
Nobody cared about weebshit until the late 90s.
Christopher Cruz
I really don't understand you. Do you take pleasure in Europe's decline?
Benjamin Nguyen
Yes
Leo Reed
Why?
Ethan Morales
Divide and conquer - A sound motto.
Unite and lead - A better one.
Jaxon Stewart
Not adding south Belize the most white and powerful place in the world but leave it to jew to always keep down the white
Ian Perez
China also lacks a language that's easy to speak and write. That in of itself is a major handicap.
Ethan Lopez
Vengeance
Julian Harris
>Small piece of shit
>Create artificial islands to expand borders
Persian gulf, arabian gulf, soon the belize gulf.
Jordan Ward
Mandarin is actually as easy to learn and even more information dense than English.
Written Chinese is difficult. But pinyin (latin characters) and speaking Mandarin is really easy.
In some ways they decided to stick with written Chinese to keep foreigners away. Smart move
Camden Turner
t. guy who's never tried to speak it
Those tones are tough for non-native speakers.
Michael Campbell
>2020
>Russian oil avoids Ukraine
>It goes straight through Crimea
these maps have lots of little gems.
Oliver Reyes
Well not really. It is a way to protect your industry and job market from workforce import. But considering the horrendous working conditions, who'd want to work there anyway? Same with japan, it's just an excuse to cover the fact that their language is outdated and unfit for a globalized world.
Hunter Gutierrez
China is superior to the US in that their policies are actually predictable and they don't go from negotiating a free trade agreement with you straight to putting tariffs on everyone
They are also ruled by technocrats rather than clueless populists
Owen Kelly
EU
Robert Wright
For what?
Lincoln Rivera
>who'd want to work there anyway?
plenty. they even have Chocolate City (Guangzhou)
Juan Rodriguez
I speak mandarin and write in Chinese everyday here at Georgetown university.
The tones are no more difficult than the 12 tenses I learned for Spanish.
Bentley Roberts
I’d say about half the world would be willing to work in China.
Charles Thomas
Since no Russia.
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Lincoln Sanchez
I think you greatly overestimate them.
Isaac Price
Please stop using Reddit spacing. Thank you.
Blake Martin
Lately there has been an unnervingly high number of CCP spambots on Sup Forums, so look out.
Tyler Smith
I hear this cultural argument pretty often, yet please tell me all those wars determined through cultural affinities and not pure political constraints?
Throughout the Cold War nations fought wars over ideology.
The same is true for WW2. There was nothing cultural about it.
Look at WW1, the war started because kings and queens said so. In some ways, those elites were more culturally and ethnically similar to each other than their own citizens.
So why exactly does culture matter more than an insignificant amount in geopolitics? How come only those who believe they have cultural power argue that it matters?
Nicholas Roberts
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You obsessive shill. Some people just write a certain way. Not all of us grew up in the Reddit era, you newfag.