Rate my Fraiser/Cheers revival idea

Rate my Fraiser/Cheers revival idea

>Frederick Craine lives in Boston, frequents Cheers. He's at a cross roads in life and wants to know where to go.
>Sammy wants to retire but doesn't know what to do. Frederick offers to buy the bar.
>With the bar in good hands, Sammy passes the keys to Frederick.
>Meanwhile, His Uncle Niles comes to him wanting his cousin David to move in, as he got a scholarship to BU
>David is a total Chad, more in common with Marty.
>Hijinks ensue, ending with David as the bar tender at Cheers while he goes to college
>Scenes mostly take place at Freddys apartment, with Cheers acting more as the coffee shop in Fraiser as oppose to the whole thing.
>One of Carla's daughters is a waitress
>Norm is the only returning character (he's on his same stool)
>other characters from both series can swing by for guest appearances when appropriate.

What do you think? What would you change? I feel like this marries the two shows back into one, makes for a good revival, while still staning on its own. Also with Niles and David haveing a twist on Fraiser and Marty's relationship

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Are you the Fraiserverse guy?

no but I am horrified he exists

>one of Carla's daughters is a waitress
yes please

can this gorgeous woman make frequent guest appearances?

naturally

>The real Freddie Crane in the show universe would be 28
>David Crane would be 13

Kinda falls apart right there desu

ah crud, maybe give it five more years

Show needs more diversity. Change David to Daquan the black Chad. His catch phrases are "where the white women at" and "muh dick."

if they were 33 and 18 that would work well with the buy a bar/off to college story, but five years is a long time to wait for this revival... (and 18 can't serve alcohol, can they?)

I don't know Bostons law, but most states let you serve alcohol at 18

>the reaction you get from this joke

You should try being more horrified.

Could be, and Woody was just a kid when he started there so...

let's say the dates were fudged a little and one could be around 30 and the other 18 and without anybody getting too obsessed with the math there's no problem (damn Frasier fans though, as bad a s Trekies)

Fraiser and Lilith's son goes to pleb BU?
After all the effort they went to get him into The Marbury Academy?!?!

Sorry, not buying it.

Back to the drawing board with you.

And 18 yo and a 30+ yo as roomates?

your show sucks

>Fraiser and Lilith's son goes to pleb BU?

Niles and Daphnies, plus he's a total chad, nothing like his dad, and only going on a sports scholarship

Yeah, there's no chance he's not a top 5 college graduate.

It would be funny if he went to Yale like Niles instead of Harvard like his dad.

generation gap=comedy gold my friend

And 18 year old on a sports scholarship whose going to college full time, tending bar on the side, and living with his uncle who is a grown ass man? Boooooo...

no.. just no

He could take after his mother 'stilts' and be a basketball player.

idea rated: has immense potential, if the fan bases for these two shows could be reawakened it could be HUGE, I think as an idea it is 100/10... the real trick is in the execution. Can scripts as high quality as Cheers/Fraiser be written by Hollywood still? That is the real question.

How can we work Idris Elba into this?

Or his father 'Half-Court Crane'

...

Tell me, if the Crane family were highly educated and only went after the finest things then why would they have a console and not a PC?

a 28+ year old is hardly over the hill and also I think they are cousins

Bro do you know any 33 year olds living with 18 year olds?

It's unbelievable.

not impossible, they're cousins, and the reason Niles and Daphne wanted him to live there was so Freddy could 'watch over him'

Particularly if one is an Ivy league graduate and both have wealthy parents.

Freddie should be long self sufficient and have no need for a roommate. It's only really convincing if Frasier or Niles talk him in to giving him a room whilst he attends college, an idea Freddy is hesitant about because he has nothing in common with his cousin. Gives you a bit of a Frasier/Marty dynamic.

And hence the bartending job?

this show is fucking retarded.

Pretty much. Why is Freddy buying a bar in the prime of his professional life in the first place?

I don't like the odd couple rip off. That shit is dumb make freddie and David both sherry sipping dbags like their fathers

if you're going to get hung-up on this one detail then you're just being contrarian pally

>And hence the bartending job?
the idea behind that is that Freddy takes more after his father, not so good on the people side, as appose to his cousin who is much more social. Its more of an 'earn his keep, partnership thing'

So Fraiser is an odd couple ripp off to? And you want more of the same?

I don't mind the idea of Freddie hitting some kind of professional speed bump, after all it happened to his father twice. It just needs to be implemented better.

Freddie could just have an extra room. Why wouldn't you want to help your little cuz?

Fraiser is literally in show business. He's good with people and very social.

I'm saying the interaction between fraiser and niles is the exact opposite of an odd couple rip off and that's what made it so good.

I think you're the one being a douche bag

you got anything to add to the conversation?

I'll also say I don't see Freddie ever buying a bar and don't think Cheers needs to be involved in anyway. It was part of his father's life for a time but Freddie has no reason at all to feel sentimental to it.

yes but not so much with blue collar every man that would frequent a sports bar

he would try to sneak Stacys back to that room under Freddie's nose all the time...

What kind of family (especially a wealthy family) would want their 18 year old freshman living with a grown man instead of his peers?

It doesn't make any sense.

The whole show doesn't really make any sense other than I guess it's conceivable that Freddy could buy Cheers.

The stuff with David Crane needs to be scrapped though.

Shut up faggot. He's literally discussing the topic.

Cheers would be less a sports bar and more an upscale place these days, Melvilles upstairs is probably $$$$

Did you watch Cheers? He started off similar to how he is in Frasier, then became one of the guys then it was really being around Niles that brought him back to his old pompous and pretentious ways. He can be one of the guys, even if he does get teased a bit initially.

Yep. What needs to happen is Niles and Daphne die in a plane crash. You could maybe work David living with Freddy in that way.

>That shit is dumb make freddie and David both sherry sipping dbags like their fathers

it deserves better than this, idiot

true, but I just don't see Fraiser being a good bartender at Cheers, he's be too busy trying to push fancy wines no one would want to buy

It could be N&D had 2 kids. David and a younger brother. The younger brother, still a minor, goes to live with Freddy after his parent's death.

I admit its a bit contrived, but the idea was to bring the shows together

Off the top of my head David gets kicked off of campus for doing something stupid, (maybe involving his uncle Simon) and then Daphne and Niles plead with Freddie to put him up whilst he attends university and acts as something of a mentor for David.

Perhaps Freddie is in some business/financial trouble and in exchange Niles agrees to bankroll or be a partner in some business venture he's undertaking.

why dont you go find a good gore thread to be a shithead in?

I mean Daphne and niles would be comfy for sure, but not super rich. Especially with the multiple kids they are going to have. Freddie might own various properties at this point maybe something like an attached apartment. Why wouldn't you want your child in a safe less expensive housing with family?

Oh fuck no and he never would be. I'm just saying he could be one of the guys. I missed the post where someone was suggesting Frasier could be a bartender. That's pants on head retarded and he'd be either a retired tv/radio personality, back to private practice or possibly owning a restaurant.

>I mean Daphne and niles would be comfy for sure, but not super rich

Niles settlement with Maris would have to be worth at least 7-8 figures when you consider he was getting lakeside cottages thrown in as bonuses. He's rich.

Why would Freddy even want Cheers? He has no attachment to the place.

bingo, his parents make him move in with his "more responsible, more serious" cousin, in return Niles loans him enough to buy Cheers which Sam wants to "stay in the family". Remember Sam and Freddie go way back and Sam babysat him, etc.

nah sorry, we got kind of off topic. The idea of my premise is that Freddy, while one of the guys at Cheers, takes too much after his father and thus would make a horrible bartender, even if he could run the business end well. Hence why he'd make David, his much more down to earth and charismatic cousin, the bar tender

Also rozs daughter could be worked in, she'd only be about ten years younger than Freddy

>I missed the post where someone was suggesting Frasier could be a bartender
where the fuck did this come from?

we don't know that to be fair. Assuming he stayed in Boston it's not hard to believe he'd start going to his fathers old watering hole. plus what this user said; Freddy and Samy where close, there's no reason that relationship couldn't have continued

Lose Cheers. Cheers isn't necessary and was never a part of Freddie's life. There are thousands of other business ventures that would make more sense for him to undertake. Purchasing Cheers is the sort of thing his father would try and talk him out.

He was in there regularly since birth and "Uncle Sammy" babysat him, he had his second birthday with Nanny G there, etc

have you watched the show?

You have obviously never seen the show so why don't you bow out big guy

not to mention his first word was 'Norm!'

Kids prefer consoles. More games that people played and larger marketing.

I think it could work if they go the angle that the kids went to generic state colleges, because they wanted to rebel against their parents.

Alternatively, they could go the angle where Freddy went to a state college to chase after a girl he liked and the running subplot where he got dumped and refused to transfer to a better school largely out of spite for Fraiser/Lilith telling him "I told you so".

Sam and Freddy aren't/weren't close. Are you insane? Stop pulling shitoutof your ass.

that was his "Uncle Sammy" and there is no reason a bachelor like Sam didn't stay close for all the babe attention and fun that comes with having a little partner to do stuff with

What are you talking about? Because Sam babysat him as a child when he was barely old enough to talk?

When Frasier left for Seattle how much contact do you think Lilith would let him have with a man like Sam Malone? The idea of Freddie buying Cheers is shit. Absolute shit and just seems like a desperate way to bring a link to the Cheers series rather than be true to the character that has been established through Frasier, which is where most of the target audience presumably lies.

did you ever watch Cheers...

Also if you don't like my idea I'd like to hear how you'd fix it or your own idea of a Fraiser/Cheers revival/spinoff

There is no evidence whatsoever that Freddy and Sam where close. Generally mothers tend to discourage their adolescent sons from being close with their father's (who lives 2000 miles away) rando friends.

You're r e a c h i n g

>largely out of spite

More like too much pretentious pride and not being able to admit it was a mistake. So he insists "oh no, I actually liked the school."

I think they could go the angle where Cheers got torn and replaced with a coffee house or internet cafe. Sort of as an injoke towards how the show is long dead.

Because if a network saw OP's idea, they'd probably make a huge fucking stink about making it a proper Cheers reboot instead of a Fraiser sequel series and force Freddy and his cousin to take a back seat to stand-ins for the rest of the Cheers cast.

A man like Sam Malone? Uncle Sammy? You have no understanding of the show and shouldn't be in this thread.

Aside from the episode where Freddie gets locked in the bathroom what other time did Sam spend with him?

>internet cafe

Is it set in 1998?

I love this idea OP

>Because if a network saw OP's idea, they'd probably make a huge fucking stink about making it a proper Cheers reboot instead of a Fraiser sequel series and force Freddy and his cousin to take a back seat to stand-ins for the rest of the Cheers cast.

thing is, how much of the Cheers cast would be willing to return? It would be even more contrived if they all had kids who frequent the bar; and I was already pushing it with having one of Carlas daughters be the waitress (the fact she has so many kids, it's absolutely not unrealistic for at least one of them to follow her footsteps at Cheers)

Plus I think Fraiser is fresher in peoples minds more than Cheers was

Hey Sam's a great guy but consider how strict Lilith is with his upbringing only exposing him to the most positive of intellectual pursuits and people. Why would she continue to let his father's friend (who now lived in another state) a former ball player, (which she forbade her son from playing) bartender, and notorious tomcat hang around her boy? She'd seem his as a negative influence.

I think you're the one that lacks understanding about both shows and your inability to provide reasoning and just going for strawmans proves it.

>Also if you don't like my idea I'd like to hear how you'd fix it or your own idea of a Fraiser/Cheers revival/spinoff

Fraiser spins off into True Detective 3. The Crane Boy's Mysteries just got REAL.

I also like the idea of Niles giving Freddy the money to buy Cheers as a sort of bride to have David move in

Cheers cast is pushing 70 brah

Assuming Freddy had a rebellious phase, I could see Lilith perhaps "encouraging" Freddy go to Cheers for the simple fact that Sam would keep an eye out for her, spying on her son and keeping him out of trouble. Alternatively, they meet randomly.

Say, Freddy goes into Cheers one night with a fake ID to drink (he has vague memories of the place), gets caught by Sam, who takes pity on him and gets him a job there to keep an eye out for him due to their past.

Lilith would object but I could see Sam argue to her that if he's making fake IDs and trying to sneak into bars, then better Sam have him under his watchful eye than some other less scrupulous bar.

trash my original idea, this is MUCH better

thats a good one. There are losts of ways for Sammy and Freddy to reconnect between the beginning of Fraiser and today

They were neverconnected in the first place. This is insane. Stop it.

>Aside from the episode where Freddie gets locked in the bathroom what other time did Sam spend with him?
how about all the other times Uncle Sammy babysat him WHEN HE DIDN'T GET LOCKED IN THE BATHROOM
if you don't have any understanding of the characters and the implied relationships, and have, as far as I can tell, a very limited imagination, then I am afraid you could very well be autistic, big guy.
There's other treads out there that need attention too, user.

get good writers. No SJW bullshit, and I mean it. Women writers are fine, but not for the sake of diversity, knowhatimean?

Cheers was a bar show with a bar mood. frasier was a patrician show with a patrician theme. bringing these two together has great potential, but you could easily fuck it up.

2 of my favoritest shows, btw senpai

I'm think you're getting unreasonably upset about this...

>That episode of Frasier where Niles and Lilith sleep together
>half the episode is Lilith bouncing around in a very short silk dressing gown
I always forget how good her body is.

youtube.com/watch?v=HwNHo8Q-T7g

fucking shivers.

ratzenberger was in V???

By the end of this year

>Sam
70
>Norm
69
>Cliff
70
>Carla
69
>Woody
56
>Diane
68
>Rebecca
67

He delivered mail on Hoth.

Scripts are going to make it. Tremendous idea OP

>More strawmans

Fine. Your ideas are shit.

>muh strawmans

sure they are, user, sure they are, but your attempts to derail this thread were weak and obvious